Adam Carolla Rails Against Occupy Members: "....Self-Entitled Monsters’"

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You're a mysterious man, Something Wicked.

First you say this:

OWS has been a laughable mess as predicted.

US Democrats may soon lose the White House and Senate.

Union pensions are finally being identified as having a major role in many of the US' fiscal problems.

European social collectivism is being crushed for its misguided views on human nature.

AGW support is crumbling throughout the world.

Free market capitalism is bringing billions of people up from poverty and into modern lifestyles.


Ah, it sure is a bad time to be a lefty in this world. You guys may want to reevaluate how you look at the world and life, because your current views are just going to further embarrass you in the near future. Then again, continue to maintain your envy filled ideologies, which always blindly sides with a perceived "underdog." I enjoy looking down upon the... less enlightened.

Then you say this:

Also, much of Europe's real growth has been mainly centered in Germany, due to it's premiere education standards, relatively reasonable fiscal practices, and elite manufacturing base. Much of southern Europe does not have such things, and currency traders are calling "bullshit" on their debt.

Let's examine those.

Taxation

No income tax is charged on the basic allowance, which is €8,004 for unmarried persons and €16,008 for jointly assessed married couples. Beyond this threshold, the marginal tax rate increases linearly from 14% to 24% for a taxable income of €13,469 (€26,938 for married couples). In the subsequent interval up to a taxable income of €52,881 (€105,762 for married couples), the marginal tax rate increases linearly from 24% to 42%. The last change of rates occurs at a taxable income of €250,730 (€501,460 for married couples) when the marginal tax rate jumps from 42% to 45%. The course of the marginal tax rate and the resulting average tax rate are depicted in the graph to the right.


Reaction to the financial crisis

BERLIN — Germany, Europe's economic engine, is back in gear after a painful recession, as foreign customers snap up cars and industrial machinery and the country reaps the benefits of stimulus spending that helped keep the motor running at home during the downturn.
In particular, economists point to government support for keeping workers on the job with shorter hours instead of laying them off — a measure that kept more money in people's pockets and prevented a growth-killing spike in unemployment.

Still, there's general agreement that the way to recovery was paved in part by government spending,

That included two stimulus packages worth some euro80 billion ($104 billion), featuring infrastructure spending on roads, schools and other projects that is still keeping builders busy and a now-expired car-scrapping bonus.

Holy shit, government intervention helped out.



Healthcare

Germany has the world's oldest universal health care system, with origins dating back to Otto von Bismarck's Health Insurance Act of 1883.[66] As mandatory health insurance, it originally applied only to low-income workers and certain government employees, but has gradually expanded to cover the great majority of the population.[67] The system is decentralized with private practice physicians providing ambulatory care, and independent, mostly non-profit hospitals providing the majority of inpatient care. Approximately 92% of the population is covered by a 'Statutory Health Insurance' plan, which provides a standardized level of coverage through any one of approximately 1100 public or private sickness funds. Standard insurance is funded by a combination of employee contributions, employer contributions and government subsidies on a scale determined by income level. Higher income workers sometimes choose to pay a tax and opt out of the standard plan, in favor of 'private' insurance. The latter's premiums are not linked to income level but instead to health status.[68]
Historically, the level of provider reimbursement for specific services is determined through negotiations between regional physician's associations and sickness funds. Since 1976 the government has convened an annual commission, composed of representatives of business, labor, physicians, hospitals, and insurance and pharmaceutical industries.[69] The commission takes into account government policies and makes recommendations to regional associations with respect to overall expenditure targets. In 1986 expenditure caps were implemented and were tied to the age of the local population as well as the overall wage increases. Although reimbursement of providers is on a fee-for-service basis the amount to be reimbursed for each service is determined retrospectively to ensure that spending targets are not exceeded. Capitated care, such as that provided by U.S. health maintenance organizations, has been considered as a cost containment mechanism but would require consent of regional medical associations, and has not materialized.[70] Copayments were introduced in the 1980s in an attempt to prevent overutilization and control costs. The average length of hospital stay in Germany has decreased in recent years from 14 days to 9 days, still considerably longer than average stays in the U.S. (5 to 6 days).[71][72] The difference is partly driven by the fact that hospital reimbursement is chiefly a function of the number of hospital days as opposed to procedures or the patient's diagnosis. Drug costs have increased substantially, rising nearly 60% from 1991 through 2005. Despite attempts to contain costs, overall health care expenditures rose to 10.7% of GDP in 2005, comparable to other western European nations, but substantially less than that spent in the U.S. (nearly 16% of GDP).[73]


Higher Education

Most colleges are state-funded. In 2010, five of the 16 states of Germany charged tuition fees at state-funded colleges, while in 11 states tuition was provided free of charge. There are no university-sponsored scholarships in Germany, but a number of private and public institutions award scholarships, usually to cover living costs and books. Moreover, there is a law (BAFöG or Bundesausbildungsförderungsgesetz) which ensures that needy people can get up to 650€ per month for 4–5 years if they or their parents cannot afford all the costs involved with studying. Part (typically half) of this money is an interest-free loan which has to be repaid. Many universities planning to introduce tuition fees have announced their intention to use part of the refunded money to create scholarship programmes, although the exact details are mostly vague.

Pretty clear that Germany is to the left of us on basically every issue... but their policies are reasonable? But it's also a horrible time to be a lefty?
 
Yes, because it's just him. You know much of this stems from the 100 other ignorant rants taken as facts right? Because driving by and telling everyone that they are being too serious seems really.... ignorant.

Carolla's schtick is to complain about everything and everyone. If you want to use this as an opportunity to discuss OWS critics, by all means... But as someone who is familiar with Carolla's ability to complain about every aspect of human behavior -mostly for comedic purpose- then I think it's laughable to get worked up over.
 
You're a mysterious man, Something Wicked.

First you say this:



Then you say this:



Let's examine those.

Taxation




Reaction to the financial crisis



Holy shit, government intervention helped out.



Healthcare




Higher Education



Pretty clear that Germany is to the left of us on basically every issue... but their policies are reasonable? But it's also a horrible time to be a lefty?

Don't forget the fact that Union membership is significantly higher there and collective bargaining is recognized as a vital part of the German economy.
 
Puddles said:
Anyone have a link to some AGW research?

Just ask KHarvery16. He has plenty of links to blogs of authors, who sell carbon credits.


Puddles said:
Pretty clear that Germany is to the left of us on basically every issue... but their policies are reasonable? But it's also a horrible time to be a lefty?

A) I have no problem with the concept government stimulus. It's how much money is being spent and where it is specifically going. Germany used its stimulus for infrastructure, the Obama administration/Democrat controlled Congress put very little strings attached to the US stimulus bill and much of it just went to paying states' public pension liabilities for just one more year. The US has been giving many people unemployment checks for multiple consecutive years- Germany forces you to work after a certain amount of months to receive checks. The German government spends its money much more wisely than the US government.

B) The top marginal income tax brackets of the US would have to be greater than Germany's just to pay for the US's current and future massive deficits without major structuring of social service programs. The way the US currently spends its tax dollars and the inherent higher costs of healthcare and college education in the US means Americans will never have a full fledged universal healthcare system and or highly subsidized college education, unless income tax rates are increased to 60, 70, and even 80% for many of the US tax brackets. Also, Germany's highest marginal tax rate has a much higher income threshold than the US currently. I support a "re-stratification" of the US tax system of those making more than $300k, but reasonable tax increases still will not pay for the US deficit and massive new government programs at the same time.

C) While the past decade has been pretty good, the future outlook for Germany is not all that rosy. Germany has a high debt to GDP ratio and significant financial exposure to other very economically weak European countries. Germany has a booming immigrant population that does not seem to moving up the economic ladder as they should. Such immigrants are too reliant on Germany's generous social services and the country is encouraging and eventually will have a sizable percentage of its population in a vicious generational poverty cycle (as seen the US and UK for many years). Such people in poverty will create a huge strain on Germany's social services and further increase its debt. Also, Germany will soon realize that solar and wind power used as the primary sources of power is unsustainable. They will surely regret the destroying of their own nuclear power industry. However, I think the German population is intelligent enough to figure things out before a true depression occurs- same with the US. France, on the other hand, I think will experience some real economic pain in the coming decades (not from lack of intelligence, but just too stubborn to make right changes).
 
Figures that Carolla spouts ignorant shit when he wrote this:

They're jokes, and aren't meant to be taken seriously. Carolla is not a smart guy, and hopefully no one actually bases their views on political topics on anything he says, but some of you guys don't seem to have even a basic understanding of what humor is. Carolla has also made jokes about molesting kids, or even molesting his own kids, or about having sex with his mother, but he doesn't really molest his kids and he hasn't really had sex with his mother. THey're jokes.
 
It'somewhat ironic that people bemoan the ban of someone like Manos because he brings another point of view to the table, especially in since he himself agrees with Corolla's contention that not everyone should be rewarded equally. Well the right's sense of entitlement when it comes to have their dishonest and hateful opinions heard fits perfectly in this context. Not all viewpoints are created equal. Corporate shilling doesn't add anything of value to discussions.
 
Adam Carolla is one of the most hilariously uneducated "comedians" out there.

His opinions and views are laughable.

They're jokes, and aren't meant to be taken seriously. Carolla is not a smart guy, and hopefully no one actually bases their views on political topics on anything he says, but some of you guys don't seem to have even a basic understanding of what humor is. Carolla has also made jokes about molesting kids, or even molesting his own kids, or about having sex with his mother, but he doesn't really molest his kids and he hasn't really had sex with his mother. THey're jokes.

Its not his jokes its his views people are likely talking about. There was once an interview with him and he stated that women aren't as intelligent as men in certain areas since its been men who have built bridges, buildings, and advanced technology throughout history. It was a serious interview too.

EDIT - Oh he was in an interview and getting questioned about the lines in his book in which he says this stuff:

It's one thing about having a contrarian opinion, it's another to thread bomb threads with it. Fortified_Concept is a great example of someone that has a contrarian opinion, but doesn't ruin threads.

This shit. Just look at the OWS thread, he has the most posts in it and just trolls and trolls and trolls.

Fortified_Concept also got banned and people cheered.

And?

I will miss Manos, he provided a nice counterpoint.

What counterpoint?

You guys seem to think I care that he was banned. I don't. I'm just saying it's lame to actually rejoice about it.

People are rejoices because he is annoying. He is annoying because he trolls all the time.
 
They're jokes, and aren't meant to be taken seriously. Carolla is not a smart guy, and hopefully no one actually bases their views on political topics on anything he says, but some of you guys don't seem to have even a basic understanding of what humor is. Carolla has also made jokes about molesting kids, or even molesting his own kids, or about having sex with his mother, but he doesn't really molest his kids and he hasn't really had sex with his mother. THey're jokes.

^ yup
 
They're jokes, and aren't meant to be taken seriously. Carolla is not a smart guy, and hopefully no one actually bases their views on political topics on anything he says, but some of you guys don't seem to have even a basic understanding of what humor is. Carolla has also made jokes about molesting kids, or even molesting his own kids, or about having sex with his mother, but he doesn't really molest his kids and he hasn't really had sex with his mother. THey're jokes.

Some people might, and the fact is that he espouses a viewpoint that results in policy which has a destructive influence on our country.
 
Some people might, and the fact is that he espouses a viewpoint that results in policy which has a destructive influence on our country.

Oh come on. Jokes are jokes. Do you think that people when hearing a little girl on the answering machine will go to the house kill the parents and fuck her up the ass just because Carlin joked about it?.

Carolla's humor isn't my problem with him, its his shitty viewpoints and how he advocates them.

He's the posterman of the scared deep into roots American white man who's incredibly uncomfortable at the (mostly right) changes society has been making over the past forty years and is now seeing imaginary correlations of men turning from the perfect 50's Godly manly men to vaginas and school system's which reward kids for failure (Que?) turning them into self-entitled manchildren.
 
Oh come on. Jokes are jokes. Do you think that people when hearing a little girl on the answering machine will go to the house kill the parents and fuck her up the ass just because Carlin joked about it?.

Carolla's humor isn't my problem with him, its his shitty viewpoints and how he advocates them.

He's the posterman of the scared deep into roots American white man who's incredibly uncomfortable at the (mostly right) changes society has been making over the past forty years and is now seeing imaginary correlations of men turning from the perfect 50's Godly manly men to vaginas and school system's which reward kids for failure (Que?) turning them into self-entitled manchildren.

A lot of that is kind of spot on, actually. It's a good thing he's a comedian trading on a sarcastic asshole schtick, and not a policy maker or role model.
 
A lot of that is kind of spot on, actually.

Hardly any of it is.

Schools hardly ever reward kids for failure, its just some overblown right wing talking point. The real problem is the lack of parenting and our laughable education system.

Men have been "turning into vaginas" for the past 1,000 years. People are just nostalgic for the 50's because that's when men had all of the power. And hardly any of the bad things (the ridiculous rape and abuse rates which have coincidently have taken a free fall since the 70's) were covered up with rose colored glasses. Older people (especially men) just love to bitch about how much better things were when they were young.
 
Adam Carolla is one of the most hilariously uneducated "comedians" out there.

His opinions and views are laughable.



Its not his jokes its his views people are likely talking about. There was once an interview with him and he stated that women aren't as intelligent as men in certain areas since its been men who have built bridges, buildings, and advanced technology throughout history. It was a serious interview too.

EDIT - Oh he was in an interview and getting questioned about the lines in his book in which he says this stuff:

Yeah, he is serious about his political or social opinions sometimes and I usually disagree with what he says. He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about with OWS, and is just clumsily trying to tack his hatred of entitlement onto it withougt understanding it. (I do agree with him about legalizing marijuana and allowing gay marriage and stuff like that). He is uneducated and not that smart, but the post I was responding to lists a bunch of stuff, like his Manny Pacquiao rant or him talking about Hawaiians being stupid, that clearly were jokes. He also has to turn everything into a angry/humorous rant to fill out a hour or more of podcast time every day or he'd run out of stuff to talk about. And the rants are just part of an angry persona, which is part of his humor.


Some people might, and the fact is that he espouses a viewpoint that results in policy which has a destructive influence on our country.

I guess some people might believe him, but I doubt his podcast gets more that a couple of hundred thousand listeners at best. It's just a podcast after all, he's not on TV or anything. He's not even on the radio. Still, a lot of his rants piss me off, especially when he defends lower taxes on the rich, which I'm violently opposed to.
 
Carolla has said a lot of politically retarded shit over the past few years and this is what people get uppity about? I like him and listen to him despite not agreeing with him politically.
 
Oh come on. Jokes are jokes. Do you think that people when hearing a little girl on the answering machine will go to the house kill the parents and fuck her up the ass just because Carlin joked about it?.

Carolla's humor isn't my problem with him, its his shitty viewpoints and how he advocates them.

He's the posterman of the scared deep into roots American white man who's incredibly uncomfortable at the (mostly right) changes society has been making over the past forty years and is now seeing imaginary correlations of men turning from the perfect 50's Godly manly men to vaginas and school system's which reward kids for failure (Que?) turning them into self-entitled manchildren.

I think if you read my post again, you'll see that this is exactly my problem with him as well. ;)
 
Did you even see the post I responded to? He used FC as an example of someone who isn't annoying and my point was that it didn't matter because he also got banned.

Its pointless because the people who cheered for fortified_concept aren't all of the people or cheered for Manos.

Yeah, he is serious about his political or social opinions sometimes and I usually disagree with what he says. He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about with OWS, and is just clumsily trying to tack his hatred of entitlement onto it withougt understanding it. (I do agree with him about legalizing marijuana and allowing gay marriage and stuff like that). He is uneducated and not that smart, but the post I was responding to lists a bunch of stuff, like his Manny Pacquiao rant or him talking about Hawaiians being stupid, that clearly were jokes. He also has to turn everything into a angry/humorous rant to fill out a hour or more of podcast time every day or he'd run out of stuff to talk about. And the rants are just part of an angry persona, which is part of his humor.

Agreed.

I think if you read my post again, you'll see that this is exactly my problem with him as well. ;)

I thought that you were referring to his joke not the viewpoint of this OWS comment.
 
Carolla has said a lot of politically retarded shit over the past few years and this is what people get uppity about?

In a movement struggling for legitimacy, forces that undermine it tend to hurt more. and as such, people are more sensitive. As evidenced in this thread.
 
Manos constantly shit on threads and sought to obfuscate them by making them about himself, generally ruining any sort of discourse that was taking place. Combination of attention whoring and trolling.
 
I thought you were highlighting his "wisdom" when you said "a lot of this is kind of spot on".

Sorry.

Yeah like when I see a book title like "In Fifty Years We'll All Be Chicks", that's definitely not a perspective I share. But that doesn't mean it's not funny to hear the complaining anyway. I just think he's so far from role model that I think it's a bit silly to raise the panic alarm over something he said.

Is he wrong? I think so. But that's the end of the battle in my mind.
 
The problem with many of these "movements" like OWS is that they attract a lot of shitheads. It's kins of like what Dennis Miller says about the legalization of pot movement - "It's not that I'm against legalizing pot, but at some point, if you really want to be taken seriously, you can't keep sending the lawyer with a ponytail to represent you."
 
The problem with many of these "movements" like OWS is that they attract a lot of shitheads. It's kins of like what Dennis Miller says about the legalization of pot movement - "It's not that I'm against legalizing pot, but at some point, if you really want to be taken seriously, you can't keep sending the lawyer with a ponytail to represent you."

so we should ignore the lawyer because he doesn't conform to a "lawyer" look, not because he's making a bad argument?
 
so we should ignore the lawyer because he doesn't conform to a "lawyer" look, not because he's making a bad argument?

Not that we should ignore him, but he WILL get ignored. If you want to change the system, sometimes you have to play within the system. Why do you think Ron Paul is a "Republican" - because he knows if he ran as a Libertarian he would have no chance of being elected to the House.
 
no one has ever, ever, ever wanted manos banned for simply having a different opinion. anyone that says otherwise is misinformed.
 
There might be entitled ass douches in the Occupy movement.

But there are greedy ass douches in charge of our banking and financial system.

So who's the bigger problem? The ass douches in charge or the ass douches who aren't?
 
The problem with many of these "movements" like OWS is that they attract a lot of shitheads. It's kins of like what Dennis Miller says about the legalization of pot movement - "It's not that I'm against legalizing pot, but at some point, if you really want to be taken seriously, you can't keep sending the lawyer with a ponytail to represent you."
When are conservatives going to stop sending out Dennis Miller?
 
I have never denied the process of evolution- you're making that up. And I always find it funny when people have to attach evolution denial to those skeptical of AGW. It's a tactic used when a person cannot comprehend the theoretical specific scientific processes of AGW, which I do. I can read scientific papers. I understand the thermodynamics and statistics behind the theory, and have come to the conclusion that AGW has an extremely low probability of occurring. Also, I'm assuming you don't even understand the basic microbiology behind evolution as well.

I distinctly recall a thread about evolution where you said something to the lines of "Who cares if you don't believe in evolution as long as you're rich?" I took your statement logically as a dismissal of evolution in favor of ignorance like it clearly is. And if you actually do believe in evolution, perhaps you should actually properly communicate it instead of posting drivel like that.



The primary reason I bring up both evolution in global warming is because your apparent position of both of them is ill informed. I am well researched on AGW. You statement that it has a "low probability" of occurring is absurd in the face of the fact that the world is warming and humans are contributing to it in a variety of ways. It is blatantly clear you don't understand it. Not only that, you ascribe to a dogmatic political ideology that states that humans can't effect the environment in any meaningful way. Your word cannot be taken seriously because you are driven by bias regardless of whether you realize it or not. Just putting "I am informed on the issue" in your post does not make it true.
 
When are conservatives going to stop sending out Dennis Miller?

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I distinctly recall a thread about evolution where you said something to the lines of "Who cares if you don't believe in evolution as long as you're rich?" I took your statement logically as a dismissal of evolution in favor of ignorance like it clearly is. And if you actually do believe in evolution, perhaps you should actually properly communicate it instead of posting drivel like that.



The primary reason I bring up both evolution in global warming is because your apparent position of both of them is ill informed. I am well researched on AGW. You statement that it has a "low probability" of occurring is absurd in the face of the fact that the world is warming and humans are contributing to it in a variety of ways. It is blatantly clear you don't understand it. Not only that, you ascribe to a dogmatic political ideology that states that humans can't effect the environment in any meaningful way. Your word cannot be taken seriously because you are driven by bias regardless of whether you realize it or not. Just putting "I am informed on the issue" in your post does not make it true.
The moment someone denies that humans do not have a meaningful effect on the environment I simply tell them to go learn about the Little Ice Age.
 
Yeah I'd totally trade Manos for Something Wicked. *pours a little egg nog onto the floor*

He'll be back before long, so enjoy the vacation, I say.
 
A) I have no problem with the concept government stimulus. It's how much money is being spent and where it is specifically going. Germany used its stimulus for infrastructure, the Obama administration/Democrat controlled Congress put very little strings attached to the US stimulus bill and much of it just went to paying states' public pension liabilities for just one more year. The US has been giving many people unemployment checks for multiple consecutive years- Germany forces you to work after a certain amount of months to receive checks. The German government spends its money much more wisely than the US government.

B) The top marginal income tax brackets of the US would have to be greater than Germany's just to pay for the US's current and future massive deficits without major structuring of social service programs. The way the US currently spends its tax dollars and the inherent higher costs of healthcare and college education in the US means Americans will never have a full fledged universal healthcare system and or highly subsidized college education, unless income tax rates are increased to 60, 70, and even 80% for many of the US tax brackets. Also, Germany's highest marginal tax rate has a much higher income threshold than the US currently. I support a "re-stratification" of the US tax system of those making more than $300k, but reasonable tax increases still will not pay for the US deficit and massive new government programs at the same time.

C) While the past decade has been pretty good, the future outlook for Germany is not all that rosy. Germany has a high debt to GDP ratio and significant financial exposure to other very economically weak European countries. Germany has a booming immigrant population that does not seem to moving up the economic ladder as they should. Such immigrants are too reliant on Germany's generous social services and the country is encouraging and eventually will have a sizable percentage of its population in a vicious generational poverty cycle (as seen the US and UK for many years). Such people in poverty will create a huge strain on Germany's social services and further increase its debt. Also, Germany will soon realize that solar and wind power used as the primary sources of power is unsustainable. They will surely regret the destroying of their own nuclear power industry. However, I think the German population is intelligent enough to figure things out before a true depression occurs- same with the US. France, on the other hand, I think will experience some real economic pain in the coming decades (not from lack of intelligence, but just too stubborn to make right changes).

First things first: we're in complete agreement about stimulus. Clearly our stimulus was horribly inefficient. It seems that what you're opposed to is ineffective government intervention rather than any government intervention.

Second, I agree with you that the U.S. has certain built-in medical costs that make it harder for us to match other first-world countries in healthcare efficiency. The first thing we need to do is allow the government to leverage a bulk drug discount across the board. The VA already does this, but Medicare Part D was specifically prohibited from doing this in what has to be one of the most egregious corporate handouts ever. We need to get the price we pay for drugs down to what the rest of the first world pays on average.

Also, and I hate to say this, the job description of a typical doctor will have to change a bit. We need to transition to a system where we have more doctors paying less for medical school, working shorter hours, and making less money. The field should still be well-compensated, but perhaps not quite so handsomely as it is now.

Third, I agree with you that Germany has some challenges ahead. I would note that its debt to GDP ratio is lower than ours, and that two of the challenges you mentioned: being dragged down by the rest of the Eurozone, and a large immigration population, really have nothing to do with its left-leaning social and economic policies.


What baffles me is the incongruence between the post I just responded to and the post I quoted at the top of this page. In your more recent post, you seem to express moderate, nuanced political opinions. This doesn't jive at all with your trollish "The left is DOOOOMED, muahahaha" post from before. Also, it seems like some of the things you hate aren't specifically tied to the left. Most liberals I know also hate inefficient, ineffective policy.
 
Just listened to his rant. He sounds very uneducated. His sloppy argument misses the point of the OWS movement. He focuses on the idea of jealousy and deliberately avoids discussion of ethics and unjust financial systems that the entire movement is about.


His main point is that people today are envious of the rich? No. People are angry that this new rich class is gaming the system and that in today's economy, we cannot have our wealthy class working against our domestic economy in the pursuit of shareholder or personal profit.
 
So Adam Corolla calls 20 somethings "self entitled assdouches" and said 20 somethings proceed to act like self entitled assdouches.

He's onto something.

I love the medal for everyone comment, I find this method of rewarding failure repugnant. You can't win if you don't know what it's like to lose.
 
So Adam Corolla calls 20 somethings "self entitled assdouches" and said 20 somethings proceed to act like self entitled assdouches.

He's onto something.

I love the medal for everyone comment, I find this method of rewarding failure repugnant. You can't win if you don't know what it's like to lose.

Disagree with what Adam Corolla spouts and you're a self entitled assdouche. You heard it here, ladies and gentlemen. Adam Corolla is calling you OUT.
 
OWS has been a laughable mess as predicted.

US Democrats may soon lose the White House and Senate.

Union pensions are finally being identified as having a major role in many of the US' fiscal problems.

European social collectivism is being crushed for its misguided views on human nature.

AGW support is crumbling throughout the world.

Free market capitalism is bringing billions of people up from poverty and into modern lifestyles.


Ah, it sure is a bad time to be a lefty in this world. You guys may want to reevaluate how you look at the world and life, because your current views are just going to further embarrass you in the near future. Then again, continue to maintain your envy filled ideologies, which always blindly sides with a perceived "underdog." I enjoy looking down upon the... less enlightened.
I am at a loss to imagine how "European collectivism" and "anti-capitalism" both encompass the totality of left-leaning views, since 15 of the 30 freest economies in the world, according to the 2011 Index of Economic Freedom, are actually European countries. Many Americans on the left would probably consider Scandinavia a good model - relatively free economies (including Denmark, which is "freer" even than the US), strong social safety net, socially liberal, and lower debts than many other developed countries. Few people were pinning to be Greece, even before the current crisis. And let's not forget that Ireland - a country that many on the right were praising - is also at the center of this mess. This is not merely an issue of profligacy vs. good stewardship, as many try to make it out to be.

I also thought that The Berkeley Earth Project would've been a boon to the idea of global warming. But I guess I have to trust the person who lectures others about ideology, and then turns a purely empirical question into a left-right ideological one.
 
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