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Affliction Day of Reckoning: Fedor vs Arlovski & UFC 93 Thread
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Wish this was 5 rounds. The Franklin cut sucks.
Stoney Mason
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Henderson just too strong. Still wish it had been a five round fight.
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I went 3-2 on the main card. Fairly lackluster event but that was expected.
Future PhaZe
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I heard that Jardine/Rampage was announced for UFC 96.
WTF?!
WTF?!
Stoney Mason
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Hitman said:
The tradition has been not to spoil it for the people who watch it at the traditional time for over-seas pay per views.
didn't get to watch the event, hoping to catch the replay tonight... but could someone spoiler me and let me know how the lytle/davis fight was? i had high hopes for that match, but probably will miss it again on the replay tonight.
and yea, the ufc 96 card is pretty disappointing. i just got my tickets for it this week too, was hoping for rampage/rashad
thanks for the belcher pick fafnir, i lost on davis/lytle but the odds on belcher netted me some loot
and yea, the ufc 96 card is pretty disappointing. i just got my tickets for it this week too, was hoping for rampage/rashad
sefskillz said:
LOL np, I thought Davis/Lytle was a pretty good fight, but my stream kept going out for the first 2 rounds.
I don't like the Rampage vs Jardine fight. It gives too much advantage to the Greg Jackson camp to test out their gameplan for Rampage in case Rampage vs Rashad happens afterwards.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
dem said:
Yeah totally so the question is WTF was Rich so insistant on clinching with him? Seems like a bad gameplan to me.
Wow... the Shogan vs. Coleman fight was trash. Coleman was expected to be past his prime and it was no surprise he'd gas. But Shogan's showing was horrible. The dude really doesn't look like he has the drive anymore. He was always a little lazy in Pride but his athleticism and skills helped him win anyways. it's like these Pride guys just don't have motivation to do well anymore. If Shogan was in there with any top 10 205er he might have been killed.
I don't even see a reason for Rampage to avenge his loss to Shogun anymore. What would be the point? But wtf is he fighting Jardine instead of Forrest or Rashad? He's fighting the guy who just got ktfo by the guy he just ktfo. Forrest already said he didn't want to fight page again right after he won the first fight so maybe Jardine was the only one who would except the fight?
My god, Lytle vs Davis was truly a war! Awesome fight, hopefully they'll have a re-match.
Kang vs Belcher was also a thing of beauty in the jiu-jitsu department - Kang should have kept at stand-up instead of trying to get Belcher down every time.
WTH is wrong with Shogun? His stamina has really been trash and it seems he doesn't have the same fighting/killing instinct like in Pride. The way he is now, he wouldn't be able to compete at all with the top LHWs.
Coleman moved like a can, fought like a can, and had a stamina like a can - and even then Shogun had so much trouble fighting him.
Good fight between Franklin and Hendo - I would love to see a re-match between these 2. Franklin did a good job with his kicks although unfortunately he got caught in the 2nd round. Agreed with a split decision win although one of the judge's decision was bullshit though. (30-27 Franklin? WTF is that?)
Kang vs Belcher was also a thing of beauty in the jiu-jitsu department - Kang should have kept at stand-up instead of trying to get Belcher down every time.
WTH is wrong with Shogun? His stamina has really been trash and it seems he doesn't have the same fighting/killing instinct like in Pride. The way he is now, he wouldn't be able to compete at all with the top LHWs.
Coleman moved like a can, fought like a can, and had a stamina like a can - and even then Shogun had so much trouble fighting him.
Good fight between Franklin and Hendo - I would love to see a re-match between these 2. Franklin did a good job with his kicks although unfortunately he got caught in the 2nd round. Agreed with a split decision win although one of the judge's decision was bullshit though. (30-27 Franklin? WTF is that?)
i thought he won the first 2 rounds so he would of won. maybe he didn't have a good training camp because of his knee? listen shogun will never be the same fighter because of his 2 major knee surgeries. if he can be 80 percent of what he used to be then he can still make a good impact in the 205lb division. he could always drop down to 185.Hunter D said:
it was a pretty awful ppv
i think shogun is done, he just doesnt look the same, i know he had 2 major knee surgeries and a 18 month layoff, but he has looked bad the last 2 times in the octagon
and its hard to ignore he simply looks like a different person out there, i dont like to usually make steroid accusations, but it makes you wonder, he looks so soft out there, he could easily cut to 185 given how he looks at 205
i think dana gave coleman/rua co-FOTN just to hype the Chuck vs Rua fight at UFC 97
if shogun doesnt step up his training for that fight in 3 mos, he's going to get KOd by Chuck
i think shogun is done, he just doesnt look the same, i know he had 2 major knee surgeries and a 18 month layoff, but he has looked bad the last 2 times in the octagon
and its hard to ignore he simply looks like a different person out there, i dont like to usually make steroid accusations, but it makes you wonder, he looks so soft out there, he could easily cut to 185 given how he looks at 205
i think dana gave coleman/rua co-FOTN just to hype the Chuck vs Rua fight at UFC 97
if shogun doesnt step up his training for that fight in 3 mos, he's going to get KOd by Chuck
Coleman is in his 40's and has fought at heavyweight his entire career and he was still taking shogun down at will even though he gassed the moment the bell rang. He also lumped up shogun's noggin even though he didn't land that many. Rampage would literally kill him if they fought now. Hell, I would be scared to see shogun in a match with Irvin at this point.smurfx said:
I only caught the last two fights and they were irritating to watch. Even the Hendo-Franklin fight didn't have as much energy as I'd of liked but it would get a A+ rating compared to the abomination that was the Coleman-Rua fight. WTF was that? Jet lag? Inconvenient fire alarms in the middle of the night? Or are they both actually that horse shit? Every time you see clips of their training on promos, as soon as the cameras turned off, they must of fucked off out of the gym for chips and pizza.
Everyone should stop making excuses for Rua, hes admitted many times that he is now 100% so why disagree? Even after the fight, it was funny when Joe asked him how much the lay off had effected his performance almost inferring what Rua should say yet he gave completely the wrong answer. :lol
Everyone should stop making excuses for Rua, hes admitted many times that he is now 100% so why disagree? Even after the fight, it was funny when Joe asked him how much the lay off had effected his performance almost inferring what Rua should say yet he gave completely the wrong answer. :lol
If Rua shows up to UFC 97 in the same condition he did tonight, Liddell is literally going to murder him in the cage.
These are professional athletes, tonights performance makes MMA in general look bad. They looked like 2 drunk guys throwing down in the local bar.
These are professional athletes, tonights performance makes MMA in general look bad. They looked like 2 drunk guys throwing down in the local bar.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Fafnir said:
If Miller/Maynerd doesnt interest you then you arent much of an MMA fan. Gonzaga/Carwin is also a very interesting fight.
two events in a row, i only got 2 of the 5 main card picks correct. man i suck.
nothing intriguing came out of this entire event for me, i don't think any questions were answered about anyone and i dont think any questions have been answered about anyone.
davis v lytle went exactly like we all thought it would- stand and bang, very close, split decision that i am sure neither of them care that much about. i mean, a win does not do anything for either of these guys- they are both gatekeepers and are not going to be anything more in the near future.
horn v palhares was a pretty meh grappling match- i just dont think jeremy cares anymore about this stuff. palhares didnt look that impressive, but he was having to try and gnp when he is a jiu jitsu fighter, so i guess we shouldnt be surprised.
kang v belcher was pretty much a big turd- belcher wanted to pretend he was an awesome muay thai fighter and was getting punched in the face while causing almost no damage back. then kang went and got caught in a pretty simple submission with an arm-in guillotine when there were about 20 seconds left in the round. hey, i gotta say congrats to belcher for winning, but he is not an elite fighter. feed him to maia or someone like that. please.
coleman v rua just hurt to watch. if shogun did not suck ass, he would have finished coleman in the first round. shogun had almost zero sprawl or takedown defense, and coleman was able to use these slow, lumbering shots and single legs to get it to the mat. both guys were bad and i think they will both lose to anyone legit. i mean, honestly, who would you pick for these guys to be able to beat out of, say, the top 25 205'ers out there? i wouldnt pick shogun against anyone right now. you can say i am giving him a hard time, he is just coming off an injury, etc. but i dont really give a shit. i really think the problem is he came into the ufc with way to much hype that was all a result of him going on a run and winning a gp. he has beaten some good fighters in the past, but that is so far behind where is he now it is depressing.
hendo v franklin - i wish it was a 5 round fight. a good war, and i think hendo barely won, but i still think franklin was the better fighter. i couldnt believe those scores at the end, i dont get how it was a split decision, but neither guy did enough for me to believe that one of them is better than the other. i think franklin was more well rounded and hendo is really good at throwing huge looping punches and getting takedowns.
all in all, it was a very meh card for me. hopefully the affliction card turns out to be good.
nothing intriguing came out of this entire event for me, i don't think any questions were answered about anyone and i dont think any questions have been answered about anyone.
davis v lytle went exactly like we all thought it would- stand and bang, very close, split decision that i am sure neither of them care that much about. i mean, a win does not do anything for either of these guys- they are both gatekeepers and are not going to be anything more in the near future.
horn v palhares was a pretty meh grappling match- i just dont think jeremy cares anymore about this stuff. palhares didnt look that impressive, but he was having to try and gnp when he is a jiu jitsu fighter, so i guess we shouldnt be surprised.
kang v belcher was pretty much a big turd- belcher wanted to pretend he was an awesome muay thai fighter and was getting punched in the face while causing almost no damage back. then kang went and got caught in a pretty simple submission with an arm-in guillotine when there were about 20 seconds left in the round. hey, i gotta say congrats to belcher for winning, but he is not an elite fighter. feed him to maia or someone like that. please.
coleman v rua just hurt to watch. if shogun did not suck ass, he would have finished coleman in the first round. shogun had almost zero sprawl or takedown defense, and coleman was able to use these slow, lumbering shots and single legs to get it to the mat. both guys were bad and i think they will both lose to anyone legit. i mean, honestly, who would you pick for these guys to be able to beat out of, say, the top 25 205'ers out there? i wouldnt pick shogun against anyone right now. you can say i am giving him a hard time, he is just coming off an injury, etc. but i dont really give a shit. i really think the problem is he came into the ufc with way to much hype that was all a result of him going on a run and winning a gp. he has beaten some good fighters in the past, but that is so far behind where is he now it is depressing.
hendo v franklin - i wish it was a 5 round fight. a good war, and i think hendo barely won, but i still think franklin was the better fighter. i couldnt believe those scores at the end, i dont get how it was a split decision, but neither guy did enough for me to believe that one of them is better than the other. i think franklin was more well rounded and hendo is really good at throwing huge looping punches and getting takedowns.
all in all, it was a very meh card for me. hopefully the affliction card turns out to be good.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
http://mmalinker.com/viewer/12075/i/UFC_93_Rich_Franklin_vs_Dan_Henderson.html
Its not working very well for me but you can try it.
Its not working very well for me but you can try it.
Brian Fellows
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Gotta be smart enough to look at the match ups. Unlike Gray's last opponent Miller is a stud wrestler who also happens excellent subs and ever improving hands. I also believe Gray really wants to put on exciting fights and will not want a repeat of Chicago.
Sadly for Clementi Joe Silva decided to put him in another shitty match up against Tibau.
Sadly for Clementi Joe Silva decided to put him in another shitty match up against Tibau.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Yeah I went 60% too. But its my own fault for being a fanboy and picking Ace even though the fight went exactly how I expected.
Stoney Mason
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I wish there was a rule that the main event of any UFC card has to be 5 rounds mandatory.
Brian Fellows
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Asbel said:To all the betters.
Just curious. Have you guys been able to make a little money from these events or has it just been an 'entertainment expense'? Is your total on the positive or negative side thus far?
I started out with $50 bucks. At the moment i'm at $100 after losing $10 on Mohr last yesterday.
Yeah I'm only really interested in main eventers. More power to you if a Maynerd/Miller fight get's your juices flowing. I only know that Maynerd knocked himself out in the Ultimate Finale and have no recollection of any Jim Miller fights.
I was wondering why the UFC doesn't do that for the non-title main events. The Ultimate Finale for the contract should be 5 rounders at least.
Stoney Mason said:
I was wondering why the UFC doesn't do that for the non-title main events. The Ultimate Finale for the contract should be 5 rounders at least.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Like I said not much of an MMA fan. You'd rather see names than good fights.
Finally watched.
We still spoiler tagging?
Davis Lytle delivered. If Davis didn't run his mouth so damn much about it being a legendary fight, the impact woulda been heavier, but I was entertained throughout.
Belcher's sub was great. Kang looked solid, and Belcher overall didn't look his best, but that guillotine was ace.
Poor Horn. Tough fight, entertaining, but he was just so swamped. Can't blame him for being a bit tentative but that sure didn't help him. Tree stump not finishing was surprising, but the ground work was still great to watch.
Nothing more needs to be said Coleman/Rua. Coleman was running on fumes in the first, and Rua looked like shit. As Coleman faded I expected Rua to make a point out of Coleman, and drag out a serious beating. Then his head didn't move an inch, and he was eating punches that I could dodged without trying, and knew something was wrong. I wanna hear an excuse because if he holds to his "I was 100%" line in the post-fight then get him out. How he can possibly be put up against any real striker and expect to survive is beyond me, moving like molasses like that.
Solid main event. It was a tough one to watch because I adore both guys so damn much, and just waiting for something huge was getting to me. A slight case of having a lot of respect and holding back from them both, but they still both delivered.
Overall shoulda been free, but I enjoyed enough of it. If
We still spoiler tagging?
Davis Lytle delivered. If Davis didn't run his mouth so damn much about it being a legendary fight, the impact woulda been heavier, but I was entertained throughout.
Belcher's sub was great. Kang looked solid, and Belcher overall didn't look his best, but that guillotine was ace.
Poor Horn. Tough fight, entertaining, but he was just so swamped. Can't blame him for being a bit tentative but that sure didn't help him. Tree stump not finishing was surprising, but the ground work was still great to watch.
Nothing more needs to be said Coleman/Rua. Coleman was running on fumes in the first, and Rua looked like shit. As Coleman faded I expected Rua to make a point out of Coleman, and drag out a serious beating. Then his head didn't move an inch, and he was eating punches that I could dodged without trying, and knew something was wrong. I wanna hear an excuse because if he holds to his "I was 100%" line in the post-fight then get him out. How he can possibly be put up against any real striker and expect to survive is beyond me, moving like molasses like that.
Solid main event. It was a tough one to watch because I adore both guys so damn much, and just waiting for something huge was getting to me. A slight case of having a lot of respect and holding back from them both, but they still both delivered.
Overall shoulda been free, but I enjoyed enough of it. If
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