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[SnakeXs]

There's new talent everywhere. That's not a problem.

Sure there is. But you have to pay them. And to do that you have to make money at some point.

 

[Big-E]

I have and he was hurt.

Fedor was no where near hurt. Choi hurt Fedor more than AA did and Choi didn't really hurt him at all.

 

[dskillzhtown]

Awesome event. UFC has some serious competition.

If they can get Mark Cuban's money I need to find out did they pay to be on UDNet or was it the other way around) and some kind of other income other than T-shirts, then they might have a chance. If I were them I would stick to 2 or 3 PPVs a year though.

 

[unomas]

He was controlling the fight, when Fedor wasn't controlling him in the corner. For what, 2 minutes? Jesus. Some people are fucking retarded.

The fact is, Fedor landed a perfectly timed shot right on AA's chin the MOMENT AA made a mistake. He got knocked out. He got folded like a piece of paper.

It's not like they fought for 4 rounds and AA was owning him then Fedor landed some lucky punch.

He has been in a lot more trouble in his career. It's not like some huge deal AA was landing some shots on him.

I didn't say Fedor was hurt, I didn't say he was even in trouble. Arlovski was controlling him Fedor landed a haymaker on a target he wasn't even looking at. Bottom line is Fedor won the fight but I'm not gonna say the guy is the best because he landed a punch on a target he wasn't even looking at. He's a great fighter and the best heavyweight but most of us are sick of this WAMMA bullshit and want to see him in the UFC. I would have liked to see more of what we were seeing but Arlovski went full retard.

 

[JasonUresti]

Not luck at all, Fedor was looking for that overhand right from the beginning of the fight. which was a good plan, as Andrei is notorious for dropping his hands, most notably the left hand, when he attacks.

 

[tetsuoxb]

I didn't say Fedor was hurt, I didn't say he was even in trouble. Arlovski was controlling him Fedor landed a haymaker on a target he wasn't even looking at. Bottom line is Fedor won the fight but I'm not gonna say the guy is the best because he landed a punch on a target he wasn't even looking at. He's a great fighter and the best heavyweight but most of us are sick of this WAMMA bullshit and want to see him in the UFC. I would have liked to see more of what we were seeing but Arlovski went full retard.

You are blind, sir. Fedor bounces off the ropes, looks at AA, then cocks the right hand. AA had his arms down and Fedor knew what was coming. The minute AA was in range, out flies the right and out go the lights.

Fedor had that punch locked and loaded after the push kick.

 

[GalacticAE]

Fedor had the meaty focus attack to beat the tiger knee FTW. That was awesome. :lol

 

[unomas]

You are blind, sir. Fedor bounces off the ropes, looks at AA, then cocks the right hand. AA had his arms down and Fedor knew what was coming. The minute AA was in range, out flies the right and out go the lights.

Fedor had that punch locked and loaded after the push kick.

No different than the multitude of haymakers he thew earlier in the round and missed with. I'm sure he practices hitting targets in mid air all the time I'm just not a Feeeaaaador not hugger, he throws those looping punches all the time and Arlovski left himself wide open for it.

 

[Arde5643]

Good effort by AA, he was controlling the standup but he shouldn't have been too aggressive against Fedor.

That was a beautiful counter by Fedor just as Arlovski rushes forward with the knee.

 

[Ripclawe]

 

[op_ivy]

gah, sorry i missed it. i'm sure it goes without saying but please post a link to the fight and some gifs when available

EDIT: gracias. looked like a very well placed punch to me. perfectly timed and everything. blind haymaker? hah

 

[SnakeXs]

Anyone still wanna say it was a lucky punch and Fedor was hurt?

 

[Core407]

Hahaha there it is! I recorded it on my cell phone and have it in .avi format on my computer. Fedor is the MAN. Why doesn't he move to UFC or something?

 

[JasonUresti]

Yes, look guys, Andrei came moving in with his hands nearly at his waist, his stance was practically begging for an overhand right.

 

[Blackface]

Hahaha there it is! I recorded it on my cell phone and have it in .avi format on my computer. Fedor is the MAN. Why doesn't he move to UFC or something?

UFC wants him to quit Sambo, and sign a contract that keeps him in the UFC until he loses or retires, with no other opportunity to re-negotiate.

He has said he will fight in the UFC, but wants a 1 fight contract, something the UFC does not want to give (understandably).

 

[Boogie]

"Or something like that..."

And by "something" he means "murders his wife."

Seriously, I can't believe Barnett put a tribute to a WIFE MURDERER on his shorts. What the FUCK, Barnett?

 

[Ripclawe]

 

[op_ivy]

love to see him take on brock... i'm sure dana would too

 

[tetsuoxb]

love to see him take on brock... i'm sure dana would too

Dana has no interest in Fedor unless he can lock Fedor in long term, which Fedor does not want.

Imagine if Fedor gets a one-fight deal, destroys Brock, and jumps back to doing M-1 shows or NYE Shows in Japan.

Dana's publicity meal ticket would be exposed Kimbo style, and he wouldn't have a new champ to hype.

 

[Future PhaZe]

Imagine if Fedor gets a one-fight deal, destroys Brock, and jumps back to doing M-1 shows or NYE Shows in Japan.

Dana's publicity meal ticket would be exposed Kimbo style, and he wouldn't have a new champ to hype.

Or Mir basically subs Brock, then Mir gets taken down quickly...Brock gets belt back...then gets subbed, blah blah blah shit shit shit.

Might as well bring in Fedor and hope he likes the UFC. No one is going to be dominant at heavy weight in the UFC right now.

 

[EviLore]

 

[dskillzhtown]

Or Mir basically subs Brock, then Mir gets taken down quickly...Brock gets belt back...then gets subbed, blah blah blah shit shit shit.

Might as well bring in Fedor and hope he likes the UFC. No one is going to be dominant at heavy weight in the UFC right now.

Wait. It isn't like UFC needs Fedor. I am thinking they will make plenty of money without him. Fedor doesn't exactly have alot of leverage here. He will never fight in UFC and I think both sides are fine with that.

 

[Boogie]

Pic says it all, really.

Was Arlovski doing well? Yup.

Was he winning the fight? Yup.

Did Fedor look human for 3 minutes? Yup.

Doesn't matter. Dude doesn't lose. He knocked Andrei out cold.

 

[Future PhaZe]

Wait. It isn't like UFC needs Fedor. I am thinking they will make plenty of money without him. Fedor doesn't exactly have alot of leverage here. He will never fight in UFC and I think both sides are fine with that.

True

 

[smurfx]

WAMMA Heavyweight Championship bout: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Andrei Arlovski
Heavyweight bout: Josh Barnett vs. Gilbert Yvel
Light Heavyweight bout: Renato Sobral vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou
Middleweight bout: Matt Lindland vs. Vitor Belfort
Lightweight bout: Chris Horodecki vs. Dan Lauzon
Heavyweight bout: Paul Buentello vs. Kiril Sidelnikov

HDNet matches
Light Heavyweight bout: Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira


these are my picks.

looks like i didn't do to bad with affliction. looks like the only left that can beat fedor is barnett.

 

[NinjaCodah]

Pic says it all, really.

Was Arlovski doing well? Yup.

Was he winning the fight? Yup.

Did Fedor look human for 3 minutes? Yup.

Doesn't matter. Dude doesn't lose. He knocked Andrei out cold.

Fedor Emelianenko.

 

[NinjaCodah]

it's not the first time Fedor beats someone who started stronger than he did at first.

 

[NinjaCodah]

btw, it was a good event. i really hope we'll see a 3rd Affliction show with Fedor and Barnett.

 

[NinjaCodah]

I didn't say Fedor was hurt, I didn't say he was even in trouble. Arlovski was controlling him Fedor landed a haymaker on a target he wasn't even looking at. Bottom line is Fedor won the fight but I'm not gonna say the guy is the best because he landed a punch on a target he wasn't even looking at. He's a great fighter and the best heavyweight but most of us are sick of this WAMMA bullshit and want to see him in the UFC. I would have liked to see more of what we were seeing but Arlovski went full retard.

Fedor is the best fighter on earth because no matter what happens he'll win. At this point I don't believe he wasn't looking. If he didn't it's because he didn't need to - he's Fedor Emelianenko, and YES HE'S THAT GOOD. AA made a mistake, Fedor didn't. Maybe YOU need to look at your target to fuck him up, but Fedor doesn't because he just knew what AA would do. At some point, you gotta look at the outcome of every fight Fedor has been in. He's been through worse before (Fujita, Randleman, Hunt, etc...) He's the the best because no matter what he'll win - the UFC's got nothing in its HW division that could remotely challenge that.


Hopefully, there's a 3rd Affliction show and Fedor fights Barnett.

 

[jakershaker]

Fedor is the best fighter on earth because no matter what happens he'll win. At this point I don't believe he wasn't looking. If he didn't it's because he didn't need to - he's Fedor Emelianenko, and YES HE'S THAT GOOD. AA made a mistake, Fedor didn't. Maybe YOU need to look at your target to fuck him up, but Fedor doesn't because he just knew what AA would do. At some point, you gotta look at the outcome of every fight Fedor has been in. He's been through worse before (Fujita, Randleman, Hunt, etc...) He's the the best because no matter what he'll win - the UFC's got nothing in its HW division that could remotely challenge that.

FEDOR THE BADDEST MAN ON EARTH :lol :lol :lol

I know the guy is good and all but this is a fight he was losing and if AA had been a bit more conservative who knows what way it would have gone. It's like every other match in MMA when a fighter has a good gameplan and gets angry/sloppy/aggressive and by that opens himself up for counterattacks. But no, it only happened because HES FEDOR AND HE'S THAT GOOD. I love Fedor style but seriously, people need to calm down sometimes.

Boogie said it pretty good too.

 

[polyh3dron]

Awesome undercard fights, shitty main event.

 

[polyh3dron]

Tito is soooooo horrible with the commentary, this cannot be mentioned enough....

Let me tell you how you're feeling... lol

 

[kobashi100]

Awesome by Fedor. Problem for Arlovski was in the gym sparring against them boxers, none of them throw punches the way Fedor does.

Also I am Sick of hearing people say he needs to join UFC!

UFC heavyweight division is pretty weak. Its not like Fedor has to go there and prove to the world he is better then them guys.

The only fighter in the UFC for Fedor was Randy. After he lost to Brock that put an end to people saying "Randy would beat Fedor". Brock or Mir would get destroyed by Fedor.

has anyone really hurt Fedor apart from Kazuyuki Fujita??

Fedor has to fight Josh Barnett now. Josh is the the credible challanger!!

 

[Tristam]

FEDOR THE BADDEST MAN ON EARTH :lol :lol :lol

I know the guy is good and all but this is a fight he was losing and if AA had been a bit more conservative who knows what way it would have gone. It's like every other match in MMA when a fighter has a good gameplan and gets angry/sloppy/aggressive and by that opens himself up for counterattacks. But no, it only happened because HES FEDOR AND HE'S THAT GOOD. I love Fedor style but seriously, people need to calm down sometimes.

Boogie said it pretty good too.

He was losing in the sense that if you stopped the fight at 2 minutes, the judge's decision would go to Arlovski. But the first two minutes basically amounted to two fighters getting a feel for one another. I didn't see anything that made me thought either was going to lose. I'm not sure what Arlovski was thinking. I think he got excited after he had backed Fedor into the ropes. But just 'cuz you someone's against the ropes and their guard is half-down doesn't mean you go in for a flying knee.

has anyone really hurt Fedor apart from Kazuyuki Fujita??

Randleman's suplex? Every time I watch that replay, it always looks like it's a move that could kill a man -- Fedor landed on the top of his spine. Still, maybe his neck is really flexible or he landed just right or something, 'cuz he didn't really seem fazed by it.

Hong Man Choi, Cro Cop, and Matt Lindland left some bruises on him. No one's gotten as close to knocking him out as Fujita though.

 

[kobashi100]

Arlovski's pure boxing was much better but this is not Boxing. Fedor did look slower than usual though.

Fedor showed again why his is the best fighter on the planet. When another fighter looks like he getting on top Fedor always turns it around.

Remember when Randleman dropped him on his head with that suplex. Remeber Fujita rocking him with the right hand and hurting him. Fedor always comes back and wins!!

As I had to watch a video of the fights I have not seen the Barnett interview. Can someone explain what he actually said?

 

[EviLore]

FEDOR THE BADDEST MAN ON EARTH :lol :lol :lol

I know the guy is good and all but this is a fight he was losing and if AA had been a bit more conservative who knows what way it would have gone. It's like every other match in MMA when a fighter has a good gameplan and gets angry/sloppy/aggressive and by that opens himself up for counterattacks. But no, it only happened because HES FEDOR AND HE'S THAT GOOD. I love Fedor style but seriously, people need to calm down sometimes.

Boogie said it pretty good too.

Mirko got the best of several big exchanges and battered Fedor's face, Fujita nearly dropped him and left him unbalanced for minutes, Randleman landed the most insane suplex ever on him, Hunt was pretty close to a kimura on him, Coleman took him down (lol, yes, but that's his entire gameplan so I'll list it), Schilt locked away his ground and pound with absurd grip strength, Nog took took his very best shots with barely any effect and was impossible to submit, Hong Man Choi overpowered him, Arona negated his grappling, and Arlovski's boxing stopped his momentum cold.

For all the hype and hyperbole, Fedor is not an invincible machine. What separates him from every other fighter is not invulnerability or that he's really Optimus Prime, it's that he was placed in all these types of inevitable, difficult circumstances that are what lead MMA fighters to all have spotty records, but he didn't lose when others would. The W is there, no matter what.

 

[tetsuoxb]

Mirko got the best of several big exchanges and battered Fedor's face, Fujita nearly dropped him and left him unbalanced for minutes, Randleman landed the most insane suplex ever on him, Hunt was pretty close to a kimura on him, Coleman took him down (lol, yes, but that's his entire gameplan so I'll list it), Schilt locked away his ground and pound with absurd grip strength, Nog took took his very best shots with barely any effect and was impossible to submit, Hong Man Choi overpowered him, Arona negated his grappling, and Arlovski's boxing stopped his momentum cold.

For all the hype and hyperbole, Fedor is not an invincible machine. What separates him from every other fighter is not invulnerability or that he's really Optimus Prime, it's that he was placed in all these types of inevitable, difficult circumstances that are what lead MMA fighters to all have spotty records, but he didn't lose when others would. The W is there, no matter what.

Agreed.

Some of the best MMA fighters get massive hype off of 8 or 9 win streaks. Fedor has won 20 plus. The list of people he beat is outstanding. Fedor may not be an invincible machine, but he is the most mentally prepared fighter I've ever seen. Every time he has looked human, he has kept his wits and come out with the win. The man has never, ever, legitimately lost.

If Freddie Roach didn't coach Pacquiao and run his mouth constantly, no one would have given a crap about Arlovski's boxing, and this thread would be a different beast. In the end, all the angles Roach ran his mouth about didn't mean a damn when you run right into an iron curtain of a right.

 

[EviLore]

 

[jakershaker]

He was losing in the sense that if you stopped the fight at 2 minutes, the judge's decision would go to Arlovski. But the first two minutes basically amounted to two fighters getting a feel for one another. I didn't see anything that made me thought either was going to lose. I'm not sure what Arlovski was thinking. I think he got excited after he had backed Fedor into the ropes. But just 'cuz you someone's against the ropes and their guard is half-down doesn't mean you go in for a flying knee.

Yeah I know it doesn't matter if AA looked good or not as who wins the fight wins it however it is done. But I'll stick to my opinion that AA looked good, and I think a defensive gameplan with no or close to no mistakes is the way to beat Fedor. Doesn't seem like you can really hurt him so getting a decisions is the best way to go.

I kind of want too see Mir vs Fedor, Mir looked pretty sharp against Nog. Probably not good enough but could be a fun fight, too bad UFC and Fedor doesn't mix. And who doesn't want to see Fedor armbar Brock

*Edit*

Evillore said it good too. Thats why I'm not sure going after Fedor when he's hurt is such a good idea, the man always seem to be ready for counters. So just have a tight and defensive gameplan, follow it through, no mistakes. Boring but seems to be the only way to have a chance at Fedor. And keep it standing up ^^

 

[iddqd]

i wonder if Arlovski will go to boxing now.
He never had a ground game and i think it would be a nice thing.

And i was shocked at the Lindland KO. SHOCKED!

 

[nightez]

It seems people have you forgotten Fedor vs Mark Hunt? Hunt dominated Fedor more than Arlosvki did. Even Choi gave Fedor a hard time.

But what makes Fedor GREAT is his ability to very quickly turn around bad situations and come out with a victory. Thats what makes him the best.


...

 

[vpance]

And i was shocked at the Lindland KO. SHOCKED!

Lindland KO was nasty. His leg was twitching and he looked almost dead. I'm disappointed by the ref too. Someone needed to step in 2 punches earlier to stop that. I think Herb or BJM would've.

AA looked good, but I still think he's got a bit of a suspect chin. I started to worry a bit when Fedor wiped his face with his own shirt walking out to the ring though..

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

 

[vpance]

Fedor says he felt he didnt take too much damage from AA.

“As far as any punches that Andrei landed, I think all of them were just glancing blows and thy really didn’t hit me on the button and I didn’t feel them too much,”

“Just based on feeling myself in the ring, I felt it was an even fight up to the point when I knocked him out,” said Emelianenko. “When he began his attack, he would open up a little bit. I had a feeling that he was going to make a mistake and I was just waiting to capitalize.”

The right hand, which created a 180-degree arch through the air, was instinctual, he said.

“There’s certain techniques that I practiced and worked on and certain scenarios and this is one of the scenarios that I anticipated,” said Emelianenko. “When that scenario came up, I knew the right thing to do was to go with the right.”

http://sherdog.com/news/articles/arlovski-regrets-flashy-move-fedor-calls-first-round-even-15927

The guy is just prepared, it's all instinct!

 

[SnakeXs]

Watching the momentum in Arlovski's knee come to a halt at the moment of the KO is crazy.

 

[sefskillz]

Should we tack WEC 38 onto this thread too?

 

[Hunter D]

Mirko got the best of several big exchanges and battered Fedor's face, Fujita nearly dropped him and left him unbalanced for minutes, Randleman landed the most insane suplex ever on him, Hunt was pretty close to a kimura on him, Coleman took him down (lol, yes, but that's his entire gameplan so I'll list it), Schilt locked away his ground and pound with absurd grip strength, Nog took took his very best shots with barely any effect and was impossible to submit, Hong Man Choi overpowered him, Arona negated his grappling, and Arlovski's boxing stopped his momentum cold.

For all the hype and hyperbole, Fedor is not an invincible machine. What separates him from every other fighter is not invulnerability or that he's really Optimus Prime, it's that he was placed in all these types of inevitable, difficult circumstances that are what lead MMA fighters to all have spotty records, but he didn't lose when others would. The W is there, no matter what.

This I can agree with. The guy just adapts so well.

 

[dem]

That is one strange KO
Looked like Arlovski barely got hit..


Terrible glass jaw on Andre.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Should we tack WEC 38 onto this thread too?

oh shit thanks for reminding me!

 

[yacobod]

i thought the ppv was pretty good, the production was improved from the first affliction event last july

tito was awful on the mic tho, get him out of the booth and back in the ring

vitor's KO of lindland was sick
barnett looked like shit, he will get tooled by fedor
and fedor was fedor, awesome KO, arlovski looked good for 2-3 minutes

i think its nice that fedor keeps on winning, its awesome to have a guy in mma that consistently wins the big fights, even the best guys like GSP, anderson silva, rampage all have losses on their records, but fedor keeps on winning