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[angrod14]

I really don't want to live in a world where I'm constantly wondering if what I'm seeing is AI-generated or not. It removes all the charm to me.

I want pictures to be taken by photographers. Paintings to be paint by painters. Music to be made by musicians. Games to be made by artists. I like to wander inside game levels and admire all the attention to detail that's within them. All the design choices that had to be made, the purpose behind every single object. It's the passion behind the craft. A machine would never do that. Fuck that shit.

Computers have their place of course, they're good for mechanical and binary tasks. But please don't relegate creative output to a fucking Terminator.

 

[LazyParrot]

I mean, theoretically even the heat death of the universe is months away.

 

[Bernoulli]

Instead of the very neutral versions that we get now I love the idea of different chat bots with specific personas. Extremely passive aggressive lady bot, far right hillbilly bot, I want to talk to the manager dissatisfied Karen bot, sexual innuendo bot, etc. That would be amazing!

You can do that by telling him to act that way

 

[Perrott]

You kidding? Have you ever read Enders game?

Imagine you’re playing an elder scrolls esque fantasy game - but you can do literally anything, go into any building, interact with any object - have long drawn out stories with any npc, and it will create all this on the fly, uniquely for you - maybe you’ll find some hidden thing in the game that will tranform it completely build a spaceship that will take you to a different planet. You will be able to interact to such a degree that it will mimic real life interactivity - because it will generate the detail on the fly. And before you say the stories will be shitty - they won’t. Just look at the difference between what Bethesda uses to create emergent quests and storylines Chat GPT can create right now. Given the right parameters it can definitely hit the beats of a typical video game story right now. In 10 years? It will be indistinguishable.

Now all these merging together into a realtime thing is a bit away - but these are the seeds, it will definitely be possible someday.

That sounds incredibly lame and you'd have to be suffering from severe brain damage in order to prefer that shit over a meticulously crafted blockbuster like Red Dead Redemption 2.

Don't answer back.

 

[kungfuian]

You can do that by telling him to act that way

Well I guess I've been using it wrong this whole time. Time to step up my prompts game. Hilly Billy Bot here I come.

 

[Zelduh]

You guys are starting to sound like ResetEra with the fearmongering about AI taking yer jerbs, they're crying and shitting about it currently too lol

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

With Sweet Baby and AI games, my wallet is thanking me big time. More time to spend with backlog or another Dark Souls/Elden Ring run.

 

[Bernoulli]

Well I guess I've been using it wrong this whole time. Time to step up my prompts game. Hilly Billy Bot here I come.

Here is an example asking ti explain what game pass

Oh honey, buckle up because Xbox Game Pass is the ultimate slayground for all you fabulous gamers! It's like having a fierce, rainbow-colored key to unlock a glittery treasure trove of games – from sassy shooters to glam adventures. Get ready to sashay through a fabulous lineup, honey! It's not just a pass; it's a VIP entrance to a gaming extravaganza that's more fabulous than a pride parade! Werk it, gamer queen!

 

[Balducci30]

That sounds incredibly lame and you'd have to be suffering from severe brain damage in order to prefer that shit over a meticulously crafted blockbuster like Red Dead Redemption 2.

Don't answer back.

it’s funny you mention RDR2 because it’s basically the closest thing available to what I was describing. Its strengths are its simulations, the depth of interaction and side characters and its story. You would have all that x1000.

 

[Red5]

This would be a copyright nightmare for big studios and they would end up suing each other and artists and photographers suing them back and forth. Studios prefer to make work they can safely copyright and call their own.

 

[Buggy Loop]

You guys are starting to sound like ResetEra with the fearmongering about AI taking yer jerbs, they're crying and shitting about it currently too lol

I mean it doesn’t take much imagination to know it’ll likely end up dystopian. There’s not much we can do to prevent it but there ain’t rainbows and just happy happy joy joy thoughts for everyone with this

Dreamworks CEO predicts massive layoffs

https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/s/Ym259UN7LD

 

[Red5]

I mean it doesn’t take much imagination to know it’ll likely end up dystopian. There’s not much we can do to prevent it but there ain’t rainbows and just happy happy joy joy thoughts for everyone with this

Dreamworks CEO predicts massive layoffs

https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/s/Ym259UN7LD

Yep, AI will make a lot of office computer jobs redundant, massive layoffs.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

To me it looks like this tech could do wonders for FMV games and I'm all for it.

 

[Buggy Loop]

To me it looks like this tech could do wonders for FMV games and I'm all for it.

And PORN

Quest 6 - Open Sora VR - create custom infinite porn

Total society collapse, no more sex between peoples, save motherfucking Earth.

Years later peoples are buying tanks that keep their vitals up and running to stay in the VR world, eventually only coming out to clean the buckets of cum that almost drowned you

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Total society collapse, no more sex between peoples, save motherfucking Earth.

So no different from what is happening already across the world? If the government wants more people they need to collapse the society to middle ages.

 

[mnkl13]

for sure there will be nothing more after that. if you can have ai writing a script and making a film/game out of it within a few seconds, with an infinity of possibilities, with whatever visuals, wherever you are, in real time, no downloads. isn't that reaching the limits? is it going to be fun or boring?

 

[Red5]

for sure there will be nothing more after that. if you can have ai writing a script and making a film/game out of it within a few seconds, with an infinity of possibilities, with whatever visuals, wherever you are, in real time, no downloads. isn't that reaching the limits? is it going to be fun or boring?

Well next step might be AR, having an AI projecting AR scenarios on the fly and changing with voice commands, similar to Star Trek Holodeck but without the sensory feedback unless you wear patches.

 

[StereoVsn]

Its going to be harder and harder to actually have a skill that makes you fucking money. AI just going to replace everything. Fucking ridiculous. You think its hard to make a living now, wait til AI eliminates every goddamn fucking job/hustle on the planet. I will not cheer about this.

Yep, people cheering this are not thinking through social ramifications. Tens of millions of jobs will be lost, most of them permanently. Governments are not prepared to deal with it.

I do use variety of chat bots and models for my job, and it’s going to be pretty scary from labor perspective already in couple of years.

In IT industry, juniors are going hit hardest first as their jobs are going to be the easiest to emulate by AI, and then cut. They will kill incoming labor pipelines.

Elsewhere jobs from long haul truckers to clerks to paralegals and so on will disappear. But sure, let’s celebrate games coming out quicker with even worse art direction and writing.

 

[StereoVsn]

You guys are starting to sound like ResetEra with the fearmongering about AI taking yer jerbs, they're crying and shitting about it currently too lol

It’s not fear mongering though. It’s a major shift akin to Industrial Revolution or computer age hitting. Except there is no other industry to draw workers into.

 

[eats]

Not to dismiss the differences in complexity, because what you are saying is a valid point, but you have to think about the time frames and trajectory of the whole thing.

We've gone from translating text to high quality image generation all the way to text to high quality video, with realistic physics, basically over night. I don't think it's a far stretch to think the next evolution of this tech is text to the creation of full 3d worlds with rule sets, objectives, etc. I.E. games.

You can't even really get what you want from prompt generations right now with any real precision though. Use on of these to make me a picture of a guy riding a motorcycle swinging a chain menacingly. I'll wait.


Chatgpt is better than the image stuff, but it also collapses on a lot of complex problems where you want something specific.

 

[sachos]

wait til AI eliminates every goddamn fucking job/hustle on the planet. I will not cheer about this.

I totally get you. Another point of view is that AGI is what finally liberates us from having to work for a living, where work is so cheap and easy that products are cheap too. The closest thing we will get to a post scarcity economy. We have to start talking about UBI and stuff like that while voting accordingly. Sounds way too utopic i know but if governments do nothing about it then yeah, chaos ensues.

 

[K' Dash]

Unluckily I think they still can current AIs are heavily influenced by DEI as can be seen through their responses. It will also be a matter of time that photo and video generated through the same will get the same treatment

I can run Large Language Models on my laptop, been experimenting with uncensored LLMs and it works. You can actually create your own version of many AI tools like copilot and run it locally, the only issue is the RAM, you need a lot of RAM to run the 70B models that are GPT like. Surely they can use uncensored models and create whatever the fuck they want.

 

[Audiophile]

And PORN

Quest 6 - Open Sora VR - create custom infinite porn

Total society collapse, no more sex between peoples, save motherfucking Earth.

Years later peoples are buying tanks that keep their vitals up and running to stay in the VR world, eventually only coming out to clean the buckets of cum that almost drowned you

The sign of the end times for all civilisations, buckets of cum. Just buckets of cum everywhere..

Like all the trash in Wall-E, but it's buckets of cum.

 

[consoul]

AI will disrupt almost everything, but videogames are not going to be one of the earliest targets. As others have said, this is video, not an interactive 3D scene.

Sora-like tech will be making TV commercials in months, not videogames.

The kind of videogames you could make with this particular technology would be Quantic Dream/Supermassive type games that are basically choose your own adventure cutscene games.

Whether you want to cheer for generative AI or not is irrelevant. It's happening and there is no stopping it. All you can do now is adjust.

 

[hyperbertha]

AI will disrupt almost everything, but videogames are not going to be one of the earliest targets. As others have said, this is video, not an interactive 3D scene.

Sora-like tech will be making TV commercials in months, not videogames.

The kind of videogames you could make with this particular technology would be Quantic Dream/Supermassive type games that are basically choose your own adventure cutscene games.

Whether you want to cheer for generative AI or not is irrelevant. It's happening and there is no stopping it. All you can do now is adjust.

There is stopping it. Lawsuits ahoy. As long as copyright stands, these companies can't win.

 

[WitchHunter]

I really don't want to live in a world where I'm constantly wondering if what I'm seeing is AI-generated or not. It removes all the charm to me.

I want pictures to be taken by photographers. Paintings to be paint by painters. Music to be made by musicians. Games to be made by artists. I like to wander inside game levels and admire all the attention to detail that's within them. All the design choices that had to be made, the purpose behind every single object. It's the passion behind the craft. A machine would never do that. Fuck that shit.

Computers have their place of course, they're good for mechanical and binary tasks. But please don't relegate creative output to a fucking Terminator.

Ai, machines and all kinds of artificial life forms should be always subordinated to humans.

Whether you want to cheer for generative AI or not is irrelevant. It's happening and there is no stopping it. All you can do now is adjust.

Look, how the weaklings applaud something that might give them powers/skill they don't have or were too lazy to practice or spend money on. Too bad if everyone has access it will be the same pyramid all over again, just the wealth gained will be concentrated in the hands of even fewer individuals and of course the creative people will be robbed of their skill. ML in its current, unregulated form is a trojan horse. It's the unregulated Uber vs regulated taxi companies all over again.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

If programmers dont want to do it themselves, then maybe AI can do it..... procedure generated maps in FPS. Just image how much cooler maps can be if you take a classic map like Terminal in COD and AI does it's work to do variants on the map so every match has a slightly different layout or look, including day/night.

Or the shooter game lets you make some AI-made maps for online or offline play.

I dont know if AI can do this stuff, but you always read about how making games with procedure/random map layouts are supposed to be really hard for programmers to get right. Maybe AI can do it well and fast.

 

[justiceiro]

The only tangible effect we will actually reach is that our characters customization will also appear on the CGI cinematics.

 

[CGNoire]

for sure there will be nothing more after that. if you can have ai writing a script and making a film/game out of it within a few seconds, with an infinity of possibilities, with whatever visuals, wherever you are, in real time, no downloads. isn't that reaching the limits? is it going to be fun or boring?

Boring guranteed. Its just how are brains work. People acting like this is some entertainment utopian moment are in for a brutal awakening.

 

[Represent.]

You guys are starting to sound like ResetEra with the fearmongering about AI taking yer jerbs, they're crying and shitting about it currently too lol

You'd have to be an idiot to see all of this tech, and then sit there and say, "dont worry guys, nothing to worry about, you sound like ree". you probably work in an industry where it doesnt effect you... yet. sound like you're speaking from a privileged POV. Wait til this shit starts to threaten how YOU make money and provide for your kids

 

[PonyStation4]

Also :

Very good at saying wrong things in a convincing manner.

No shit I was wrong. I am SO sorry.

What in the actual fuck.

Can't wait for AIs to pilot our planes.

Is this ChatGPT 3 or 4?

 

[Aces High]

Yep, AI will make a lot of office computer jobs redundant, massive layoffs.

Here's what ChatGPT4 has to say about this:

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In the ongoing debate about the impact of Artificial Intelligence (AI) on the job market and corporate landscapes, it's important to look at both the short-term and medium-term outlooks. Initially, we might witness AI leading to layoffs within large corporations, especially in sectors where tasks are repetitive or highly standardized. This could notably affect industries like manufacturing, accounting, customer service, and even certain aspects of software development.

However, the medium-term effects could paint a different picture, one of "de-corporatization," where small businesses might not only level the playing field with international conglomerates but could, in some cases, gain a competitive edge. Here are a few reasons why:

1. **Accessibility of Technology**: The democratization of AI tools, which were once exclusive to large corporations, allows small businesses to harness powerful capabilities. Cloud-based services and AI-as-a-Service models enable startups and SMEs to access advanced technologies without significant upfront investment in infrastructure.

2. **Agility and Adaptability**: Smaller companies often have the advantage of being more nimble and responsive to market changes. AI can empower them to develop and deploy custom solutions for specific challenges more swiftly than their larger counterparts, which might be bogged down by bureaucratic processes.

3. **Innovation and Specialization**: AI enables small teams to create highly specialized products and services that can compete with or even surpass those of large corporations. By focusing on niche markets, small businesses can offer innovative solutions that might be overlooked by bigger players.

4. **Decentralization of Work**: Technologies like AI and blockchain are facilitating a move towards decentralized work environments. This shift allows for efficient remote collaboration, fostering the rise of telecommuting, freelancing, and distributed companies that aren't tied to the traditional structures and locations of large corporations.

While this potential shift towards "de-corporatization" comes with its set of challenges—such as data privacy, ethical considerations, regulatory needs, and skill development—it represents a significant opportunity for innovation and democratization in the business world. However, it's crucial to address the potential for increased economic and social inequality, ensuring that access to and the ability to leverage AI technologies are broadly distributed.

In conclusion, the evolution of the corporate and entrepreneurial landscape in the age of AI will heavily depend on how technology is implemented and the frameworks established to encourage innovation while mitigating adverse effects. It's a pivotal moment that calls for thoughtful discussion and strategic planning across all sectors of society.

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This post aims to foster a balanced discussion on the implications of AI, highlighting both the opportunities and challenges ahead.

 

[nkarafo]

This was a year ago



This is Sora today

https://cdn.openai.com/tmp/s/simulation_5.mp4

1 year...

Anyone thinking that this won't be a paradigm shift in gaming is basically a caveman at this point.

This AI knows the physics and how the world should react and look like, it knows its presence in a physical world.

2025~26, first AI game will be made.

Now I wouldn't even be shocked if that is not what Microsoft was referring to.

The Will Smith video is far more creepy, weird, interesting and artistic. I never saw anything like this despite humans making cgi stuff and art for decades now.

The other video is just some guy eating. Sure, it looks "correct" but anybody could film that.

So it's not about seeing something new and fascinating, it's about seeing the same old boring shit, just without making the effort to produce it ourselves. I guess that's a revolution too.

 

[Techies]

There is stopping it. Lawsuits ahoy. As long as copyright stands, these companies can't win.

Then China is going to have a massive advantage.

 

[Aces High]

This is how ChatGPT sees himself replacing human video game developers:

Bonus:

Spoiler

 

[Shadowplay1979]

If you think future games will benefit from one person having the complete control over an entire triple A level idea...you also think Neil Breen is the greatest filmmaker that ever lived. Get ready to see lots of "idea people" finally get their way...ie endless trash.

Also as for artists....saying "sucks for artists" is putting it lightly. For instance, i only live where i live because i spent the last twenty years, including living through homelessness, working towards doing this for a living, if i lose my job, my only real livelihood...i also will no longer have any ability to live where i live because of visa rules. I have no family and nowhere to go back in the states ( and dont want to ever live anywhere else then where i am). So yea ...for some of us its a little more then "sucks for artists". Theres a good chance it has already affected one of our main publishers which is casuing a chain reaction which may effect my current employment.

 

[magnumpy]

WTF

back in my day, computers made beeping noises and showed RESPECT

 

[N1tr0sOx1d3]

Has AI considered hiring Cliffy B to bring forth the next Billion dollar franchise?

 

[KungFucius]

AI requires a lot of human interaction, and not all jobs can even incorporate AI. I wouldn't get so worried about it. Prepare, yes. Retrain. Dooming about it won't help anyone.

It is a problem and our shitty attitude of letting people and their skills be labeled as obsolete and laid off without significant consequences will lead to a lot of suffering. You can't retrain when you are still working a full time job. I mean most can't. Some people like me are in roles where they are constantly retraining. This is hard because others don't catch on as quickly. People who have written software for a decade or more when given requirements aren't all going to be good at writing requirements for AI to create more software than they could ever write by themselves. Those in highly regulated industries like defense and healthcare will be safe for the time being, but when the bottom line is the most important factor, a shit ton of jobs are going to be lost. People graduating today with a coding degree likely started learning when they were in public school. They invested a lot of their time learning something their parents thought would ensure them success. Now they have to compete for a dwindling level of jobs or, as you say, retrain. On whose dollar? These are people who likely used student loans to finance a degree and now the job market will look nothing like what it was 4 years ago. Millions will be in this position.

Look it is a fascinating tech. It does a lot of the shit that is easy but takes a lot of time to do manually. It is just another form of automation. But anyone who thinks it will not be painful for a lot of people is going to have to rethink that when data shows otherwise.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

In the future people will be able to come up with an idea and bring it to life without relying on other people.

 

[Red5]

If you think future games will benefit from one person having the complete control over an entire triple A level idea...you also think Neil Breen is the greatest filmmaker that ever lived. Get ready to see lots of "idea people" finally get their way...ie endless trash.

Also as for artists....saying "sucks for artists" is putting it lightly. For instance, i only live where i live because i spent the last twenty years, including living through homelessness, working towards doing this for a living, if i lose my job, my only real livelihood...i also will no longer have any ability to live where i live because of visa rules. I have no family and nowhere to go back in the states ( and dont want to ever live anywhere else then where i am). So yea ...for some of us its a little more then "sucks for artists". Theres a good chance it has already affected one of our main publishers which is casuing a chain reaction which may effect my current employment.

Agreed fully, saying sucks for anyone affected by this shows an extreme lack of empathy as if their jobs are safe.

AI revolution is unlike all the previous industrial and computer revolutions. Farmers migrated to cities and turned into laborers and factory workers during the industrialization, laborers and factory workers raised their sons to be computer engineers and programmers in the computer revolution. AI simply wipes away a large swath of jobs without providing a replacement job market, deskills Human labor force, rendering skills cultivated through decades and in the case of arts hundreds of years obsolete and concentrates that power and skill in the hands of mega corporations like Microsoft.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

This had always been the plan; to lower development costs by having the computer creating the details for you. Studios asked for this, because the art asset production is blowing up the budget.

I mean i would believe it when i see a good game made using it, but the idea is to make games faster than the 5 years it currently takes. We can't afford to pay an army of artists for games. The industry can't support it.

 

[Aces High]

In the future people will be able to come up with an idea and bring it to life without relying on other people.

Exactly.

Instead of spending countless hours to create a single artwork, the artist can utilize AI to create dozens of artworks in 5 minutes and chose the one that is best suited for the job.

With AI, everyone gets promoted to a management position.

Instead of a single big company with thousands of employees we will have many smaller companies where a small team of experts manage AI.

 

[RaySoft]

This thread is full of people who think an AI generated video of Minecraft is the same as Minecraft the 3d game running on your PC. The two are not alike.

If Ai is going to change game development, you’ll need AI tools that for example generate complete 3D models from text input and ready to use in Unreal Engine. A video of that 3D model is useless.

You need to think bigger... Replace your GPU with an NPU and the game would spit out video based on your controller inputs. Like streaming, but the game isn't rasterized, it's generated.

 

[Three]

You need to think bigger... Replace your GPU with an NPU and the game would spit out video based on your controller inputs. Like streaming, but the game isn't rasterized, it's generated.

It's possible but we're nowhere near doing this in realtime yet.

 

[RaySoft]

Nonsense, just like the op. The current tech isn't ai. You'll get remixed stuff from things that already exist. Nothing new. There are only negatives in the long run.

Every human art is also based on something created earlier if you break it down enough. What you see today is just the tip of the iceberg.
The AI models are trained with limited data deliberately. When AI can train itself on every data available, you would see more what we call imagination compared to what you refer as "copy/paste" of today.

 

[RaySoft]

It's possible but we're nowhere near doing this in realtime yet.

Nobody is saying that either, but to reach graphics 100% comparable to real life, this would probably be the way to achieve that eventually.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

You need to think bigger... Replace your GPU with an NPU and the game would spit out video based on your controller inputs. Like streaming, but the game isn't rasterized, it's generated.

That just sounds like a Rogue-like game stretched to its logical extreme. This has appeal to a certain gamer type, but I prefer curation and fixed maps.

I would rather that AI be used to create experiences that can be selected fo and decided by a human, who had a goal in mind. Then that game would have the same experience for every customer. Palworld is fixed and is the reason people can talk about the world with each other. If everything is random then you can't share tips or maps.

For example, a game by Hideo Kojima would have his vision of what he wanted. Even if he has AI assistance he would still be the one to decide on how the game would progress. Personal taste is personal.

 

[nbcjr]

Yep, people cheering this are not thinking through social ramifications. Tens of millions of jobs will be lost, most of them permanently. Governments are not prepared to deal with it.

I do use variety of chat bots and models for my job, and it’s going to be pretty scary from labor perspective already in couple of years.

In IT industry, juniors are going hit hardest first as their jobs are going to be the easiest to emulate by AI, and then cut. They will kill incoming labor pipelines.

Elsewhere jobs from long haul truckers to clerks to paralegals and so on will disappear. But sure, let’s celebrate games coming out quicker with even worse art direction and writing.

I'm with musk. Development on ai should be halted. Problem is that China probably wouldn't enforce a halt.

 

[Three]

Nobody is saying that either, but to reach graphics 100% comparable to real life, this would probably be the way to achieve that eventually.

According to who you replied to a lot of people are thinking that the Minecraft Sora video and Minecraft running on your PC is the same thing. There are massive hurdles though.