Been wondering if AoS will come across better on a rewatch like that. There doesn't feel like a lot is happening from episode to episode. Especially in the beginning. However back to back viewings without commercial breaks might give a different impression. I kinda want to buy the season set to see unless they'll all be up for streaming at some point.
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Been wondering if AoS will come across better on a rewatch like that. There doesn't feel like a lot is happening from episode to episode. Especially in the beginning. However back to back viewings without commercial breaks might give a different impression. I kinda want to buy the season set to see unless they'll all be up for streaming at some point.
I'm probably over-reacting but I feel like I've been bludgeoned with the mention of her that her being cast isn't a big deal to me (beyond her actress, anyways).
TacticalFox88
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So how likely is it that Ward's secret love is Skye?
I really, really, REALLY don't want it to be Skye
George Oscar Bluth II
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Tumblr swoons.
EDIT: Actually explodes.
EDIT 2: Actually, AoS probably isn't that popular anyway. Probably a small explosion.
GuitarAtomik
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Did anyone post this yet? iO9 is saying the blue alien is
It's from a red carpet interview so I don't know how legit that is.
Kree.....
She seems popular on GAF. You could say we are rooting for her.
Duh.
That imdb episode #2 drop is hilarious (and also completely deserved, ep was awful.)
I don't know if it's improving so much as diving more into the Marvel lore. I'm not a comic guy, so there's very little for me to enjoy because the characters themselves are fairly poor and the stories themselves aren't very interesting without the Marvel background, which I don't have.
Wow, it's not even popular on Tumblr.
I generally don't give a crap about the fanservice. They've had better consistency in the mid-section of the season with a few genuinely good eps. (mostly the SHIELD-focused ones like the Academy.) Stuff like Ep2 and that stupid ghost/phasing ep were absurdly bad.
They still have a major problem with utterly stupid plot points/character decisions (The Raft sealing a hole in Ep2, sending ANY male agents after Lorelai) though, which is 100% on the showrunners.
It's a show (primarily) for dudes on a network where almost everything else is aimed at females. That's been a problem.
I've been trying to keep up on and off, and I really just can't bring myself to care about any of these people or their stories. And the show is making up with that my excessive fanservice to try to hide the fact that it's not very good.
Dunno. I don't like being negative. But I just have too many problems with this series. Thanks, Jeph.
I'm not convinced the problem ends with him, either (too many echoes of Dollhouse's issues, without Big Bro Whedon there to course-correct.)
eastx
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Most people's favorite episode so far didn't look interesting to you?
dead souls
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As someone who used to read a ton of Marvel comics back in the day (I still have about a half dozen or so longboxes in my basement full of them), being a huge fan of the universe isn't helping any IMO. Like you correctly point out the characters and stories are poor and the show will always be hamstrung by that until they sort it out (if they even have the ability to).
Nah, it's mostly his fault from what I've gathered.
Father_Brain
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I still generally enjoy the show, but yes, it's absolutely true that it can only occasionally make me care more about the six characters that it's ostensibly about than about fanboy questions like how the show will tie into TWS or when/whether more canon Marvel characters will appear. If I weren't a sucker for the MCU, I would probably have quit watching a while back.
(If the fanservice were actually "excessive," BTW, I'd probably be enjoying it more. It's only recently even started doing the kinds of Easter eggs that Arrow throws in all the time.)
Any chance you can elaborate? I still have to hold out hope for the Netflix series...
How many pics of high-level execs and farm animals does he currently possess? Seems like it must be a pretty high number.
Any chance you can elaborate? I still have to hold out hope for the Netflix series...
To specify, I think Jed and Mo are very talented writers. I've known people who have worked with them and they sing their praises in terms of their ability to construct long term story and smaller character moments. This isn't their show. They are not accomplished showrunners. They are put on the back burner by people like Jeph and Jeff Bell. Those are the two who, unfortunately, have the most creative sway on the show. There's very little you can do when your directive is "make a comic book show a mom and her son can watch and then they can fist bump after it's over!"
Also, there is literally one or two smart execs at ABC the network. Not even a hyperbole.
Affeinvasion
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It's totally Fitz. They shared a sandwich together (well not really).
Father_Brain
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As someone who (for some reason) obsessively follows news and interviews about this show, it's absolutely ridiculous how much better Whedon B and Tancharoen come off in interviews than Bell or Loeb. They may not be making all the right decisions, but they're humble, seem to understand where critics are coming from (even if they can't get specific in this regard), and convey the impression that they're at least trying to do the best they can within the constraints that ABC and Marvel have imposed.
Loeb and Bell, though... whenever they touch the subject of criticism, their responses almost invariably reek with a combination of arrogance, entitlement, defensiveness, and strawman arguments.
It's the fact that it was supposed to be this little tidbit from the Avengers about how Coulson has a life outside of S.H.I.E.L.D., and that every time it's mentioned it becomes just a little less special and more of a plot point.
If you make a show for everybody you make a show for nobody.
It's a good life lesson, honestly.
fallengorn
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So we can officially start raising our pitchforks at Loeb and Bell?
I know, but I don't think it's been too forced. That was his last relationship before dying and apparently it was an important one.
It makes sense to reference, but it sticks out like a sore thumb (as any other thing they mention.) It doesn't help that they have to say cellist since that's the one big fact about her anyone remembers.
I know, but I don't think it's been too forced. That was his last relationship before dying and apparently it was an important one.
It makes sense to reference, but it sticks out like a sore thumb (as any other thing they mention.) It doesn't help that they have to say cellist since that's the one big fact about her anyone remembers.
Having absurdly stupid plotting at times while showcasing some pretty graphic gore has led me to think it's one they don't quite grasp.
"Family-Friendly" doesn't mean "Written at a third grade level." But many assume the latter.
:-(
Don't worry, they'll probably be too busy ruining Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage to focus on messing up this show.
Razgriz-Specter
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Ha. SHIELD is the crown jewel because it'll make them oodles more money than any of those. That'll be Marvel (and Loeb's) main focus.
But Chuck had that delicious Subway money.
I miss Chuck...loved that show.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Pft, it'll be a one episode guest spot, I bet.
I stopped watching a while back with this in mind even though I was already enjoying it at that point. I just prefer to marathon shows whenever possible. Almost anything will be better when viewed that way.
Razgriz-Specter
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Well first of all Lady Sif is not Z tier, and secondly you never should expect Thor or whomever appearing on the show, thirdly, the show has been improving pretty much since inception and there have been more recent good episodes than just the Lady Sif appearance.
Alcoremortis
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I gotta say, Amy plays creepy stalker better than any actress I can think of off the top of my head.
I'm suddenly terrified of this cellist.
I'm suddenly terrified of this cellist.
I can vouch for this. Since I started watching it, and then got two friends to start watching it. We basically watched episode 1 took a break and then met up another night and watched all the way until episode 8. Not only did I enjoy every episode a lot more but they both got pretty into the Coulson Resurrection mystery and ask me when there are a slew of new episodes for us to watch. It went from the three of us watching it post DnD to everyone including my girlfriend, even though she thinks the show is really dumb, she is still watching it, and even our friends who just made fun of it before are now sticking around to watch new eps.
Razgriz-Specter
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probably would.
Thats one of the huge problems with the show, slow pacing and terrible scheduling.
Only 15 episodes yet it feels like we have been watching this one season forever.
On the other hand shows like POI and Arrow feels like a shock that we are 18 and 16 episodes in.
I will give it a second opinion when I do this after S1 ends.
Byakuya769
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I'm saying both look like shit. You can debate which is shittier.
dead souls
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If you make a show for everybody you make a show for nobody.
I agree with that somewhat but I don't think that explains why SHIELD is a creative failure.
I can imagine a family friendly procedural set in the Marvel universe that I would enjoy. I think it's the execution that's lacking here not necessarily the idea behind the show.
Father_Brain
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Too many cooks isn't related to poor execution?
Like how she says "The alien is a Kree, like we all know".
I know that was the assumption, but was it actually confirmed anywhere before this?
And of course, where there are Kree, there are Skrulls. Come on!
Rafa=FedKilla
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She also plays cute and kawaii well in Lifetime movie Dear Santa.
I told ya'll brahs that Jeph Loeb is the greatest cancer that Marvel possess. He needs to have been fired four years ago, but Marvel will never do that. Brah is DC's most potent weapon.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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What does Jeph Loeb have on them?
Rafa=FedKilla
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To be frank and I mean this in the most respectable way possible. Jeph Loeb has never been the same aknce his son died of cancer. It's pretty much which defines him these days. He's been down ever since and Marvel ain't going to kick him. He reworked nova for god's sake into the likeness of his son across all media and only lasted five issues on yje comic after making it seem like it was his life's work. It was the plan all along, yeah sure.
His TV resume is Smallville/Heroes. He's getting the gig because he has connections/experience, but its not in making shows that have gone over well with the public critically (or in raw viewer numbers.)
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