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Last episode was easily the best one, and atleast has convinced me to stay with this show a bit longer. I don't know where these "goofy" criticisms are coming from, especially considering the Marvel movies themselves are largely action/adventure/comedies.
 
This last episode (just watched it / hulu) was the series' Out of Gas (Lite). Took the whole show to another level... and I was already liking the direction its been heading.

As a biologist (legitimate professional), however, I was almost offended. Thankfully I can see past that surface stuff and relish in the drama/dy.
 
PentinantTangent said:
Just watched Iron Man 2, and I still don't get all the hate it gets. I thought it was fine. Someone explain it to me?
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When the movie came out it was pretty disappointing that so much of it was spent on Fury/SHIELD rather than the underdeveloped villains and conflicts in the film. It didn't have the payoff that The Avengers would bring until a couple years later.
 
The last episode was indeed the best of this first season so far.

No idea what all the whining is about. It's a great show. Weird to see so many still hating on it.
 
I'm glad it was fixed but please be careful of spoilers :(
I don't read comics at all and Thor 2 isn't out until FEBRUARY TWENTY-EIGHT in fucking Japan.

On topic, I'll definitely watch this season until the end, but it's not exactly the best show ever. Hope it picks up a bit...
 
Oh god, why do I keep watching this?
Oh right, because it's plot development in the universe of the movies.

In the latest episode
Simmons finally struggles into almost being a character, choosing to sacrifice herself for the team, (in vain it turns out because Fitz has worked out that their anti-serum works). Except she doesn't because she's saved by Ward's magical agent powers, and everyone in AFollowerNotALeader's flat pukes.

She should have died. Possibly, she should have had her phone ring in mid-air only for Fitz to tell her the serum worked (and for her to sob "I love you"), before she hit the sea, just to dial up (ho ho) the ensuing angst. But no. Plot device #423 comes into effect and everyone lives happily ever after.

Here's what's the problem with this show:

It is not funny, nor does it have characters who I like (except for Melinda May who is the saving grace of the series) nor does it have any sense of real peril. The only people who are in danger are disposable extras, which is a shame because they often have better character development than the main cast.

Agents of SHIELD features "normal people" going up against people with super powers, and the only people who die are the people with super powers. We could have had the X-Files meets Buffy and almost anywhere along that spectrum the show could have been awesome. Instead is feels like a low-budget Sci-fi edition of NCIS without the writing, humor or plot.

Also, urgh, technobabble.

And then of course I'm from a family of scientists.
The "biosciences" wing of my family (my youngest sister) would like to point out that any epidemiologist would have gotten a sample from the Chitauri *first*.

Cookie?
 
Toa TAK said:
You enjoyed it more for the Shield stuff? =(

I thought it kinda dropped the ball, especially considering how good the first Iron Man was.
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I guess I've been used to long over-arching narratives from Doctor Who, and as I knew it would lead into the Avengers, that made it fun for me to watch.
 
Dai101 said:
I'm sure only top management can have an LMD. Even if they don't know they can have one or realize they're one. That and dental plan.
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It seems strange that you'd trust anything to a robot, let alone care whether or not it finds out that it is one.

Why keep it around and reward it with it's own plane and team? That makes no sense.

anaron said:
New sneak peak

This is the kind of vibe I've been expecting and wanting from this show.
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Clark Gregg's brief moment of running amuses me.
 
I'm already dreading the Thor 2 tie-in episode. My guess is (Thor 2 spoiler)
Someone's going around taking advantage of residual gravitational anomalies
. That's the dullest thing I can think of.
 
AFollowerNotALeader said:
Oh god, why do I keep watching this?
Oh right, because it's plot development in the universe of the movies.

In the latest episode
Simmons finally struggles into almost being a character, choosing to sacrifice herself for the team, (in vain it turns out because Fitz has worked out that their anti-serum works). Except she doesn't because she's saved by Ward's magical agent powers, and everyone in AFollowerNotALeader's flat pukes.

She should have died. Possibly, she should have had her phone ring in mid-air only for Fitz to tell her the serum worked (and for her to sob "I love you"), before she hit the sea, just to dial up (ho ho) the ensuing angst. But no. Plot device #423 comes into effect and everyone lives happily ever after.

Here's what's the problem with this show:

It is not funny, nor does it have characters who I like (except for Melinda May who is the saving grace of the series) nor does it have any sense of real peril. The only people who are in danger are disposable extras, which is a shame because they often have better character development than the main cast.

Agents of SHIELD features "normal people" going up against people with super powers, and the only people who die are the people with super powers. We could have had the X-Files meets Buffy and almost anywhere along that spectrum the show could have been awesome. Instead is feels like a low-budget Sci-fi edition of NCIS without the writing, humor or plot.

Also, urgh, technobabble.

And then of course I'm from a family of scientists.
The "biosciences" wing of my family (my youngest sister) would like to point out that any epidemiologist would have gotten a sample from the Chitauri *first*.

Cookie?
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Why do you think you deserve a cookie for saying things about the show that people have been saying since the first episode?
 
I am very much enjoying this show. Jeffrey Bell's episode was my fave so far. Loved the eyeball surgery! Amador was a great guest star and i hope she becomes a recurring character. I thought the last one was really good too and was the best in terms of the ensemble starting to gel. Actually, i haven't disliked a single episode thus far. I guess i'm easy to please. :P

There are some moments of pure cheese every now and then that make me majorly eyeroll, mostly courtesy of Skye and Ward, but not enough to bring it down too much for me.
 
Joni said:
On the other hand, it is 12 million viewers behind NCIS. It might be #2 behind NCIS, but it is way behind NCIS just like the rest.
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NCIS built those numbers up. It was far from a runaway hit coming off of JAG. People want too much instant gratification and can't enjoy a show growing. That is why shows are getting canceled in their 3rd act of the pilots.
 
Spotless Mind said:
I am very much enjoying this show. Jeffrey Bell's episode was my fave so far. Loved the eyeball surgery! Amador was a great guest star and i hope she becomes a recurring character. I thought the last one was really good too and was the best in terms of the ensemble starting to gel. Actually, i haven't disliked a single episode thus far. I guess i'm easy to please. :P

There are some moments of pure cheese every now and then that make me majorly eyeroll, mostly courtesy of Skye and Ward, but not enough to bring it down too much for me.
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That's how I feel. On a basic level of entertainment I'm still enjoying it and finding things to keep me engaged. I'm nowhere bear comfortable calling it bad TV the way some people are. Definitely flawed and messy, but not BAD.
 
anaron said:
That's how I feel. On a basic level of entertainment I'm still enjoying it and finding things to keep me engaged. I'm nowhere bear comfortable calling it bad TV the way some people are. Definitely flawed and messy, but not BAD.
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Yeah, it still has a ways to go before i'd call it "great", but it's delivering about the level of action adventure campiness i was expecting of it. The characters just need to be a bit more defined and undergo some growth, but i have no doubt that is coming in future episodes.
 
anaron said:
That's how I feel. On a basic level of entertainment I'm still enjoying it and finding things to keep me engaged. I'm nowhere bear comfortable calling it bad TV the way some people are. Definitely flawed and messy, but not BAD.
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The first few eps were veering in a direction (80's action show) that just doesn't work anymore. They're going towards spy show (ALIAS) now which is an actual good direction.
 
kirblar said:
The first few eps were veering in a direction (80's action show) that just doesn't work anymore. They're going towards spy show (ALIAS) now which is an actual good direction.
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Definitely. I think tonal issue and voice + characterization are the largest hurdles right now. Gimme Marvel meets ALIAS and we're getting somewhere golden.
 
anaron said:
Definitely. I think tonal issue and voice + characterization are the largest hurdles right now. Gimme Marvel meets ALIAS and we're getting somewhere golden.
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They have to tone down the cutesieness. The show's working better when it's serious with good (SEDUCE HIM) humor mixed in at unexpected places. The biggest issue is that there's still no Macguffin driving the team's existence.
 
kirblar said:
They have to tone down the cutesieness. The show's working better when it's serious with good (SEDUCE HIM) humor mixed in at unexpected places. The biggest issue is that there's still no Macguffin driving the team's existence.
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stakes also need to be demonstrated in a believable way because no one is buying the threats being thrown at the team and the "risks" through that.
 
fallengorn said:
I'm already dreading the Thor 2 tie-in episode. My guess is (Thor 2 spoiler)
Someone's going around taking advantage of residual gravitational anomalies
. That's the dullest thing I can think of.
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Seems like a safe bet, I'm sure "The Well" is supposed to refer to
a gravity well
 
Interesting article via
Forbes:
'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' Is The Show It Was Always Going To Be

I don't necessarily agree with all of it (the praise is a little abundant) but these two quotes fall directly line with how I have viewed certain things:

S.H.I.E.L.D. had to be easily digestible, just like Iron Man was. This is our first outing with the MCU on a weekly basis and diving in with a hardcore comic book show would have always been a mistake. If Marvel had attempted a canon hero like Daredevil first and it was a failure, it would have cemented the fate of Marvel superheroes on the small screen. By taking it slow, by giving audiences a show based around an organization instead of a hero, Marvel’s able to test the waters for what works and what doesn’t. They can see how audiences respond to canon characters over original ones, if they like having less effect heavy stories over special effect extravaganzas,etc… And on top of all these behind the scenes realities, the show is good.

...

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is the show we were promised, and it’s the only show Marvel was ever going to give us for their first weekly series. Whether or not it’s what people thought they were getting is up for debate but the facts remain, given what we knew going in there was only one possible outcome and anything else was just wishful thinking. While it’s fun to think about the ultimate possibilities, like say a collection of dark, serialized programs produced by Netflix, the first outing had to be down to earth. It had to be familiar. It had to be what we got.
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I don't know who that character is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Skye looked pretty at the Thor 2 premier.
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anaron said:
Interesting article via
Forbes:
'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' Is The Show It Was Always Going To Be

I don't necessarily agree with all of it (the praise is a little abundant) but these two quotes fall directly line with how I have viewed certain things:
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Not a very good analysis. I think it's particularly fallacious in how it assumes that the impetus for the show's existence was all on Marvel's end, as though ABC didn't request and greenlight the Avengers spinoff while letting Marvel Television's other proposed live-action projects sit in development hell.
 
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spot on


I don't agree with with the Forbes article in the least. We didn't have to have this at all. Marvel/Disney could have made a great series expanding the MCU and introducing tons of new characters. Instead they forgot everything that made the movies great. A real attempt to bring the pages of the comics onto the big screen. AoS is a cheap and safe leech on the popularity of the movies.
 
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