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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S4 |OT| Ghost Riders in the Skye - Tuesdays 10/9c
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omg, the new logo
The third arc is gonna be majority in the Framework?!
Edit: Also got really excited seeing Brett. He's awesome.
Hours Left
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Looks like the next arc will be called Agents of Hydra.
I can't believe I actually want this dude back. Left perfectly before he got stale, and yet I'm still excited to see him back.
http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/agents-shield-delivers-trust-no-one-mystery-and-ne-250755
They damn well better give this episode an A. This is one of the few times where I'm fully expecting such a score lmao
Ward and Hive both had to die, they had to, but Brett Dalton is just so awesome one would just want him back in some capacity.
I'm much happier it's also in the Framework rather than a LMD.
He was my favorite on the show, is a damn changeling, he just does so much so well
Oh shit, we may get a genuinely good Ward this time
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Remember when we thought a simulated reality would just be a temporary one off to explain May's absence and now it's the basis of one of the most exciting developments in this show's history?
I honestly don't think there will be an Avengers this time haha. Coulson never died.
As I said before, I'm expecting Framework Cap to be in the ground deeper than Jemma, along with other Shield personnel. Hell, maybe Bucky will be Hydra's Star-Spangled Man
give me Bob, or give me death
First correction, I am Swiss
guys
Is Zola in the framework and that's why it's all Hydra-fied???
Same, much better reveal.
Dude elevated the show to another level to begin with, so I can't say I'm not happy to see him back.
No lies detected
....shit
Please!
So Simmons ain't dead right? We saw here grave, but she's fine. She's either with "Will" or doing her own thing.
Back to the fact this show moves at such a lightning quick pace, remember when Coulson HALO jumped onto a different planet and punched Ward in the heart? Remember Raina? Remember porcupine Raina? Remember Daisy's mom? Remember Jemma infiltrating Hydra? Remember Hyde just as a whole? Remember Ward's brother?
Just sayin'
Was the first thing i came to my mind after that big ass logo outside the Triskelion.
Yeah, in the Framework, who knows. Just saying, they're fractured after Civil War.
But seriously, AIDA/Darkhold are putting out rapid copies, and appear to be fully on board with uploading people into the Framework and being ok with them dying. Wonder how long they'd attempt to replace civilians or the elite of the world (presidents, etc).
Episode is up there with the Winter Soldier episodes in Season 1 and Simmons on the Alien Planet.
Good Grief, if they found a way to bring back Zola.
Maybe We find out Simmons wasn't really a Simmons. Really, Gravesite could mean alot of possibilities.
This is off air till April???
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is now the greatest comic book TV show of all time.
And if I'm being honest, I would even argue that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is the best piece of media in the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe.
That feels hyperbolic but what they've done with this show is nothing less than insane. Think back to how negative people were on the first season of this show. Arguments like "bland characters that no one cared about," "no reason to exist," and "only watching for the latest Marvel Easter eggs."
Now those same characters are some of the best in the MCU. Not only that but played by some of the best actors in it as well. Look at Iain as Fitz in the first season and jump to season 4. His performance tonight is one of the best I've seen in the universe as a whole.
Look at Brett Dalton as Ward. All of the hate that the character got in season 1 to season 4, where much of the fan base was begging to have him back.
This show is so damn good and there is no show on the "bubble" that deserves to be renewed more than it.
And if I'm being honest, I would even argue that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is the best piece of media in the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe.
That feels hyperbolic but what they've done with this show is nothing less than insane. Think back to how negative people were on the first season of this show. Arguments like "bland characters that no one cared about," "no reason to exist," and "only watching for the latest Marvel Easter eggs."
Now those same characters are some of the best in the MCU. Not only that but played by some of the best actors in it as well. Look at Iain as Fitz in the first season and jump to season 4. His performance tonight is one of the best I've seen in the universe as a whole.
Look at Brett Dalton as Ward. All of the hate that the character got in season 1 to season 4, where much of the fan base was begging to have him back.
This show is so damn good and there is no show on the "bubble" that deserves to be renewed more than it.
Think only Pre-WS S1 Ward got the hate. The turn and the lack of full-on cliche'd redemption was pretty popular. It worked wonders on what I thought of as a bland hero character.
Civil War yo, Civil War is the best CBM ever. But it's CW, SHIELD, literally everything else ain't shit compared to those two
Also we all thought Ward would get a redemption arc....NOPE. He was an asshole sociopath the entire way, I loved it
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Cue the op-eds from columnists chiding Marvel Studios for ignoring the TV side of things. [/wishful thinking]
George Oscar Bluth II
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If Legion doesn't drop in quality, then that will be the best comic/superhero show IMO.
That's fair, but right now...it's SHIELD...then everything else
Madness. I really never thought we'd see him back on this show, and yet, here we are.
No. Sorry but no as long as the Captain America trilogy exists no.
Mighty Chin
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But but but Season One.
Raylan Targaryen
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I don't really think it's hyperbolic at all. I like the MCU but honestly, the only thing that's really great is Winter Soldier.
and the guardians of the galaxy
I don't like comparing TV to movies, because it's just awkward to do for obvious reasons.. But AoS is pretty much the perfect example right now of why I'll always prefer television to movies. Movies only got that 2+ hours to hook you, whereas TV has so much more time to give you a quality experience. Obviously movies got an advantage of that bigger budget, but other than that, I know where my preferences lie.
I mean, I don't consider it to be better right, hell, I wouldn't really feel comfortable ranking it right now, gotta let that simmer.
Trust me, I'll never argue it with anyone. I'm sure "best thing in the MCU" isn't a majority opinion. But this episode may have pushed AoS over the top for me. It's incredibly what they managed to do with this show.
Sorry, but the best thing in the MCU is the Daredevil/Punisher story from the first four episodes of DD Season 2.
Agreed. Tonight's cliffhanger only works because of this show being on for four seasons.
I still love going back and watching the original Iron Man and thinking of Coulson's journey from that movie to now. And how much I want a 5-minute scene of Coulson just telling Tony what he's been doing over the past few years.
I honestly want to do the Punisher monologue while they are at the cemetery
That's just 4 episodes tho. It was good tho ofc (basically got this dude his own show), but eh...
This show isn't on any bubble, it's one of the lowest rated scripted shows on ABC.
Violence Jack
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I picked a good time to finally get back into this after missing the last month. Holy hell this is great, and such a mindfuck.
I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. AoS is a show that could go either way. That makes it a bubble show.
No you may not.
There was no Agent Carter to bide time while the writers come up with more stuff.
Bubble shows get marginal ratings, they don't get some of the worst ratings on their networks. My "argument" is "SHIELD has among the lowest ratings for any scripted show on its network, and it will already have four seasons completed for syndication purposes, so it's probably going to be canceled." It's not a ridiculous assertion.
So the last arc can run uninterrupted.
I mean that's fine, but it's still considered a bubble show. I've read three separate articles over the past few weeks where it's specifically mentioned as a show "on the bubble." Sorry, I'm gonna go with the entertainment sites on this one.
There are also other factors to consider other than live ratings. No one is going to be shocked if it's canceled but it's not a definite. It's a bubble show.
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