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Aldnoah Zero Season 2 |OT| Inaho or Out, It's All The Slaine

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Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Those protectors they wear around their necks to absorb shock and inflate reminds me of an actual product a buddy of mine used to work with the company that produced it here in Japan for bike riders. Was a motorcycle jacket that would inflate around the neck like that. Though the way it worked was a bit odd since it would activate if the safety wire got detached from its hardpoint due to the rider being separated from his bike.

There is all sorts of different stuff like that out there, just that this particular one I saw was made in Japan. They also had vests for horse riding that did the same thing.

Used co2 carts to inflate the protective sections.

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While I know this is just an anime and what nots am just writing this for my own personal amusement as noticed it while watching.

On another topic that I found odd is looking at the weapon systems that they are using in the series. No idea what the rifle is actually called, unless in the first episode they mentioned it and I missed it? Anyways that small bullpup rifle they use it looks as if it would use large sized rounds for it judging from the magazine and where the size of the port where the rounds feed into the rifle you would imagine that its firing some pretty large rounds. Would have guessed the magazine held around 20 rounds if we went by an imaginary size of said round from feed port and mag size with the thought that the mag is a double stack type of configuration.

Now comes the next part when you see it being fired and the casings flying out makes it look like its using ammunition for small caliber rounds and not rifle rounds. Which goes against the general look of the design and mechanics present. Some real rough calculations based off of estimates if the shipping containers were of standard measurements that the bullet (head once its separated from the casing) itself is around 7.4 inches~ 18.8cm~ rounded up. Which does not give it that large of a size when put into consideration the scale of the weapon its being fired from. Granted that the main character said the heads were being melted slightly still the general shape shown looks far more like pistol type of ammunition which appears "stubby" instead of actual rifle rounds which are more "pointed" in appearance so to speak. Even then with the slight melting of said rounds being fired taken into consideration does not really change the size all that much and as mentioned the casings give it the appearance of pistol type of ammunition. You would expect them to be using ammo meant to defeat armor which would lead the design to be closer to rifle ammunition. Even if there are HE rounds as the show states still the design would have to be the same as the AP ones for the most part as any major deviation from the actual design itself in terms of shape would effect aerodynamics and accuracy.

Basically what this looks like to me is trying to use a SMG that fires something along the lines of 9mm or .45 ACP to try and defeat body armor with... Since these weapons were supposed to be designed to defeat the Martian Cataphracts, seems a bit odd that the ammunition being fired from what seems to be the standard issue battle rifles to be so small. Guess that explains why they got their asses handed to them lol

The following images below are in order of evidence that support this observation. Areas with the white square around it shows what to take notice of in images below.

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Next issue is the placement of the under-barrel grenade launcher.

Granted the launcher tube is not directly attached under the barrel as there is a buffer piece in between the launcher tube and muzzle of the weapon, still there would be a lot of heat generated from prolonged fire, which has been shown on multiple occasions with the show itself. Taking into consideration with the small size of the rounds itself from the topic discussed above this section the weapon was meant to be constantly fired in full auto.

The issue here is that the muzzle blast overpressure will cause stress and heat buildup on the buffer attachment between the weapon system and launcher tube. If prolonged fire is continued potential heat could be generated down towards the actual tube itself causing a malfunction with the launcher itself. Considering too that the grenades are pretty much inside of the launcher tube right under where the muzzle is with just the buffer part in between Id say heat build up would be an actual concern. On top of damage already caused to the buffer point of the weapon system from the overpressure from the muzzle blast. Seeing how its a "break-action" type of design with how its loaded means smaller parts for the hinges and locking points. Not exactly the kind of thing that you would want to be taking constant unnecessary stress.

This is an actual studied subject when it comes to weapon systems. Granted this is for a vehicle, the same general principals remain and what would be realistically considered when designing a weapon system for combat use.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a198199.pdf

Provided below is just 2 simple screenshots showing the issue discussed.

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And this concludes the random post for the night caused by extreme boredom and inability to sleep.
 
Aldnoah.Zero 01-04

Loving this show so far, CGI mechs are a bit disappointing but it works for this show's settings and it is not jarring compared to other shows who opted for CGI (I'm looking at you Love Live!). I have to say this must be one of Urobuchi's weaker works when it comes to execution for in his other works of Fate/Zero and Madoka Magika I would already be attached to the characters already at this point, which as of right now only Slaine interests me as a character while Inaho serves as the badass intellectual that pwns everything (not Lelouch status, but still entertaining to watch).

As for the OST I need it in my fucking veins. Haters of the OST so far mind-boggles me, accusations of the vocalist having a "screeching voice" doesn't make sense as its nothing compared to your modern rock band.
 

stryke

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As for the OST I need it in my fucking veins. Haters of the OST so far mind-boggles me, accusations of the vocalist having a "screeching voice" doesn't make sense as its nothing compared to your modern rock band.

Speaking of which, why does episode 4 have a different ED?
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
Aldnoah.Zero Episode 5

Wow, okay, this show is in real danger of getting dropped over some truly stupid writing.
Sazaku tells the Emperor of the treachery of the Orbital Knights and that is proof of the hostile intent on the part of the Terrans? Yea, no, no, no, no, no a thousand times no.
Also, I am getting tried of how bland everything and everyone comes across.
 
Aldnoah.Zero Episode 5

Wow, okay, this show is in real danger of getting dropped over some truly stupid writing.
Sazaku tells the Emperor of the treachery of the Orbital Knights and that is proof of the hostile intent on the part of the Terrans? Yea, no, no, no, no, no a thousand times no.
Also, I am getting tried of how bland everything and everyone comes across.

Why would anyone believe Slaine? His word is hardly proof.
 
Aldnoah.Zero Episode 5

Wow, okay, this show is in real danger of getting dropped over some truly stupid writing.
Sazaku tells the Emperor of the treachery of the Orbital Knights and that is proof of the hostile intent on the part of the Terrans? Yea, no, no, no, no, no a thousand times no.
Also, I am getting tried of how bland everything and everyone comes across.

You misunderstood that scene
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
I understand the intent,
I am saying it comes across as incredibly hamfisted since it still based off the word of a dubious source with no real proof to back it up. Also, it means the whole affair is pretty pointless since while I am sure there is other end results, the main one is Mars is back to war with Earth. Really, this subplot needed more time in order to have an impact, as it is, it just feels like it pulling the needle back to where it was.
 
Ah, came off as you turned your head and didn't watch what happened afterwards. Inaho is batman of this show. Prep time like crazy, makes everyone look dumb as hell. Curious why the previous war was even stopped in the first place if no one else is able to do harm towards Martian except this kid
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
Ah, came off as you turned your head and didn't watch what happened afterwards. Inaho is batman of this show. Prep time like crazy, makes everyone look dumb as hell. Curious why the previous war was even stopped in the first place if no one else is able to do harm towards Martian except this kid

That is something that has been puzzling me since the beginning.
 

duckroll

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Episode 5

Mars looks really great. It's not particularly practical, but it's pretty nice art direction for what's intended to be the "alien" home world. Unfortunately that opening scene was pretty much the only decent thing in the episode here. Everything else feels far more phoned in than anything in the previous episodes. The characters all check in with the traits they've already been developed with adding nothing new - Inaho is a boy genius, the veteran survivor has PTSD over something that happened in the previous war, the princess really wants to tell everyone who she is, the Martian traitor girl doesn't want to trust anyone, the Martian knights are really bad at combat but have overpowered suits.

Same shit, different episode. The only thing new here is how shockingly moronic the emperor of Mars turns out to be. Using his stupidity to frame the entire episode between two scenes really ruins it. First at the start we're shown how he has no idea what's going on, and doesn't seem to have much contact with anyone actually involved in the incident. Then at the end we're shown how he has a terrible grip on actually evaluating information he is given. And this guy is the supreme emperor who led a bunch of pioneers into revolution and established a brand new culture and society on a far off planet in just twenty years? Roflmao. Smh. Etc.

A really disappointing setback after a pretty strong start for the series, lol.
 

Pooya

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the writing is so dumb loool.

Inaho the god, as if plot armor wasn't enough /bow. With how stupid and arrogant knights are they're all screwed.

Instead of sending Ender Inaho as a pilot they should just put him in command in place of cabbage and carrot.

Slaine plz step your game up
 

Articalys

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I just hope they'll eventually explain a reason besides "because he is" for why Inaho has almost zero emotion and is smarter than 90% of the military commanders in this show.

Probably not though.
 
Episode 5

Mars looks really great. It's not particularly practical, but it's pretty nice art direction for what's intended to be the "alien" home world. Unfortunately that opening scene was pretty much the only decent thing in the episode here. Everything else feels far more phoned in than anything in the previous episodes. The characters all check in with the traits they've already been developed with adding nothing new - Inaho is a boy genius, the veteran survivor has PTSD over something that happened in the previous war, the princess really wants to tell everyone who she is, the Martian traitor girl doesn't want to trust anyone, the Martian knights are really bad at combat but have overpowered suits.

Same shit, different episode. The only thing new here is how shockingly moronic the emperor of Mars turns out to be. Using his stupidity to frame the entire episode between two scenes really ruins it. First at the start we're shown how he has no idea what's going on, and doesn't seem to have much contact with anyone actually involved in the incident. Then at the end we're shown how he has a terrible grip on actually evaluating information he is given. And this guy is the supreme emperor who led a bunch of pioneers into revolution and established a brand new culture and society on a far off planet in just twenty years? Roflmao. Smh. Etc.

A really disappointing setback after a pretty strong start for the series, lol.

Dude is old and probably senile. This series isn't kind to anyone over 18.
 

Andrew J.

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I just hope they'll eventually explain a reason besides "because he is" for why Inaho has almost zero emotion and is smarter than 90% of the military commanders in this show.

Probably not though.

If he turns out to literally be a robot I'll be surprised, but not very surprised.
 

Deadly

Member
Also thought the emperor shit was dumb. I was hoping he'd play it smart and all but I guess it's too soon for that.
 

Finalow

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Dude is old and probably senile. This series isn't kind to anyone over 18.
really.

this is not even about Inaho being a genius, it's about everyone else being dumb and useless. at least the martian girl gently said areyoufuckingretarded to the princess and then stopped her.

to be honest the battle was really bad and the emperor is probably mentally challenged (and this could not just be bad writing but an actual thing in the story, like someone is ruling from the shadows or some cliched bullshit like that. or maybe not)

not all hope is lost though! Inaho is slowly saving the earth.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
really.

this is not even about Inaho being a genius, it's about everyone else being dumb and useless. at least the martian girl gently said areyoufuckingretarded to the princess and then stopped her.

to be honest the battle was really bad and the emperor is probably mentally challenged (and this could not just be bad writing but an actual thing in the story, like someone is ruling from the shadows or some cliched bullshit like that. or maybe not)

not all hope is lost though! Inaho is slowly saving the earth.

Pretty much seeing how zero tactics are used by the others its no wonder why they all get slaughtered. Let alone learn anything from previous actions...

Kinda bad writing personally which brings the series down.

Thats ok though as long as Inko is on the screen Ill keep watching~

 

sonicmj1

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Episode 5

Even by the already kinda low standards of this show, the episode is stupid. Like, nobody in this show has a brain except Inaho.

And I know the writer must have felt really cool setting up that last moment, but really?
Sure, it makes sense for Saazbaum to find out about Slaine, and to be concerned that he'd try to expose the conspiracy. He might even think that Slaine would try to find a way to contact the emperor, and pre-empt him to establish credibility. But to anticipate when Slaine would steal into the conference room without his commander's permission and then just hang out invisible in the emperor's chambers on the off-chance that Slaine would show up in person?
Maybe that's nitpicking, but give me a break. This stuff isn't even necessary.

It's nice for them to address all these scientific minutiae about how Inaho's plans work, but if they're going to overlook making people behave like intelligent people, this isn't going to be much of a story.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
They seriously need to stop letting most other folks pilot the mechs since all they are doing is wasting resources lol.

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though got to admit it was cool seeing
reactive armor being used, since while its existing tech you rarely see any shows use or talk about it.
 

duckroll

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Yes. They should immediately move on to a master-drone system where Inaho pilots one command mech which is linked to all the other drone mechs, and he can coordinate all his strategies single handedly. :p
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Yes. They should immediately move on to a master-drone system where Inaho pilots one command mech which is linked to all the other drone mechs, and he can coordinate all his strategies single handedly. :p

The results cant be much worse than putting the current so called "pilots" in charge of things lol. Seriously.

But what in that last "skirmish" they
lost 5 units. Not exactly the smartest thing to do in their current situation considering the status of various bases is unknown which means resupplies are questionable. that and apparently no one learned of the last encounter with the guy so they just all stand around shooting regardless.

Not to mention
back on the topic of the reactive armor, with a limited crew and supplies who went and stuck all of that gear on the trainer suit.
 

duckroll

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That was actually a serious comment. I think they -should- do that! No one else seems to really have any combat training or common sense in this show!
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
That was actually a serious comment. I think they -should- do that! No one else seems to really have any combat training or common sense in this show!

You got to love how the general tactics of the "regular soldiers" = bunch up in a group and not move. lol

Seriously anything that would include Inaho putting his brain behind more units would be better than the current situation they seem to be stuck in lol.
 

Mokoi

Banned
Aldnoah Zero 5

I know Inaho is set up to be the badass who knows how to do everything , but really is he the only person who knows how to use tactics or fight at all. I mentioned this during the last episode too. It's just really dumb how nobody else knows how to pilot those mechs efficiently or fight at all. One part really bother me. I know you can argue that they don't have any fighting experience, but really
the soldiers are just going to stare at the turret being tossed at them instead of trying to move and dodge the martian coming for them. They switched their rounds, but doesn't help if your pilots are shit.
It just really bothered me, and as mention the writing at times is just bad. Still enjoying it, but very weak episode with how dumb it was. Stupid emperor too.
 

Danj

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I keep expecting the Terrans to (re)discover some long-lost/new-model giant robot, with which they can kick Martian ass. I mean, it's called Aldnoah Zero for a reason, right? Right? I'm expecting them to dig up the prototype or something.
 
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It might be cliche as fuck, but I can't help but get pumped every time Inaho wipes the floor with these guys. I'm sure if Earth had enough time to analyze the Martian Kataphrakts they could come up with a similar strategy, but Inaho's appeal is that he can instantly rationalize the situation and act. It is stupid how we aren't seeing any strategy beyond Inaho (a majority of Terrans STILL just think the spray and pray strategy will work), but it's meant to contrast Inaho (in an admittedly cliche way obv.).
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Aldnoah Zero 5

I know Inaho is set up to be the badass who knows how to do everything , but really is he the only person who knows how to use tactics or fight at all. I mentioned this during the last episode too. It's just really dumb how nobody else knows how to pilot those mechs efficiently or fight at all. One part really bother me. I know you can argue that they don't have any fighting experience, but really
the soldiers are just going to stare at the turret being tossed at them instead of trying to move and dodge the martian coming for them. They switched their rounds, but doesn't help if your pilots are shit.
It just really bothered me, and as mention the writing at times is just bad. Still enjoying it, but very weak episode with how dumb it was. Stupid emperor too.

More like
why didnt they start firing with the cannons right when the dumbshit landed before having his weapon drawn.
 

Linkark07

Banned
Am I the only one who wants to see Inaho have a painful death? Because I'm getting tired of that idiot not showing any kind of emotion. Hopefully Slaine gets more time on the next episodes.

Also, kinda disappointed the emperor is an idiot. Instead of continue doing some investigations about his granddaughter death, he prefers to restart the war.

This show... is easily losing some points in my books.
 
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