Nope. You're lying.
He shot and killed a woman after failing to check if the real gun he pointed at her before pulling the trigger was loaded. People who understand that every gun should be treated as loaded until visually confirmed otherwise are not happy about it.
ah ok i see. Well - i will side with him. Any of you archair Inspectors would have claimed the same right after the incident. Not a single one here would have said :,, welp - yeah i guess iam the one who killed her"
Where is this nonsense comming from? THERE WAS AN ARMORER ON THE SET WICH PARTICULAR JOB WAS TO CHECK THAT!
those two Gifs barely counter my valid points. For what i hear it takes usually around 4Gifs to counter valid points if someone dont want to engage in real exchange of Opinion by typing his. And i hear also that at least one of those Gifs need to feature a major Meme.
Bro, we've been around this block for 18 pages.
Isn’t there like professional fire arms people this gun should have filtered through and been inspected by before even touching Baldwins hands? I don’t see how it’s his fault.
But he WASN'T SUPPOSED to shoot blanks. The gun should have been EMPTY as this was a rehearsal. I could -almost- understand if he mistook a live round for a blank when they were all handed to him (though a single live round WILL stand out amongst a few blanks). But all he had to do, THE BARE MINIMUM, is do a simple check to verify that this REAL REVOLVER was empty, I demonstrated how easy it is a few pages back, before pointing it DIRECTLY AT PEOPLE, cocking it, and pulling the trigger. It's such a basic fundamental failure of personal firearm safety that it beggars belief that it even happened.
Because he picked up a REAL WORKING revolver, NEVER checked to see if it was loaded, and then cocked it and pulled the trigger WHILE POINTING IT DIRECTLY AT PEOPLE. No matter what condition he thought the gun was in, this is complete and total negligence and may end up being manslaughter.
We don't know if he did check it. We don't know if live ammo means a blank or a live bullet. We don't know what type of gun, could have been something like a navy revolver which uses ball ammo and ramrodded black powder which would be much more difficult to check.
Fixed that for you.
This was a rehearsal, NOTHING was supposed to happen with the revolver. I'm confused why he even cocked and fired it. Whether or not there was a blank in there or a live round, the end result is the same and his culpability is the same.
I'm curious, in your opinion (hope you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night), if Alec says he DID inspect the gun and thought it was empty or somehow safe to fire, does that make things better or worse for him?
He’s an actor not the guy in charge of making sure it never made it on set in the first place?
Familiarize yourself with the concept of multiple redundancies in safety systems then get back to us.
Idk according to the actors equity association it says nothing about the actor themselves having to check.
Are you misgendering Alec Baldwin?
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I honestly don't know. Depends on the type of gun, type of ammo and whether the gun was supposed to be loaded with something or not at that time. None of which we know so picking a particular narrative at this time is likely more motivated than what you want to have had happen than what actually did.
What are you talking about? Everyone agrees this was a REHEARSAL. Thus no live ammo (obviously) or blanks were to be fired. Alec thought this was a COLD gun, didn't check himself (or at least no one has said he did), and still proceeded to point it, cock it, and pull the trigger. This pretty irrefutable given what we know right now. He THOUGHT the gun was empty/inert, failed to adhere to the rules even SAG endorses, and a woman died.
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It would certainly give me insight to see if this topic is even worth discussing here.
I think most people (myself included) believe that Baldwin seriously fucked up on a variety of levels. The dividing line seems to be of you believe he belongs in jail (I personally do not).
Good find on that article. I can certainly see a situation where a revolver was loaded with several dummy rounds and a single blank so the camera would see the dummy rounds from the front.Here is a bunch of information. They apparently had dummy rounds (not blanks but actual dummy rounds) that might have been in the gun so it could have been 'cold' but have dummy 'bullets" in it. The 'long Colt revolver' could be a navy colt revolver' that uses balls instead of bullets and might not easily be identifiable as loaded or not, although what the AD says refutes this, but he doesn't seem to have been paying great attention.Criminal charges 'on the table' in deadly 'Rust' movie-set shooting involving Alec Baldwin: DA
Testing is being done to determine whether the lead projectile recovered from director Joel Souza's shoulder was fired from the gun used by Baldwin.
I've not seen anything that says this was a rehearsal, just that he was apparently rehearsing drawing the gun, possibly right before proceeding to filming it. The goal may have been to draw an already cocked gun and the gun fired through the action of drawing it.
The SAG rules obviously don't apply to on the set, as can be seen in the 3:10 to Yuma behind the scenes stuff where someone is firing a live weapon directly at a cameraman.
There are scenarios where Baldwin is blameless, some where he was extremely negligent either as an actor or producer.
Nah, that is too reductive.
even that is a tough question because on one hand what does jailing Baldwin accomplish the whole point of jail is to coax the person into not re-offending, but Baldwin would most certainly not do this again.
I do not agree with that idea at all. I don't think his status as an "elite" has anything to do with this. At least it doesn't for me. If this was stunt double John Smith from Iowa who is performing in his first feature film I would have the exact same opinion on this situation as I do with it being Alex Baldwin. The majority of the blame here in my opinion lies with the prop master/armorer and the other safety personnel on set unless the investigation turns up information that shows that Baldwin either knew the gun was loaded somehow or knee the safety personnel were not qualified and/or knew that they were not doing their jobs properly. Baldwin's wealth or status has no bearing om how I view this situation.
More memes. About what I expected from you after I saw the reaction notification.
No, in his eyes you can commit a perfect murder in Hollywood. Because apparently he doesn’t think as well as a few others in this thread that the actor should be checking the gun directly with the armorer,. Like on the movie sets I worked on did, and countless other articles that say they do as well.
Jesus Christ you guys are completely out of your tree at this point. Fucking hell.
Check my edit. I'm over your childish nonsense at this point. You are smarter than these childish memes. I know you are.
So riddle me this, why do you think people in Hollywood should be treated any different than someone in their backyard when it comes to laws enforced by universal firearm safety rules?
I don't think people in Hollywood should just receive blanket amnesty for fuck ups like you have ignorantly portrayed for several posts now. That is a fantasy that exists only inside your own mind. The same goes for any idea that this being "Alec Baldwin!" has anything to do with it either. I could give a shit. I don't think I have watched a single tv show or movie of his in like 10 years AT LEAST. I am more familiar with his memes than I am his work. This all comes down to the situation and the context of what happened. He was handed a loaded gun, was told it was safe, and ended up killing someone in a tragic accident.
The director and assistant director are also to blame. Crew walked off the set just before the shooting because of already unsafe working conditions and management just ignored their concerns. They are just as much to blame for letting the situation get out of hand.
Because it is a business that agrees to abide by certain regulations, files permits, is subject to inspection etc. The guy at the end of the line in a business is the one usually least responsible. You drop a 2 ton weight on someone at work because your manager told you the cable was good up to 4 tons, and the engineering guys didn't do the required maintenance and they never trained you in proper procedure then it's the business and it's poor management that are responsible. You drop a 2 ton weight on your friend in your back yard then you are responsible.
