Because I said that the audience is not the one who has to solve the problems of the filmmakers? Or when I answered with a example after you made your "Lol"-post?
Problems of the filmmakers? Its a one minute trailer for a ~2 hour film. You have no idea how the film will be from the trailer. All I asked was what people in the thread (not you specificallu) wanted to see in the trailer instead...that's it. And you said "stop asking me" and "next time you complain about a game I'll ask you to look into the code and say what the devs could have done instead".
I was genuinely curious what would have made people enjoy the trailer.
Problems of the filmmakers? Its a one minute trailer for a ~2 hour film. You have no idea how the film will be from the trailer. All I asked was what people in the thread (not you specificallu) wanted to see in the trailer instead...that's it. And you said "stop asking me" and "next time you complain about a game I'll ask you to look into the code and say what the devs could have done instead".
I was genuinely curious what would have made people enjoy the trailer.
Probably something that doesn't so overtly reminds us of Prometheus, and that isn't filled with franchise tropes. The trailer makes it look like it's treading old-ass ground and isn't offering anything new.
Probably something that doesn't so overtly reminds us of Prometheus, and that isn't filled with franchise tropes. The trailer makes it look like it's treading old-ass ground and isn't offering anything new.
Problems of the filmmakers? Its a one minute trailer for a ~2 hour film. You have no idea how the film will be from the trailer. All I asked was what people in the thread (not you specificallu) wanted to see in the trailer instead...that's it. And you said "stop asking me" and "next time you complain about a game I'll ask you to look into the code and say what the devs could have done instead".
I was genuinely curious what would have made people enjoy the trailer.
That's because people think they deserve to experience a piece of media and make a judgement about it without actually understanding why it made them feel like that. While much easier than educating yourself, it also makes your opinion worthless.
Tangentially related: but I feel silly for never noticing before that the Space Jockey telescope (or whatever) is a giant cock'n'balls. I guess everything in this universe is either a peen or a vajayjay.
It was in Alien - but Cameron dropped the perverse sexual undercurrents like a rock and went with full on bug monsters and mostly the sense of sexual perversity has been increasingly lost over time.
Not that it diminishes my enjoyment of Aliens as a great action thriller but only Alien nailed the weird sexual undercurrents of the screenplay events and Geiger's art.
To be fair I'm not sure how much Scott consciously went for that vs it just being inherent in the script and Gieger's designs and Scott going with it. I guess Resurrection tried to bring it back a bit but that was of course a messy all over the place affair.
As an aside when I took a swing by Geiger's museum last year I was reminded on viewing the Alien suit that it had a full and open vagina between its legs to go with its phallic head and tongue. As I seem to remember one review noting: the monster seemed more inclined to fuck you to death than anything else in Alien.
Still - shower scene threesome involving an Alien. Maybe Scott's bringing the sexual perversity back.
People reading alot from the first trailer to a movie.
First people complain about trailers giving away too much, now when they don't people complain that there is nothing new and nothing there.
I think people just like hating and shitting on things.
This is ridiculously disingenuous. "People" are reacting the the trailer we got. There's a very consistent thread running through trailer discussions about spoilers, this is nothing new. Most people prefer some restraint when it comes to showing character deaths. But if the trailer was full of new ideas rather than re-treads, you would't see many posts complaining about how it was out of ideas. We'd be talking a about the new stuff.
Please either respond to people in the thread, or the trailer, but enough of this nonsense meta-commentary.
Problems of the filmmakers? Its a one minute trailer for a ~2 hour film. You have no idea how the film will be from the trailer. All I asked was what people in the thread (not you specificallu) wanted to see in the trailer instead...that's it. And you said "stop asking me" and "next time you complain about a game I'll ask you to look into the code and say what the devs could have done instead".
I was genuinely curious what would have made people enjoy the trailer.
Your post came off like one of these "You have never made a movie/book/game by yourself, so stop complain about it and make it better"-posts that were popular here for some time here on GAF. I am sorry that I understood you wrong.
I am not sure what I would do. Before I saw this trailer I would have done something like stay somehow in the look and feel and Lore of the old four movies while adding a bit Prometheus that is needed because its still a Sequel. But it looks like Ridley Scott did this here and and went overboard with it. Leak Spoiler:
The female lead in this movie is the mother of Ellen Ripley. WTF. This is as stupid as C3PO beeing created by Darth Vader. Just that the C3PO thing was a throwaway and never later mentioned again.
Also I would avoid adding stupid looking almost-Xenomorphs and stop explaining everything. I am totally open here, I was always a bit curious what the Space-Jockeys were and why they flew around with millions of the most terrifiyng monsters of modern cinema through space, but in the same moment, I was happy that I didnt knew, because it added to the Alien and its strange lifecycle.
This read presumes that they know the thing they're trying to sell is disappointing, though, so instead of making it better, they're just gonna sling it as-is.
It's definitely a weird position to be in for the marketing. Might have been why they opted not to do their own thing and instead apply "somber dirge-y pop-song trailer template" to it.
I kind of think the issue here is Fox doesn't know which direction they want to go with this franchise. Ridley clearly wants to go all mythological/philosophical with it (for better or worse), but there are plenty of fans of the franchise that just love the horror and the creature mythos of it all (those into the AvP universe, etc.), and then others who simply really love the first two films as standalone sci-fi horror. I agree, I think selling this film is weird. There are a lot of mixed expectations now, especially after what Prometheus ended up being.
I definitely think Fox thinks it's going to disappoint some fans, depending on the direction they're going with it. So they may have opted for, like you said, very cliche slow pop trailer. But who knows. It's hard to say.
It was in Alien - but Cameron dropped the perverse sexual undercurrents like a rock and went with full on bug monsters and mostly the sense of sexual perversity has been increasingly lost over time.
Not that it diminishes my enjoyment of Aliens as a great action thriller but only Alien nailed the weird sexual undercurrents of the screenplay events and Geiger's art.
To be fair I'm not sure how much Scott consciously went for that vs it just being inherent in the script and Gieger's designs and Scott going with it. I guess Resurrection tried to bring it back a bit but that was of course a messy all over the place affair.
One of Alien 3's more interesting readings, beginning shortly after its release, was that it was a metaphor/allegory for the AIDS epidemic at the time.
Weaver's idea to basically fuck and/or have an orgy with the Xenomorph first occurred while making Alien 3, I believe. Alien 3's got a sexual undercurrent, but it's almost all concerned with how sex will kill you. The undercurrent that might be present in Resurrection is basically only there to create the new monster.
Your post came off like one of these "You have never made a movie/book/game by yourself, so stop complain about it and make it better"-posts that were popular here for some time here on GAF.
Your post came off like one of these "You have never made a movie/book/game by yourself, so stop complain about it and make it better"-posts that were popular here for some time here on GAF. I am sorry that I understood you wrong.
I am not sure what I would do. Before I saw this trailer I would have done something like stay somehow in the look and feel and Lore of the old four movies while adding a bit Prometheus that is needed because its still a Sequel. But it looks like Ridley Scott did this here and and went overboard with it. Leak Spoiler:
The female lead in this movie is the mother of Ellen Ripley. WTF. This is as stupid as C3PO beeing created by Darth Vader. Just that the C3PO thing was a throwaway and never later mentioned again.
Also I would avoid adding stupid looking almost-Xenomorphs and stop explaining everything. I am totally open here, I was always a bit curious what the Space-Jockeys were and why they flew around with millions of the most terrifiyng monsters of modern cinema through space, but in the same moment, I was happy that I didnt knew, because it added to the Alien and its strange lifecycle.
Re-reading my post, I'm not sure how you could have gotten that from it, but it's all good now...thanks for the response...I enjoy reading opinions different than mine!
One of Alien 3's more interesting readings, beginning shortly after its release, was that it was a metaphor/allegory for the AIDS epidemic at the time.
Weaver's idea to basically fuck and/or have an orgy with the Xenomorph first occurred while making Alien 3, I believe. Alien 3's got a sexual undercurrent, but it's almost all concerned with how sex will kill you. The undercurrent that might be present in Resurrection is basically only there to create the new monster.
Yeah, before the Special Edition gave the film's admirers new ammunition to lob at those who disliked it full-stop, this reading of the film was basically the go-to for people trying to get others to re-think the film.
One of the most cited examples of this theory comes from a 1996 article in, of all things, The Socialist Review.
There's a Cracked article that much more recently puts the idea forward, but it relies pretty heavily on that essay itself. Even more recently there was a Birth Movies Death essay by Devin Faraci that further explained the reasoning while still treading the same ground as that 1996 essay.
Watching the Furious Gods doc makes me really appreciate the film on a technical level. The amount and quality of the production work and design is incredibly impressive. It almost makes me want to like it. Really what a shame it didn't live up to expectations. And the blame for sure lies on Scott, he actively takes credit for several story ideas in the movie.
It was in Alien - but Cameron dropped the perverse sexual undercurrents like a rock and went with full on bug monsters and mostly the sense of sexual perversity has been increasingly lost over time.
Not that it diminishes my enjoyment of Aliens as a great action thriller but only Alien nailed the weird sexual undercurrents of the screenplay events and Geiger's art.
To be fair I'm not sure how much Scott consciously went for that vs it just being inherent in the script and Gieger's designs and Scott going with it. I guess Resurrection tried to bring it back a bit but that was of course a messy all over the place affair.
As an aside when I took a swing by Geiger's museum last year I was reminded on viewing the Alien suit that it had a full and open vagina between its legs to go with its phallic head and tongue. As I seem to remember one review noting: the monster seemed more inclined to fuck you to death than anything else in Alien.
Still - shower scene threesome involving an Alien. Maybe Scott's bringing the sexual perversity back.
You're indeed right, Aliens heavily downplayed that aspect of the first movie. All to the better, since it gave the movie its own tone and identity. Aliens is frankly one of the best examples om how to do a sequel to such an iconic film.
We'll see what Ridley does with this one weird-giger-sex-wise.
Yeah, before the Special Edition gave the film's admirers new ammunition to lob at those who disliked it full-stop, this reading of the film was basically the go-to for people trying to get others to re-think the film.
One of the most cited examples of this theory comes from a 1996 article in, of all things, The Socialist Review.
There's a Cracked article that much more recently puts the idea forward, but it relies pretty heavily on that essay itself. Even more recently there was a Birth Movies Death essay by Devin Faraci that further explained the reasoning while still treading the same ground as that 1996 essay.
Probably something that doesn't so overtly reminds us of Prometheus, and that isn't filled with franchise tropes. The trailer makes it look like it's treading old-ass ground and isn't offering anything new.
Either way there will always be people that complain about something. People complained about Prometheus for not being an Alien movie (among other things) and now they are giving us a full on Alien movie and people still complain.
You get rid of those classic Alien tropes and its too different for people. You keep the classic Alien tropes and they have suddenly run out of idea's because its the same stuff, even though there is actually some new idea's in here, like the new type of Xenomorph (back burster)
I'm really not worried about anything here though and as a big Alien fan, I'm still really looking forward to getting a new Alien movie and also seeing what David has been up to since Prometheus.
Either way there will always be people that complain about something. People complained about Prometheus for not being an Alien movie (among other things) and now they are giving us a full on Alien movie and people still complain.
You get rid of those classic Alien tropes and its too different for people. You keep the classic Alien tropes and they have suddenly run out of idea's because its the same stuff, can't win.
I'm really not worried about anything here though and as a big Alien fan, I'm still really looking forward to getting a new Alien movie and also seeing what David has been up to since Prometheus.
it's kind of weird to see something like this after the trailer for prometheus, which was far less spoilery and way more about mood.
also i never really felt like alien was a slasher movie. it was a horror film that existed before slasher tropes were really established. with alien it wasn't about the fun and different ways that people on the ship could get killed off, but just how utterly fucked basically everyone was versus this force of nature, no matter what they do. in prometheus, it kinda-sorta didn't feel like a slasher film either, aside from the end of the movie where there was a big bad guy chasing the last girl. the deaths in prometheus were basically because dumb people did dumb things.
this looks like a slasher film, just based on what was chosen to show folks. way too much emphasis on gore/murder/violence instead of any other mood. i think the editors were going for 'scary!' when they should have gone for 'unsettling' like the alien and prometheus trailers were successful at doing.
as for the film, i'm willing to give scott a second chance, but my expectations are real low. it's not because of prometheus a whole bunch... more that this is supposed to be the start of the alien prequel trilogy that seems wholly unnecessary.
The issue with Prometheus was how indecisive it was about the type of film it wanted to be. It wanted to replicate Alien, but be different enough... It wanted to create a grandeur mythos, but still be grounded.
For all the shit we give 3 and Resurrection, there is one thing I still admire about the original 4. Each one is a unique tale told. It's why I can see why someone could vastly prefer Aliens to Alien and vice versa. It's also why even though Resurrection is just an outright bad movie, it at least has it's own flavor. Each film is a blank slate and tells a new chapter really. None really rely heavily on the previous film other than being a backdrop/lead in for the next. They take the pieces they want to keep and move on.
Prometheus did not. It felt like it was trying so hard to answer these questions from the original series... that didn't need to be asked. Where the Alien came from was never an issue in the original series. It was the conflict on what people wanted to do with it between Crew members and Company orders. It was just a destructive, terrifying force, with nothing but the most primal human instincts and the struggle to survive between conflicting parties. The Alien was just that.
Prometheus on the other hand decided to switch it up to a living biological weapon that can either kill the host or turn it into a zombie or create the human race or god knows what anymore. But it has to lead to the Alien some how from a giant squad monster. Half the flick is basically exposition for describing how the Alien came about to be, how Weyland became aware of it, how all these pieces in the first Alien movie fit together. Where they forgot they need to actually make a decent movie in the first place. The cast was nothing more than bullet points to setting up the Alien story, in the Prometheus movie.
Even if I feel like shitting on Resurrection, at least the characters felt like they were in their own movie and not trying to explain a movie from 35 years back... which didn't even need to be explained. It only became a mystery when they decided to make it one.
I'm sorry I just can't get excited about Aliens bursting out of someone's back as opposed to someone's chest. Maybe next movie we'll get aliens that burst through the butt?
I'm sorry I just can't get excited about Aliens bursting out of someone's back as opposed to someone's chest. Maybe next movie we'll get aliens that burst through the butt?
Either way there will always be people that complain about something. People complained about Prometheus for not being an Alien movie (among other things) and now they are giving us a full on Alien movie and people still complain.
You get rid of those classic Alien tropes and its too different for people. You keep the classic Alien tropes and they have suddenly run out of idea's because its the same stuff, even though there is actually some new idea's in here, like the new type of Xenomorph (back burster)
I'm really not worried about anything here though and as a big Alien fan, I'm still really looking forward to getting a new Alien movie and also seeing what David has been up to since Prometheus.
The issue with Prometheus was how indecisive it was about the type of film it wanted to be. It wanted to replicate Alien, but be different enough... It wanted to create a grandeur mythos, but still be grounded.
For all the shit we give 3 and Resurrection, there is one thing I still admire about the original 4. Each one is a unique tale told. It's why I can see why someone could vastly prefer Aliens to Alien and vice versa. It's also why even though Resurrection is just an outright bad movie, it at least has it's own flavor. Each film is a blank slate and tells a new chapter really. None really rely heavily on the previous film other than being a backdrop/lead in for the next. They take the pieces they want to keep and move on.
Prometheus did not. It felt like it was trying so hard to answer these questions from the original series... that didn't need to be asked. Where the Alien came from was never an issue in the original series. It was the conflict on what people wanted to do with it between Crew members and Company orders. It was just a destructive, terrifying force, with nothing but the most primal human instincts and the struggle to survive between conflicting parties. The Alien was just that.
Prometheus on the other hand decided to switch it up to a living biological weapon that can either kill the host or turn it into a zombie or create the human race or god knows what anymore. But it has to lead to the Alien some how from a giant squad monster. Half the flick is basically exposition for describing how the Alien came about to be, how Weyland became aware of it, how all these pieces in the first Alien movie fit together. Where they forgot they need to actually make a decent movie in the first place. The cast was nothing more than bullet points to setting up the Alien story, in the Prometheus movie.
Even if I feel like shitting on Resurrection, at least the characters felt like they were in their own movie and not trying to explain a movie from 35 years back... which didn't even need to be explained. It only became a mystery when they decided to make it one.
Ridley Scott should've just removed all Alien references from Prometheus and had it rewritten to be an original sci-fi ip. It's nonsense to watch him say how he absolutely did not want to tread the same old ground with the goddamn space jockey looming behind him lol. When you hear him speak about Prometheus it's pretty clear at some point he lost all interest in making an Alien prequel and became seriously fixated on the idea of ancient aliens creating the human race. What's even the point of still having a connection to the Alien franchise from a narrative point of view? (the financial/marketing reasons are otherwise pretty clear) It's funny seeing the production/design crew mortified at Scott's insistence that the space jockey should actually be a humanoid underneath a suit. I just don't get it. Would've been better for everyone if Prometheus was entirely its own thing.
Like you said, Prometheus did not know what it want to be, and all of the "lore" added to the Alien franchise not only doesn't fit at all, it doesn't even make a lick of sense. And based on the Covenant rumors, shit's just gonna get worse. I really am not sure why Scott came back to Alien, not once, but twice.
Tangentially related: but I feel silly for never noticing before that the Space Jockey telescope (or whatever) is a giant cock'n'balls. I guess everything in this universe is either a peen or a vajayjay.
The issue with Prometheus was how indecisive it was about the type of film it wanted to be. It wanted to replicate Alien, but be different enough... It wanted to create a grandeur mythos, but still be grounded.
For all the shit we give 3 and Resurrection, there is one thing I still admire about the original 4. Each one is a unique tale told. It's why I can see why someone could vastly prefer Aliens to Alien and vice versa. It's also why even though Resurrection is just an outright bad movie, it at least has it's own flavor. Each film is a blank slate and tells a new chapter really. None really rely heavily on the previous film other than being a backdrop/lead in for the next. They take the pieces they want to keep and move on.
Prometheus did not. It felt like it was trying so hard to answer these questions from the original series... that didn't need to be asked. Where the Alien came from was never an issue in the original series. It was the conflict on what people wanted to do with it between Crew members and Company orders. It was just a destructive, terrifying force, with nothing but the most primal human instincts and the struggle to survive between conflicting parties. The Alien was just that.
Prometheus on the other hand decided to switch it up to a living biological weapon that can either kill the host or turn it into a zombie or create the human race or god knows what anymore. But it has to lead to the Alien some how from a giant squad monster. Half the flick is basically exposition for describing how the Alien came about to be, how Weyland became aware of it, how all these pieces in the first Alien movie fit together. Where they forgot they need to actually make a decent movie in the first place. The cast was nothing more than bullet points to setting up the Alien story, in the Prometheus movie.
Even if I feel like shitting on Resurrection, at least the characters felt like they were in their own movie and not trying to explain a movie from 35 years back... which didn't even need to be explained. It only became a mystery when they decided to make it one.
My main problem with Prometheus was that nothing that any of the characters did made any fucking sense. Like the main scientist gets depressed because after one day on the planet they've found alien life but the only one they found is dead! And he get so pissed. But the main problem is David. You see hints that he harbors resentment towards humanity for the way they treat him. Him infecting the main scientists comes really out of nowhere but he seems like already knows what it will do even though that's impossible. And then at the very end he questions why humans care about what their creators think about them and want to destroy them when it seemed like David cared about what his creators thought about him and he wanted to destroy them. Why the hell did Wayland have to be a secret? It was his expedition and his goals weren't exactly in contrast to those of the scientists and even if they were what the hell could they do about it?
The film doesn't answer any questions because there weren't any questions that needed to be answered and then creates tons of new questions that it never answers. Who are the engineers and why did they create humans? Why do they want to destroy humans? What the fuck happened to them that caused them all to die? What the hell is the black goop? How squid alien impregnate engineer and create not xenomorph? What does that have to do with xenomorphs? We already know how xenomorphs work. The black goop convolutes things to an insane degree. Just say that the xenomorphs themselves are a bioweapon and cut out the steps. Instead xenomorphs aren't a bioweapon but are instead an accident created when an android used black goop to infect a man who impregnated a woman who gave birth to a squid that in turn impregnated an Engineer who gave birth to a thing that kinda sorta looked like a xenomorph but not really???
I guess the ship from the first movie crashed on LV-426? And now it has xenomorphs on board? Except instead of chestbursters they are backbursters? Also the black goo can fly like it has a will now and infect people? The Engineer from the opening of Prometheus had to pick up the black goo and drink it. And the movie will end with the terraforming expert detonating a terraforming machine that turns LV-426 into the wasteland seen in Alien?
This is ridiculously disingenuous. "People" are reacting the the trailer we got. There's a very consistent thread running through trailer discussions about spoilers, this is nothing new. Most people prefer some restraint when it comes to showing character deaths. But if the trailer was full of new ideas rather than re-treads, you would't see many posts complaining about how it was out of ideas. We'd be talking a about the new stuff.
Please either respond to people in the thread, or the trailer, but enough of this nonsense meta-commentary.
Really looking forward to Hex having zero answer to this post.
Holy shit these drive by "you guys are just haters" posts always make me cringe. The trailer showed me nothing to get excited about. If "more of the same with none of the surprise the original film had" gets you excited that's great but you're basically asking for a processed product and turning around and getting mad at people who would like it to be something more seeing how it actually USED to be something. Alien and Aliens are such iconic films but it's apparently asking too much for them to actually do something worth remembering with another film clearly banking on both the name and the fact that the ass shit garbage butt sequels we got are out of people's minds.
One of Alien 3's more interesting readings, beginning shortly after its release, was that it was a metaphor/allegory for the AIDS epidemic at the time.
Weaver's idea to basically fuck and/or have an orgy with the Xenomorph first occurred while making Alien 3, I believe. Alien 3's got a sexual undercurrent, but it's almost all concerned with how sex will kill you. The undercurrent that might be present in Resurrection is basically only there to create the new monster.
Yah I remember that. It's interesting but pretty flimsy justification. Alien 3 was clearly a confused picture with a muddled script born of multiple writers with certain elements influenced by Ward's initial approach.
It shifts sexuality away from the Alien though (which instead becomes the focus of a Dragon/mythical beast arc - most clearly in the assembly cut) to the act itself and more pbviously draws parallels between giving birth as a precursor to your own eventually death.
Honestly though as interesting as I find the two cuts as insights into films gone wrong and talent (which was there in form of fincher and cast) trying to rescue what it could resulting in some flashes of good work.
But no amount of analysis will salvage the film from what it is sadly: maimed and deformed with an odd, cold beauty in certain scenes that shines through.
The film doesn't answer any questions because there weren't any questions that needed to be answered and then creates tons of new questions that it never answers. Who are the engineers and why did they create humans? Why do they want to destroy humans? What the fuck happened to them that caused them all to die? What the hell is the black goop? How squid alien impregnate engineer and create not xenomorph? What does that have to do with xenomorphs? We already know how xenomorphs work. The black goop convolutes things to an insane degree. Just say that the xenomorphs themselves are a bioweapon and cut out the steps. Instead xenomorphs aren't a bioweapon but are instead an accident created when an android used black goop to infect a man who impregnated a woman who gave birth to a squid that in turn impregnated an Engineer who gave birth to a thing that kinda sorta looked like a xenomorph but not really???
Uhhhhh.....weren't we supposed to get answers to all these questions in a direct sequel, Prometheus 2, where Dr. Shaw and David go to the engineers planet called Paradise? We should still be getting those answers, but I guess with an altered script, where Dr. Shaw is mostly out of the picture. In this new Alien movie, we are getting yet another group of stupid scientists not wearing fucking helmets on an unknown planet (at least they did so in Prometheus, but took it off later), these scientists are going to discover the black goo thingy again, yet another group of people discovering the facehuggers, Xenomorphs etc. It feels like Prometheus 1.5.
Re-watching the trailer, this really feels like a series that is out of ideas. Another crew landing on a planet to find another one of those ships, another egg chamber, another face-hugger, another android, more women fleeing down long metal hallways, more alien stalking. This stuff stopped being scary after Aliens. That the shower scene at the end is both a horror movie trope and re-uses the tail-between-the-legs from Alien is just depressing. It's easy to forget - or not even know, if you grew up after Aliens came out - but this series used to be really scary and kinda fucked up. They're so iconic now, but the designs in Alien were incredibly....well, alien. Strange and new and unsettling.
There's NONE of that here. It's so out of ideas that they have to resort to showing a bunch of character deaths just to elicit some sort of reaction. It's just sad at this point.
I think so. My highly uneducated guess is that this is what makes him malfunction (if he is indeed an android in this movie, anyway). I have nothing to back that up, of course.
It was in Alien - but Cameron dropped the perverse sexual undercurrents like a rock and went with full on bug monsters and mostly the sense of sexual perversity has been increasingly lost over time.
Not that it diminishes my enjoyment of Aliens as a great action thriller but only Alien nailed the weird sexual undercurrents of the screenplay events and Geiger's art.
To be fair I'm not sure how much Scott consciously went for that vs it just being inherent in the script and Gieger's designs and Scott going with it. I guess Resurrection tried to bring it back a bit but that was of course a messy all over the place affair.
As an aside when I took a swing by Geiger's museum last year I was reminded on viewing the Alien suit that it had a full and open vagina between its legs to go with its phallic head and tongue. As I seem to remember one review noting: the monster seemed more inclined to fuck you to death than anything else in Alien.
Still - shower scene threesome involving an Alien. Maybe Scott's bringing the sexual perversity back.
Tangentially related: but I feel silly for never noticing before that the Space Jockey telescope (or whatever) is a giant cock'n'balls. I guess everything in this universe is either a peen or a vajayjay.
It's H.R Giger. It's kinda his thing. Kinda like a facehugger is a spider like creature trying to facehug you with a vagina for a mouth.
Facehuggers are probably the only thing in the world that still scare the shit out of me.
