Alien Earth Open Spoiler Thread

It seems like he is pushing their limits to trigger adaptations which would only be possible with the supercomputers inside their cyborg bodies. He has no concern for ethics and his motivation is selfishly pushing human evolution with his technology to create a generation of humanoids that surpass his intelligence.
You'd think someone/megacorps with that kinda cash to burn on experimental bodies would have controlled testing environment for that stuff rather than sending out units on the field where they could become irrecoverably lost shortly after activation.

But as you said there may be more behind sending inexperienced people on a very sensitive mission but I fear the show won't really justify it in the end.
 
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Usually I avoid spoiler threads on shows I'm going to watch, but everything I've been spoiled on with this show has been extremely boring. I had much higher hopes for it based on the cool trailers.
 
Not great but not terrible either. There's something intriguing about the show though that makes me want to keep watching... Maybe it's the characters, I found the acting quite good.

Other than that it's pretty meh. Tonally it's more Alien Resurrection than Alien 1-3.
 
Anyway, I dunno why I'm having this feeling that Wendy is gonna fight the Xeno one on one
I fucking called it and not only fights it, the end result is what you'd expect and off screen of course.

The whole cat and mouse with the Xeno and her brother is just an excuse for the confrontation, which was ridiculous, even comical.

The sets, locations, overall design and vibe of the world are still amazing.
The writing is hogwash, it could be such a nice story if they would have instead focused on the companies and them fucking and sabotaging each other.
 
This show is so close to being really good but just misses the mark. I believe they are overplaying the kid in an adult body a bit. Most of the girls are pulling it off but the two boys (Smee and Slightly) act too silly given the circumstances. It comes across to me exactly what it is, adults roleplaying a child. I am still entertained and see enough potential to keep me watching.
 
Episode 3 deep dive

I had a thought from previous episodes that the eye octupous may have some sort of thought manipulation or mind control, and may be how it escaped in first place, getting previous Maginot scientists to set it free?

Joe's cloth jacket provides more protection from acid blood than Marine armour in Aliens lol

Xeno drone has super long barbed tail with precision targeting when needed, but then has super small tail and poor targeting when trying to fight wendy. It is also still far to dry and plastic looking

Joe is fully impaled, still manages to crawl, walk, work/hack electronics and dash towards Wendy's body, before bleeding/blacking out

Convenient flash light is convenient

Looking at the xeno body next to wendy/Joe, the dimensions seem off, it looks too small, the head has definitely gotten a size reduction from the moonwalking scene in ep1

6 Year old childish behaviour continues, even time for a quick play fight in the middle of a bunch of alien eggs 🙄 - not allowed to swear 😑

Who placed those eggs there?

Cyborg guy gets super sweaty during expositioning

Computer vocalises data transfer at such weird intervals... 78% 93%, nothing before or in-between

The egg that fully opens just before cyborg jumps from opening, is fully closed 0.1 second later in next shot

Poor man's Fleetwood Mac Albatross playing whilst the most dangerous alien known to man at this point, has its body wheeled around in the open for anyone to see, never mind any possible contamination, or keeping this a secret

Boy genius still in pajamas from days ago

Search & Rescue team who were based in New Siam, now randomly redeployed to top secret Prodigy facility. Put them in some red shirts, I think we've got some alien fodder for upcoming episodes!

The only 2 competent synths are the science based synths so far (the Polynesian chick and the tall, skinny black lad), all the others have been super childish, run away, or sat around looking gormless, doing nothing

Is that specimen number 5 there? The bug with the leaky green stuff coming out of it?
So maybe the Predator isn't hiding somewhere in storage?

So what is the egg getting activated by then? We've had years of alien lore where its been movement nearby(possibly just organic), this show has introduced Fear as a component? That egg is opening and closing at will for different reasons, and soo slowly...Where's the speed of the face huggers launching from the eggs? Joe, although being terrified in the dinner scene didn't get an egg activation at all. Cyborg who didn't show that much fear gets a partial egg activation, and the genius who shows no fear gets a partial activation. Its all over the place

Prodigy has cameras in the synths eyes, but not microphones in the ears apparently 🙄 it's mentioned that each synth is a Billion dollars, but need to cut costs somewhere I guess

Yutani Corp (I'm guessing) made/enhanced cyborg for this mission, but failed to implement some sort of tracker to keep track of him

Who is the cyborg working for exactly? Has a direct line and code clearance for Yutani, but in episode 1 sent communications directly to Weyland

As per just a scene or two ago, Prodigy records everything through its Synths eyes, but needs a handheld camera when examing egg? Can the writers not remember thier own story from 10 minutes ago?

The face hugger being examined may be the most interesting scene of the week, seeing the embryo that it implants being taken out. Embryo tadpole has its own intelligence as it swims about for a little while in new surrounding before implanting itself into lung

Convulsing wendy on ground left to do her thing whilst the 2 sci synths and Timothy olyphant continue to experiment

I like Metallica, but the use of rock for credit scenes is still weird
 
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Tldr:
1 interesting scene at very end

Too much childish behaviour still

Writers forget years of alien lore and even things they introduce just minutes before

Ginger synth is the weak link, will set at least 1 species free which will start the total destruction of that private island

Timothy Olyphant is by far the most interesting character, with the cyborg being #2
 
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God damn... Joe got one of his lungs harvested. I hope he at least received an artificial replacement at no charge. Also, the whole high frequency hearing exclusively for Wendy is really dumb if all the prototypes are the same and her becoming catatonic after the face huggers in the eggs freak out makes little sense. I hope the retarded duo and shellshock ginger get less screen time in future episodes.

P.S. Hard to understand how a cyborg made more than half a century ago can remote hack prototype technology.
 
"Joe, Marcy, Joe! Marcy, Marcy! Marcy, Joe, Marcy, Joe, Marcy, Joe, Joe, Marcy MARCY, Joe, DOOR, Marcy! JOE, Marcy, Marcy, Maaaarcyyyy.....Wendy?!?!".

This is peak writing...JFC
 
Peter Pan's archnemesis:

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Wendy is gonna be teaming up with the Preadator and Deckard and they'll go to the Xeno homeworld and eradicate the species.

So the Xeno didn't kill Hermit to then not let him get implanted by the facehugger to imprison him as bait for Wendy?? To not kill any of them again, to Wendy pulling the Xeno by the little mouth like a fucking pig, dominating it physically to then killing the Xeno in pitch black confined space.
The Xeno acid works whenever the writer wants it to work.

And how did the Boy Wonder make his trillions? I thought he didn't care for money anymore, I guess he has mood swings. He's supposed to be super smart, but acts like a moron. Getting flack from his employees, his creations, I mean, they pretty much do what they like.
He has them all implanted with surveillance in their eyes, except for Wendy, because? Standing head first over that egg, Jesus, do the eggs have pheromones that render humans to idiots regardless of intelligence?
 
I think Timothy Olyphant works for Yutani, that's why he was weird in front of the Cyborg, he knows they work for the same company.

I think the billionaire kid infused Wendy with something weird, which is why she hears the aliens and why she is his favorite.

The rescue team was barely featured, but I think they will work with Wendy later on to take on Prodigy, as Wendy discovers what they are doing and what they did to her brother.

The indian and black "kid" are horrible, they overact with the childishness.

I like how Olyphant is more neferious and shady in this episode. And I like the girl who wanted to be the favorite, as she is more serious.

Almost all the xenomorph stuff is weak, the alien peaking into the curtains, jumping on the roof, it feels weird and wrong.
 
done with ep 3 , this is good , very intriguing

I'm loving the show so far, I hope we get more surprises in regards to those "Invasive Species"

Kirsh is my favorite character in the show and I'm hoping he turns into another David. I really like how Kirsh put that one Egg out on purpose since I think he wanted to scare Kavalier so that Kavalier will ban everyone but synths from entering the room. So that Kirsh can do whatever experiments he wants without restrictions. Might be wrong on this though

Morrow is another favorite of mine, I wonder if they will explain how he survived that Xenomorph attack. That Xenomorph just left him alone and killed all those other guys. Is he part machine? Don't remember if they explained that

My only issue with the show is those two boys in men suits. I can see those two behavior getting old fast, so far it hasn't been bothering me but I can see why other posters don't like those characters

So far other than the Xenomorph, I love the look of the eye octopus the most and I can't wait to see what that thing and the other new aliens introduced can do in regards to thier predatory nature

I'm disappointed that we got no Yautja (Name of Predator Species)

I like how the other kids are having distinctive personalities, I think that Curly being setup as another villain to be interesting and I think Nibs was infected by that eye octopus. Nibs will be the one to free all those aliens out of their cages.

I'm really liking the look of all these new alien species introduced in this show. Did the Blood Tick turn into something else? They were blurring it but it's shape drastically changed in that cage they got it in

As for Wendy and Hermit, I like them both but they are kind of bland for me

I think the CGI/Practical Effects were really good and I'm really liking how the show looks overall

So far, really enjoying this and I'm in for the rest of the ride
 
She decapitated a xenomorph with the arm from a paper guillotine?

She decapitated a xenomorph, the heavily armored, highly intelligent murder machine, WITH THE ARM FROM A PAPER GUILLOTINE!?

The androids going "Dude.....Bro." in front of the egg nest was a hell of thing as well and the alien embryo also knows how to swim....somehow....because....instantaneous evolution? The brother gets acid on his arm but it only gets through his jacket and then his shirt somehow stops it in its tracks even though it just burned through a metal cargo container?

I'm watching this thing all the way to the end now, I don't care how many brain cells it costs me. I need to see how much more retarded it can get.
 
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So is Timothy Olyphant Roy Batty's android model? Why does he look like Rutger Hauer? What's the deal?
I was thinking he's an homage to Rutger Hauer. Bladerunner and Alien are in the same universe, well not officially confirmed there are many connections.
 
This should always be the result when a human or a synth gets close quarters with a Xeno, especially this one that's capable of mauling 10 people in seconds.

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"Thank God there weren't any Ice Age references" is not something that I thought I would say one day while watching an Alien movie.

But we get Peter Pan reference and the characters discussing Peter Pan because why not.

I hope the 2 synth boys "grow up" in the next episodes because stuff like:

- "Bro, Bro, Bro, bro ..."
and
- "You said fuck, You said shit"

makes me want to put my head through the TV.

I really like Kirsh and Morrow, more the actors than their characters, although they have an interesting story and potential, but sadly they're bound to the same writing.
How is Morrow, a Cyborg with 65 years old tech able to hack a brand new state of the art synthetic? I'm missing something here.

And lol at how casual all the security and medics are around the Xeno, like "Just another Tuesday, nothing to see here"

IDK, the music choices, some visuals, some parts of the plot and all the branching storylines give me a vibe that this was something else initially and then they just included the Xeno, the Nostromo lookalike, changed some bits and pieces and called it Alien.
 
This should always be the result when a human or a synth gets close quarters with a Xeno, especially this one that's capable of mauling 10 people in seconds.

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Yes and no. Alien Isolation showed they don't prioritize them as prey. Shoving them aside is normal behavior imo. The Queen in Aliens is much smarter than most xenos.
 
IDK, the music choices, some visuals, some parts of the plot and all the branching storylines give me a vibe that this was something else initially and then they just included the Xeno, the Nostromo lookalike, changed some bits and pieces and called it Alien.
This is true for a LOOOOOOOOT of 'genre' TV these days. The show writers have their 'masterwork about divorce' but no one will fund it so they slap a sci-fi skin on it and PRESTO now we have an alien invasion show that just dwells on a couples bickering and the alien shit is tacked on in the first and last 2 minutes of each episode.
 
Yes and no. Alien Isolation showed they don't prioritize them as prey. Shoving them aside is normal behavior imo. The Queen in Aliens is much smarter than most xenos.
Well, first that's a game, so rules there are a bit different. And second, no synthetic attacks the Xeno, I'm sure if the plot went that way, no synthetic would stand a chance or the Xeno would just stand there to be beaten up because they're not prey.

Aliens isn't perfect, has some faults in this department as well, what can be done, what can't, depending on the plot. And I'm not talking about the Queen, just using that image for showing purpose, realistically the Queen should have tossed Ripley with the loader into space no problem.

The idea that the Xeno was being ridiculed by a child in a synthetic body, with no experience, close quarters in the dark with a paper cutter, which should have been melted by the acid.
If it had been Kirsh, maybe, but I was under the impression that whilst synthetics are strong they're not as strong as a Xeno.

Or all I'm saying is wrong and Wendy is built from something more powerful than anything and she's the one synthetic the end all Xenos.
 
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Well, first that's a game, so rules there are a bit different. And second, no synthetic attacks the Xeno, I'm sure if the plot went that way, no synthetic would stand a chance or the Xeno would just stand there to be beaten up because they're not prey.

Aliens isn't perfect, has some faults in this department as well, what can be done, what can't, depending on the plot. And I'm not talking about the Queen, just using that image for showing purpose, realistically the Queen should have tossed Ripley with the loader into space no problem.

The idea that the Xeno was being ridiculed by a child in a synthetic body, with no experience, close quarters in the dark with a paper cutter, which should have been melted by the acid.
If it had been Kirsh, maybe, but I was under the impression that whilst synthetics are strong they're not as strong as a Xeno.

I get the impression Alien androids are around blade runner level. They can tank hits and crush a human skull but they aren't terminators. They can take a xeno in some circumstances but the xeno will kill them most others.
 
I get the impression Alien androids are around blade runner level. They can tank hits and crush a human skull but they aren't terminators. They can take a xeno in some circumstances but the xeno will kill them most others.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, circumstances being the experience and not close quarters, not hand to hand.

But I don't know anymore, they all do what they want, especially now with the prequels not canon to this TV show. I'm bringing this because in Alien Covenant, Walter gets his hand bitten off easily and I would think he's one of the most advanced synths.
 
The idea that the Xeno was being ridiculed by a child in a synthetic body, with no experience, close quarters in the dark with a paper cutter, which should have been melted by the acid.
If it had been Kirsh, maybe, but I was under the impression that whilst synthetics are strong they're not as strong as a Xeno.

Or all I'm saying is wrong and Wendy is built from something more powerful than anything and she's the one synthetic the end all Xenos.
Wendy lightly jumped off a ledge and dropped like 50+ feet and landed like she had just played jump rope. Whatever she is made from, it is strong as all fuck.
 
eps 3 :rolleyes: of course mary sue can hear all the weird alien noises but the other synths cant, also the dumbness of WY not having a tracker on the cyborg.
 
I'm loving the show so far, I hope we get more surprises in regards to those "Invasive Species"

Kirsh is my favorite character in the show and I'm hoping he turns into another David. I really like how Kirsh put that one Egg out on purpose since I think he wanted to scare Kavalier so that Kavalier will ban everyone but synths from entering the room. So that Kirsh can do whatever experiments he wants without restrictions. Might be wrong on this though

Morrow is another favorite of mine, I wonder if they will explain how he survived that Xenomorph attack. That Xenomorph just left him alone and killed all those other guys. Is he part machine? Don't remember if they explained that

My only issue with the show is those two boys in men suits. I can see those two behavior getting old fast, so far it hasn't been bothering me but I can see why other posters don't like those characters

So far other than the Xenomorph, I love the look of the eye octopus the most and I can't wait to see what that thing and the other new aliens introduced can do in regards to thier predatory nature

I'm disappointed that we got no Yautja (Name of Predator Species)

I like how the other kids are having distinctive personalities, I think that Curly being setup as another villain to be interesting and I think Nibs was infected by that eye octopus. Nibs will be the one to free all those aliens out of their cages.

I'm really liking the look of all these new alien species introduced in this show. Did the Blood Tick turn into something else? They were blurring it but it's shape drastically changed in that cage they got it in

As for Wendy and Hermit, I like them both but they are kind of bland for me

I think the CGI/Practical Effects were really good and I'm really liking how the show looks overall

So far, really enjoying this and I'm in for the rest of the ride
noticed it , def a plus
 
Wendy lightly jumped off a ledge and dropped like 50+ feet and landed like she had just played jump rope. Whatever she is made from, it is strong as all fuck.
Well, yeah they could always create a thing that's even stronger if the plot demands it and so on and so forth.
Wendy could eradicate the Xeno race for all I care, after she killed the Xeno I mentally checked out of the show anyway.

Honestly, I don't really care that much anymore; with all the continuity bullshit, every director just changes direction. These directors and Fox or Disney or who the fuck owns Alien now are like the Alien fandom.
- Fans of the first two,
- Fans that like all of them and are trying to make some sense
- Fans that created their own canon
- Fans that just hate the prequels
- And then fans who are just happy to see the Xeno no matter how bad the movie is.

Say what you will about Alien 3 and Res, but at least those movies tried to take the story forward and Res was entertaining.
 
I like Oliphants character. It is interesting.

Like I said episode 2 Alien can kill everything but the plot device. And I think the how is dumb, but enjoyable. I don't know how killing an Alien gets you tied to their consciousness.
 
I don't know how killing an Alien gets you tied to their consciousness.
I think she could hear it before, it has something to do with how she can hear higher frequencies than humans. There were some tests with her in episode 1 I think.
 
I think she could hear it before, it has something to do with how she can hear higher frequencies than humans. There were some tests with her in episode 1 I think.

Thanks for paying attention. I appreciate the breakdown.

My little brother (16 years younger) says the show is great.
 
Thanks for paying attention. I appreciate the breakdown.

My little brother (16 years younger) says the show is great.
I got a friend who is a very peripheral nerd, usually glomming on to just 1 or 2 sci-fi properties at a time, who also loves the show. I think that's because to him the notion of consciousness transference alone is mind-blowing, whereas for me, a reader that has consumed countless books that explore this concept, the show feels very superficial and cavalier about that aspect alone, much less a lot of the other concepts they are throwing around.

So this show is kinda like a sci-fi buffet where you get a little taste of a bunch of different things, but only in a quick and easy to prepare way for each one.

Stylistically I think the show makes some bold choices, some I like but others I don't (the music and score). I too find it almost IMPOSSIBLE to believe that cyborg guy comes back after 65(?!?!) years and simultaneously can seamlessly integrate into technology that should be lightyears more advanced yet he also doesn't know who is actually his boss. The writing tries SO HARD to be clever but either the editing/sequence of shots or just rewrites constantly hamstring one idea for another. They will say "your synth body doesn't produce stress hormones, so you won't feel emotions" in one scene and then have the synths react in jump scare fright in another like they just got a shot of adrenaline and a spike in heart rate. They can't commit to really exploring any one idea in any depth so its all just stuff regurgitated from other things and thrown at the wall.
 
Stylistically I think the show makes some bold choices, some I like but others I don't (the music and score). I too find it almost IMPOSSIBLE to believe that cyborg guy comes back after 65(?!?!) years and simultaneously can seamlessly integrate into technology that should be lightyears more advanced yet he also doesn't know who is actually his boss.
I said about this, it's just simply dumb as fuck, unless and a big unless, someone from inside Prodigy, someone like Kirsh is working in secret for Wey-YU and somehow sends Morrow some kind of tech to do that.
The writing tries SO HARD to be clever but either the editing/sequence of shots or just rewrites constantly hamstring one idea for another. They will say "your synth body doesn't produce stress hormones, so you won't feel emotions" in one scene and then have the synths react in jump scare fright in another like they just got a shot of adrenaline and a spike in heart rate. They can't commit to really exploring any one idea in any depth so its all just stuff regurgitated from other things and thrown at the wall.
I think just the writing in that scene is idiotic as hell. They say to Wendy that while she doesn't have those hormones naturally, they've tried to simulate them and they can also increase the intensity. So I'm guessing all the children in synth bodies have this thing.
 
I think just the writing in that scene is idiotic as hell. They say to Wendy that while she doesn't have those hormones naturally, they've tried to simulate them and they can also increase the intensity. So I'm guessing all the children in synth bodies have this thing.
That may well be, but wouldn't have been cooler to have these child brains have to react to things that SHOULD scare them, but now they are cool, steady creatures? Do they miss physiologic functions (ok, we know one of them likes not having to poop). How/why do they sleep? Are they even anatomically correct? Personally, having a pre-teen boy in my house right now, the two synth boys would ABSOLUTELY be checking out their new junk (or bemoaning the lack of it), that would have read as completely authentic :P

All that time we wasted on Wendy's brother and the totally disposable S&R squad could have been spent on these synth kids who seem far more important to the plot.
 
I got a friend who is a very peripheral nerd, usually glomming on to just 1 or 2 sci-fi properties at a time, who also loves the show. I think that's because to him the notion of consciousness transference alone is mind-blowing, whereas for me, a reader that has consumed countless books that explore this concept, the show feels very superficial and cavalier about that aspect alone, much less a lot of the other concepts they are throwing around.
To summarize, this show is pulp. World's most expensive looking show but they hire a writer for a nickle to mash together a grab-bag of pop-sci. Gonna pass on episode 3 and the rest...
 
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To summarize, this show is pulp. World's most expensive looking show but they hire a writer for a nickle to mash together a grab-bag of pop-sci.
I'm not even sure this show would qualify as pulp, which to me has an element of reveling in (or at least an acceptance of) its own cheesiness, whereas Alien:Earth feels DEATHLY SERIOUS with a writers room of folks holding their noses to avoid suffocating on their own farts.

But I can only imagine all the demands on a show like this, every little decision probably had to run through 20 people with veto power, which is why there are so many direct call-backs to stuff, it's just easier to get approved so they can move on. So I'll just take the wins where I can get them. At least most of the women are fairly cute and it is delightfully gory.
 
That may well be, but wouldn't have been cooler to have these child brains have to react to things that SHOULD scare them, but now they are cool, steady creatures? Do they miss physiologic functions (ok, we know one of them likes not having to poop). How/why do they sleep? Are they even anatomically correct? Personally, having a pre-teen boy in my house right now, the two synth boys would ABSOLUTELY be checking out their new junk (or bemoaning the lack of it), that would have read as completely authentic :P
Of course, but I don't even know exactly how they function because of that conversation:
- Wendy: My breasts are weird - clearly an emotion.
- How are your emotions?
- Wendy: IDK, they're quiet now. - meaning she doesn't feel anything all of a sudden??
- You don't have hormones, we've tried to simulate them.
- Should we increase the intensity?
- No, she's not human anymore.
- Wendy: So, what am I?
- Whatever you want.

Riveting dialogue, from which you don't understand anything. If they are simulating their emotions, which ones and which ones not? As you said, physiologic functions, do they have simulated emotions for those? if so, that's some confusing shit right there.
Don't know exactly if ep 1 or 2, a child synth says they miss food, why would they simulate that emotion if they don't have that need anymore?

All that time we wasted on Wendy's brother and the totally disposable S&R squad could have been spent on these synth kids who seem far more important to the plot.
You know, that would be an amazing show, if the writing was done by not a monkey and the plot would be enough with the synth existential crisis + the corporations sabotaging each other and whatnot.

Ditch the Xeno - which at this point is guest starring, it's clearly there to move the plot and kill fodder people -, don't name the show Alien and I wouldn't have any problem with it, even if it was still in the Alien universe.
 
Ditch the Xeno - which at this point is guest starring, it's clearly there to move the plot and kill fodder people -, don't name the show Alien and I wouldn't have any problem with it, even if it was still in the Alien universe.
I agree that the Xeno is not really a major factor in this show and the name does not make much sense. However, if you just experience the show without thinking too much about it, it does have some entertaining scenes.
 
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