Swift_Star
Banned
Is it an option on the Switch? It’s not going to be on this.
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All-new PlayStation Plus launches in June with three flexible membership options
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Topher
Identifies as young
I assume users with PS+ and PSNow were expecting Sony to sweeten the pot. You used to be able to get that combo for $120 a year, now you can get that combo for $120 a year.
But you are ignoring the middle tier option that gives you downloadable part of PS Now for less money.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
It was up 7 million in one year, it's growing faster every year, not at the same rate. That's before we even think about Activision and all the stuff we know is coming in the future (Bethesda games, Fable etc). Elden Scrolls VI alone will be enough to bring a lot of people into the fold. 100m is just a sample figure anyway, nobody here knows what they have to reach to be happy and that equation will be unfathomably complicated with every factor at play. But that will naturally include things like (as an example, may not happen) rolling WoW subscriptions into Game Pass. They're all-in on it, they've made that very clear by now.
Point is whether it takes 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, it will be sustainable, and video games aren't going anywhere fast.
CosmicComet
Member
Based on what do you presume the that the vast majority of users (enough of a majority for you to say it will double gamepass' subs)will upgrade?
I certainly won't.
Sony had a chance to combine psnow and plus into one sub for the same price of plus alone and they didn't.
NeoGaf is for gaming ENTHUSIASTS and not the average consumer. This forum lives in a totally different bubble from the rest of the world.
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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
I have all systems and online services. Just because I have an opinion on something that differs from your clearly one sided blinded one doesn't mean I can't see both sides.
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legacy24
Member
yeah I can just wait for the exclusives to come to the service and subscribe for the mid tier to play em
Swift_Star
Banned
You’re not everyone. Sony will market the middle tier the most and people will jump on it. It offers the best value out of the three. It’s not rocket science.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Gotta see what those PSone/PS2/PSP actually are and how they work/presented
Announcements like this are so vague, there should of been a trailer showing you what you're actually signing up for.
What's available and what not
It can be a "not interested" or a "sign me up" depending how it's done.
Announcements like this are so vague, there should of been a trailer showing you what you're actually signing up for.
What's available and what not
It can be a "not interested" or a "sign me up" depending how it's done.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Yes, this is true. I think it will be worse for the casual gamers. They could care less about the older system games, and once they hear no day and date they will not subscribe. It's PSNOW with a shiny new coat, how was that doing?
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DJ12
Member
To be fair they have so much money the interest from the bank would cover the lose rofl
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Topher
Identifies as young
Of course they didn't. Why would anyone expect Sony to just give PS Now away to PS+ members?
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Crimson_Fate
Member
I do like how they are still supporting playstation 4 with all this cross gen but still managed to wittle down the free games again..
I'm paid up till 2025, hopefully PSVR2 is compatible with PC so I can jump ship after this gen.
I'm paid up till 2025, hopefully PSVR2 is compatible with PC so I can jump ship after this gen.
mcjmetroid
Member
Oh boy haha.
Well well need to see the games first.
Well well need to see the games first.
Swift_Star
Banned
The casuals will be happy to get downloadable ps4 games and some of the new ps5 games with that sub. They’re perfectly happy with the ps plus collection as it is, this is just icing on the cake. Most users will subscribe to the middle tier. It’s just what will happen.
93xfan
Banned
No reason my digital PS1 collection bought on my PS3 shouldn’t be free. Any PS1 game I own that they re-release and keep behind a paywall is a slap in the face.Why is so expensive to play ps1, psp and ps2 games?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I'll ask again: Where's the fake outrage for the fact Switch doesn't have a Gamepass equivalent?
There's 3 console manufacturers...but somehow only Sony needs one. Why?
There's 3 console manufacturers...but somehow only Sony needs one. Why?
schaft0620
Member
It seems like it is what is already in PSNow with a few PS5 and PS4 games. The numbers add up to that.
Lone Wolf
Member
I don’t mean those, I mean these…100% these dont disappear?
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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Well if Swift Star says it, it must be so.
Again, since this is still basically ps plus and psnow together, why isn't there 25 million psnow subs already if what you say is true?
sainraja
Member
I do hope this ends up being true.
CosmicComet
Member
Because then they could make a second tier that was actually worth it.
PS Now was always overpriced.
Hari Seldon
Member
The more I think about this, the more I am ok with it. My gaming spending will go down with this, especially in the playstation echo system.
Optimal Gaming Solution:
Optimal Gaming Solution:
- Multiplayer and Digital Purchases = PC
- no online tax, no worries about backwards compatibility in the future
- Physical Purchases = Nintendo
- Nintendo games hold value and are multi-generational
- Gamepass Sub - month to month
- Need to maintain sub to make Xbox S not a brick, sub also works on PC
- Since no yearly discount, cancel as necessary if playing something else
- PS+ Sub - 1 month per year
- Playstation only has single player exclusive games, so only need 1 month sub per year to catch up on the ones that are not on the other platforms
Swift_Star
Banned
More games will be coming to the service according to the blog post. It seems they’ll heavily invest in this service, just not with their own first party games.
But I suspect select first party games, live service ones specially, will be released on it.
93xfan
Banned
You are not. They are downgrading PS+.
Also, saved games in the cloud are behind the most expensive paywall in the industry
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Swift_Star
Banned
People don’t know ps now exists and it’s not available everywhere. Sony didn’t invest on it neither marketed it.
It is not that hard to understand why things are the way they are.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
So it’s not backwards compatible with the digital PS1 and PS2 games I bought years ago. It’s selective titles for the new service? It’s very confusing. Even if I get the highest tier. My old library is still stuck on a legacy device?
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CosmicComet
Member
And you dont speak for everyone.
If I won't because I dont see the value, you can bet your ass a lot of others won't either.
You stupidly said they instantly doubled gamepass subs when at no point did that happen and now are having to justify your haphazard comment on a remote pie in the sky possbility that isn't happening.
You clearly didn't understand what was being presented and now you're stuck looking like a fool.
My prediction, maybe 15% of ps plus current users upgrade to middle tier at most.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
So basically:
- PSPlus
- PSPlus + (PSNow - Streaming)
- PSPlus + PSNow + retro + demos?
And maybe some better games to download than current PSNow?
- PSPlus
- PSPlus + (PSNow - Streaming)
- PSPlus + PSNow + retro + demos?
And maybe some better games to download than current PSNow?
a multicultural team of v
Member
Kind of wonder what upgrades the old games will have. I highly doubt they are adding trophies to them, but I do want to know what kind of other features there are. I've been on a CRT kick lately and would need something pretty significant to want to play them on my PS5 and LCD as opposed to the actual hardware on a CRT.
I don't even know what they could possibly add though so likely I won't be using it much.
I don't even know what they could possibly add though so likely I won't be using it much.
A.Romero
Member
You think they will stop offering PS+ games for PS4?
That middle tier sounds great for me, I usually play games after release when they are discounted - if I play them at all. 5 top tier bangers named and I've played none of them and there are 400 more? I'm not sure why people are so upset , Sony aren't going to move away from what made them the market leader. MS had do something new because they clearly had no chance competing with Sony on quality first party games. Why do you think they bought two massive publishers, they were desperate.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Probably but currently we don't actually know jack shit so I wouldn't jump to any conclusions negative or positive at the moment.
Also the question of how those games on the service will work, will they be on a cycle like Gamepass or will they just add to them?
And if they're on a cycle do the ones you download disappear after time?
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Jimmyisback
Banned
Nothing for me here. What a dissapointment.
Swift_Star
Banned
Im 100% sure of what I’m saying. You believing me or not doesn’t change what is going to happen and I couldn’t care less. It is what it is.
kyliethicc
Member
They added PS1 games and PS5 game trials for the $120/year.I assume users with PS+ and PSNow were expecting Sony to sweeten the pot. You used to be able to get that combo for $120 a year, now you can get that combo for $120 a year.
Or ditch the old games and streaming, pay $100/year and still get hundreds of PS4/5 games.
Its nothing that great but its objectively a better deal than before.
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Topher
Identifies as young
A second tier? How does a second tier work with combing them into one sub?
Jesus, what a load of nonsense. Sony are market leader because of the quality of their games- that isn't changing. The gamepass ball hugging is hilarious.
NickFire
Member
Very happy to hear there is no base PS+ price increase. I'm also kind of happy they are not doing day 1 games yet. I might change my mind on the day 1 stuff down the road, but so far no one has convinced me that it is a viable pathway for getting the games I enjoy for a cheaper price than I already pay.
kyliethicc
Member
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
It's true that PS+ isn't increasing in price, but the value is objectively worse now that they'll only be doing two games per month. Instead of the current three. Used to be like 8.
NickFire
Member
Not an issue for me. I spend more time bitching about the quality of the "free games" than I do playing them anyway. Except for Maneater. That shark game sucked me in for some reason.
They did that for the PS4 when it launched. Plus was giving Vita, PS3 and PS4 games from 2013-12 to 2019-02. Now they are doing it a lot earlier than before.
Interested in the mid tier... will depend of the list and how often they will add games that i would be interested to play.
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CosmicComet
Member
....By creating a second tier that has more than PS+ and PS Now as it exists?
I dont know what you didn't understand.
They could have taken this third tier and made it the second tier and only other tier while combing PS+ and PS Now as the base tier.
As the tiers are now, its garbage.
ManaByte
Banned
No they don’t. Only shady sites do. They’ve been gone for a while.