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All-new PlayStation Plus launches in June with three flexible membership options
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Waiting for articles and threads:
"What Gamepass needs to do to catch up to PS+"
"Will Gamepass ever reach PS+ numbers?"
"How can MS compete with PS+ that has a 2x lead on Gamepass?"
Bojji
Gold Member
Very funny, considering the state of Playstation in Japan
Anything other than Nintendo is in such state.
Swift_Star
Banned
And we don’t know how this will happen on the pc side. It might cease to exist entirely.
SkylineRKR
Member
Those subs are fine and dandy and I have both Plus and GP, but face it, the very best games, imo, you won't find on these day one.
This year, Elden Ring, GT7, Horizon 2, Ghostwire. None of these hit those services. I bought 2 of them, and kind of on the fence for Ghostwire while I suspect Horizon 2 _might_ be on Plus tier 2/3 by summer at the earliest.
This year, Elden Ring, GT7, Horizon 2, Ghostwire. None of these hit those services. I bought 2 of them, and kind of on the fence for Ghostwire while I suspect Horizon 2 _might_ be on Plus tier 2/3 by summer at the earliest.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Interesting timing. They posted this yesterday a few hours after the announcement btw.
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Swift_Star
Banned
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Swift_Star
Banned
Yes, Netflix innovated.
And Sony too with PS Now.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Something you might not know: PS Now was never available outside a select of countries. Now This PS+ Extra/Deluxe is at least available download-based and I've said that many times before that one would've helped PS Now if it was available outside streamable countries. You SHOULD expect a growth there because it was literally impossible to have PS Now here and wanted to try it so I can play Ace Combat there for example.
Also Xbox doesn't have a local market here, no Arabic support as I'm aware of. Most people here avoid AAA games that need understanding English, that's why games that have extensive localization like AC games, Uncharted, and many similar games have a worldwide success instead of just US/UK success.
PS+ in Oman PS Store is $49.99, PS5 games are $72 after VAT, PS4 games are $60-63 after VAT (5%). You sometimes find cheaper deals than the US store, which is famous worldwide to be the best store overall price-wise. I use a US account though. Indies seem to be cheaper in the Omani store as well.
Because of that, there are no Xbox vendors, and most of them are US-market if you find any. You might take this lightly, but this is something pretty big and why PS is so dominant worldwide, along with having the best games.
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Silent Viper
Banned
No day and date and stream only PS3 games? Smh. Pathetic incompetent company. Sorry for language but im sick of Sony not offering cheaper option for games and keep pushing 70$ into our throats
FrankWza
Member
Not when this happenedMicrosoft forgot it exists too
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Microsoft is increasing the price of Xbox Live Gold
This is the first Xbox Live Gold price increase in years.
www.theverge.com
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
As those PS1/PS2/PSP games are going to be downloadable do you think you can actually buy them too without the subscription?
I'm trying to understand the situation here as you already have access to PS2 Classics
What's different here?
Clearly PSX & PSP are new.
But are these titles gonna be different to the ones available and locked behind the Premium Subscription?
I'm trying to understand the situation here as you already have access to PS2 Classics
What's different here?
Clearly PSX & PSP are new.
But are these titles gonna be different to the ones available and locked behind the Premium Subscription?
Swift_Star
Banned
Good thing Sony knows how much their games are worth.
anothertech
Member
Ya, all 10 of them...
Chukhopops
Member
Shouldn’t there be at least 25M XBL Gold subscribers since everyone is using the $1 conversion trick according to GAF experts?
ZywyPL
Banned
Especially with that "organic" acquisition of Gaikai... Netflix isn't anything new either, it just follows what HBO, Canal+ etc. were doing for all those years, except not tied just to cable television.
Silent Viper
Banned
Keep doing gate keeping and defend your beloved brand.
Good good,hope Sony sharing their profits with you.
Helghan
Member
Well no, since they can combine the membership counts of every subscription with each other, so they'll add the game pass subscribers to the +90 million monthly active Xbox Live users. A lot of them aren't paying for XBL, but who cares, we're not even comparing the right subscriptions with each other, so just count everything.
saintjules
Gold Member
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Exactly like the psnow that's been around since 2014 a subscription service that offered cloud gaming way before any other constructor...So innovative that it took them most of a gen to finally be able to follow.
Now maybe stop the revisionism.
psnow didn't innovate anything they bought two company that was doing that and changed the name of it ...gaikai and onlive
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
You people have the most flimsy definition of innovation
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Then you might want to make the exact same post to the poster I was replying to or does that only bother you one way ?
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
But they should be. I don't see any reason why every game ever made, plus every new game to be released, can't be on a subscription service from day one. The age of paying money for a single game would end overnight if people could play it on their subscription service of choice on day one.
I'm at a loss as to why this isn't an option yet.
Papacheeks
Banned
More info on PS classics which is exiting:
www.famitsu.com
Bryank75
You should be proud of good old Jimbo, he's seen the light of classic games.
PlayStation Plusの新サービスが6月開始へ。数百のPS4/5タイトルが定額プレイ可能なExtraと、PS1/PS2/PSPタイトルなども遊べるPremiumの2種が上位版として登場 | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com
PlayStation Plusの新サービスが発表。従来のものと合わせて3種類となり6月より提供開始予定。
www.famitsu.com
Bryank75
You should be proud of good old Jimbo, he's seen the light of classic games.
T-Cake
Member
It better be the PS5 version or that really is just a slap in the face to their customers.
There was gaming streaming before psnow that's the point. If we want to be pedantic I could tell you that I am not aware of any "all you can eat" service in the gaming market ala gamepass before Ms introduced it but maybe I'm wrong. Feel free to correct me
Swift_Star
Banned
They share their good games as does Nintendo.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Ps now once again was a subscription service allowing to play a selection of games and a few years before gamepass.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Yeah, it was called Onlive, followed by PSNow
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Not really...the way he says "I've heard from people who have played with it that it looks great on PlayStation 4 and 5." says it all. He just couldn't give a damn about this.More info on PS classics which is exiting:
PlayStation Plusの新サービスが6月開始へ。数百のPS4/5タイトルが定額プレイ可能なExtraと、PS1/PS2/PSPタイトルなども遊べるPremiumの2種が上位版として登場 | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com
PlayStation Plusの新サービスが発表。従来のものと合わせて3種類となり6月より提供開始予定。
But yeah...at least they are giving us this.
Kilau
Member
Did OnLive ever offer a catalog of games? I know at the start they charged a monthly fee and you still had to buy the games. I used the service but never bought anything, I think they gave me one free game.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
They did. It was called PlayBack. Had a small library from what I remember. Like, maybe 30 or 40 games
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I'm not talking about streaming. Ps Now was an absolutely unsuccessful service precisely because it was only streaming.....Sony tried to fix things ... by allowing some games to be downloaded but gamepass was out there proving the difference.
Xcloud = Psnow
Sony still today it has nothing really comparable to gamepass (not even the new ps +)
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
You're talking about an "all you can eat" service.
Onlive had that
PSNow has that
The form of delivery is irrelevent
Party McHardy
Member
I’m confused. Which tier allows me to play Tenchu and Way of the Samurai?
The form of delivery is one of the main the reasons why gamepass is a success and psnow has been practically a total failure
Swift_Star
Banned
Still not innovative.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Stop moving the goal post. You asked was there anything before game pass that gave you an all you can eat service. Onlive and PSNow is your answer.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
You need to understand : cloud gaming =/= not innovation but downloading games == true innovation.I fail to get the logic there just like to me streaming is more an all you can eat buffet since you don't have to download(bring the food home) so it works even better with its own metaphor.
But sure he will argue that success or delivery method are relevant when they are not .Just like any service where you could go into a store of which you are a member and if they let you take any game you wanted it would've worked too.But yeah it is hard to keep your head cool when you are blinded by confirmation bias.
the numbers say otherwise
and again streaming isn't what gamepass is doing stop being obtuse. Psnow was basically Onlive with some ps games available in some regions that's it. Gamepass is a day one release service with an instant library where you can choose how and where to play.
Psnow was just xcloud less day one releases
the new ps+ is the old ps+ with psnow added
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yet numbers are in no way indicativ of innovation just success, look at fifa no innovation and sales about as crazy as your imagination about this topic.
There wasn't anything like gamepass before of it ...in the gaming industry
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Sure keep repeating yourself, it will truly show the value of each point you brought that has been proven wrong.But I guess when you have nothing else it is still better than nothing.You know what would be a good thing too?
Admiting you were wrong and that it was not innovative but iterative at best.Especially when everybody pointed that Psnow works exactly in the context of your posts ...Before you moved the goalpost as usual.
begotten
Member
Well there was actually.
But sure you're right, Gamepass stood out for giving away subscriptions and having Day 1 releases.
Swift_Star
Banned
iPhones sell massive numbers and they're rarely innovative, they iterate on existent things, but they don't create stuff. So... Numbers =/= innovation.
SportsFan581
Member
There is no PC specific subscription for PSNow, currently anyway. Just a PC app that works with a standard PSNow sub. The price is doubled for streaming access after the announced changes. We'll see if they announce something further.