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[jimmypython]

wait, PSP~PS3 are streaming only??

 

[reksveks]

Am I the only one that noticed this?

• Two monthly downloadable games

I was going to ask how many does ps+ users get now, its 3 or 4 right?

 

[xHunter]

I am waiting for confirmation but it should do otherwise I am jumping to onto a lawsuit.

I bought ps now like 3 days ago for a year and a 12 month card ps now today.

When the new PlayStation Plus service launches, PlayStation Now will transition into the new PlayStation Plus offering and will no longer be available as a standalone service. PlayStation Now customers will migrate over to PlayStation Plus Premium with no increase to their current subscription fees at launch.

Literally says it in the OP

 

[splattered]

Curious to see performance/enhancements of older titles! I'm not paying $18 per month for those unless they add improvements like Xbox does.

 

[Rubik8]

Need to see a games list before I pass final judgment. But initial impressions are ugh. Not satisfactory.

 

[adamsapple]

No.

Realistically that's a very minor difference between what he leaked and what came out, things like that could very well have been modified between then and now.

But in general at least this is setting a precedent that he does have legitimate contacts in the industry.

 

[MHubert]

I can't believe people were expecting first party games at launch. Most of those games sell like crazy, why on Earth would Sony go down that route when there's no reason for it and would probably end up being a lot less profitable for them?

I dont get it either. Its as if some people think that a high-end escort should feel threatened by the cracker down the street giving out every second blower for free.

 

[CeeJay]

GP on consoles has 447 games
GP on PC has 413 games

Damn.. didn't realise there were nearly as many as console on PC GP, they have really caught up.

 

[reksveks]

When the new PlayStation Plus service launches, PlayStation Now will transition into the new PlayStation Plus offering and will no longer be available as a standalone service. PlayStation Now customers will migrate over to PlayStation Plus Premium with no increase to their current subscription fees at launch.

Literally says it in the OP

Missed that, sorry, cheers.

 

[Ezquimacore]

Well at least is not shit, not exciting, but not shit.

 

[Lupin25]

Not exactly a fan of the pricing, but 400-500 PS4/PS5 games is enticing nonetheless…

I borrowed, but never bought Returnal or Death Stranding (and probably the Director’s Cut too). That’s almost $200.00 CAD for me.

I’m pulling the trigger lol.

 

[Ogbert]

So, in short, the only thing that would make it worthwhile, being Day 1 games, isn’t happening.

 

[Bragr]

I can't believe people were expecting first party games at launch. Most of those games sell like crazy, why on Earth would Sony go down that route when there's no reason for it and would probably end up being a lot less profitable for them?

Because it will lead more and more people to Game Pass where they don't have to spend 70 bucks per game.

The problem here for Sony is that Xbox got a fantastic service right now where you don't have to purchase day one exclusives titles, and you get them across PC and consoles, with cross-save and cloud streaming. And all that is up and running.

Right now Sony got enough massive studios to produce tons of great games, but when the Bethesda machine starts up Xbox will easily match them, and when you combine that with Game Pass that will offer all of this within the service, it's gonna draw players over to Xbox, away from Sony.

This lackluster PS+ shit right here is gonna get smacked by Xbox over the next few years unless Sony takes this more seriously and understands what they are up against.

 

[TVexperto]

wait, PSP~PS3 are streaming only??

this is bad. i dont want to stream...

 

[Shmunter]

Holy yawn Batman. It’s literally putting me to sleep

 

[Luipadre]

essential it is.

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

What a bunch of junk. Why in the hell would 90% of the population ever subscribe to that highest tier? And the streaming doesn't include any first party day 1 releases like Game Pass does? Fuck off. I bet it wont include any day one releases first party or not because Sony. Try harder before I go get me an Xbox.

 

[Swift_Star]

Only fanboys said this was a direct competitor to gamepass. I shouldn't need to remind you that PS is doing just fine without it.

Xbox fanboys, you might add. Sony doesn’t need to compete directly with gamepass, neither does Nintendo.

 

[Craig of War]

So no day 1 games
PS3 games still streaming
that 2nd tier cost the same as gamepass ultimate and now they lock PS3 game streaming to a even more expensive tier lol easy pass for me

 

[Leyasu]

BOOM! And just like that double the subscribers of the Game Pass. Your move, Microsoft.

Yeah I suppose the “double the subscribers” is something to wave your Sony flag about.

What happens to the plain old Ps+ subscribers? Do they have to pay more now?

 

[ethomaz]

No.

Yeap he was wrong again in both price and features.
Basically a random guess.

 

[Abriael_GN]

I was going to ask how many does ps+ users get now, its 3 or 4 right?

Usually 3 with the occasional 4 that is an extra.

 

[Black_Stride]

PS+ Extra sounds really great, 400 PS4/5 games right out of the gate, nice.

We need that list though.
Im guessing its the PSNow catalogue plus a few newer PS4/5 games.

 

[AV]

Realistically that's a very minor difference between what he leaked and what came out, things like that could very well have been modified between then and now.

But in general at least this is setting a precedent that he does have legitimate contacts in the industry.

Then he wasn't 100% right, was he? I'm aware he stuck "this could all change" as a safety net, just as he did when he claimed Goldeneye remastered was going to be announced some time in the last month and wasn't. It's no secret that Grubb has ears inside the industry but that doesn't make everything he says worth listening to when things do indeed change so frequently and rapidly.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

 

[adamsapple]

Xbox fanboys, you might add. Sony doesn’t need to compete directly with gamepass, neither does Nintendo.

I think you're projecting it a little too much. Xbox fanboys didn't say anything, all the gaming outlets like IGN, Gamespot, Venture Beats etc are the ones who kept calling it "Sony's Game Pass".

Then he wasn't 100% right, was he? I'm aware he stuck "this could all change" as a safety net, just as he did when he claimed Goldeneye remastered was going to be announced some time in the last month and wasn't. It's no secret that Grubb has ears inside the industry but that doesn't make everything he says worth listening to when things do indeed change so frequently and rapidly.

Sure, I'll agree to that, but in general he has a better track record than others.

Also, with Goldeneye, the reason they haven't annoucned it officially yet (The Ukraine War) seems incredibly plausible, even Nintendo are delaying their games because of it.

 

[Mephisto40]

No desire to play streamed games at all, so that mid tier is useless to me, and i'm not paying twice my PS+ price just to be able to download some of the games on PSNow
I'll reserve too much judegement until the game list is avaiable, but this doesnt look that much different to them just combining PS+ and PSNow into the same subscription to me

 

[I'm nobody]

50 for ps now and 50 for ps plus as it stand today

This is a mega bonus for current psplus and now users
I'll be a premium user from June can't wait

 

[ethomaz]

I was going to ask how many does ps+ users get now, its 3 or 4 right?

2 for each platform.
3-4 combined… depend if the PS5 games is exclusive or together with PS4…. When exclusive you have 2 for PS4 and 2 for PS5… when shared you get 1 for each and 1 shared (3 in total).

 

[Swift_Star]

So it's like a refresh of the ps now games but you pay more?
How will they handle people with both plus and now?

Can you read? It’s stated in the OP.

 

[Bragr]

Some additional old games? 400 PS4 and PS5 games + 340 PSOne PS2 and PS3 games don't count?

Of course, it's an impressive amount of games, but against new triple-A games on day one, it's nowhere near enough. New games are always a lot more interesting and create more hype.

I love PS Plus and all the free games, but just this last fall I got Psychonauts 2, Forza Horizon 5, and Halo Infinite day one for no additional cost. That blew away anything I ever got from PS Plus.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Came to post the same thing about Live Service games

 

[aliadiere25]

So, if you already have PS Plus, you'll have to pay the extra for the premium service? So I'll have to pay another £50? I know they're migrating the PS Now service to PS Plus, so I'm assuming you'll have to pay the extra.

If that's the case, I'll just look around for a £50 PSN card for much cheaper.

Will you also be able to stream the PS5 games? Some of these PS5 games are over 100GB. Or is it just PS4 and below? There is a lot of questions not answered here.

 

[SilentUser]

hopefully you can just buy the ps1/ps2 games on their own

That's what I'm hoping for, plus a very nice emulator with it. Also curious to see what they'll have in store.

 

[MikeM]

I guess i’ll be downgrading my PS services to essential and keeping my GamePass sub. Unfortunate.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Realistically that's a very minor difference between what he leaked and what came out, things like that could very well have been modified between then and now.

But in general at least this is setting a precedent that he does have legitimate contacts in the industry.

He didn't leak anything. Everyone speculated something like this after the Bloomberg article

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I think you're projecting it a little too much. Xbox fanboys didn't say anything, all the gaming outlets like IGN, Gamespot, Venture Beats etc are the ones who kept calling it "Sony's Game Pass".

Oh, I'll disagree about that. Plenty of Xbox fanboys act like sony NEEDS to compete directly with gamepass. Gamepass is great but sony not doing something exactly like it isn't costing them market share.

 

[reksveks]

This is all about increasing the ARPU of PS+ users imo so ehh, happy to have got PS now.

 

[DryvBy]

Lol what? 400 is LESS than Game Pass has and that's not including the incoming Activision drop

Uh, what? My Xbox has maybe 200 games, most are meh indie stuff.


edit:

Dunno where you're looking, site shows 453.

Xbox Game Pass Games Library | Xbox

Explore the Game Pass library and play hundreds of games.

www.xbox.com

TIL there's more games on gamepass than I thought. It looks really small when I'm scrolling through it.

 

[SmurfMustard]

Xbox fanboys, you might add. Sony doesn’t need to compete directly with gamepass, neither does Nintendo.

So Sony fans expecting something more are now Xbox fans.

 

[Northeastmonk]

I have a good library of PS1-3 and PSP on my PS3 and Vita. Did I miss where I can download those to my new console because I don’t think I need this. I love that generation of consoles, so I purchased when I did.

I’m not that thrilled. I paid for most of the stuff either party wants to offer.

 

[Doctor Hades]

I hope that when you subscribe to PS+ Extra that your existing installed PS5 disc games will just work seamlessly like other digitally download games like on Xbox Series X. However, this is an area where Sony are a bit flaky as I have often had to uninstall an existing disc game to play the digital PS+ version, which is just annoying and really should not be necessary in my opinion. Sony really aren't the best when it comes to user-friendly features. I mean we still have to wait on a boring grey screen for PS5 games to finish copying/moving between drives, something that the Xbox One/Series consoles have been able to do in the background for years now!

 

[Bragr]

Only fanboys said this was a direct competitor to gamepass. I shouldn't need to remind you that PS is doing just fine without it.

For now. But this is about the future. People are not gonna buy new games if they don't have to.

 

[Sickteddy]

Please put The Getaway on this. I want to play it again!

 

[Portugeezer]

Am I the only one that noticed this?

• Two monthly downloadable games

PS4 gets 2.

 

[drhankmccoyphd]

I’m really hoping they will give us access to the ps1 classics we bought to dl on ps5 without a sub but I very much doubt that will happen. That said I’ll probably try it out for a month

 

[Swift_Star]

Because it will lead more and more people to Game Pass where they don't have to spend 70 bucks per game.

The problem here for Sony is that Xbox got a fantastic service right now where you don't have to purchase day one exclusives titles, and you get them across PC and consoles, with cross-save and cloud streaming. And all that is up and running.

Right now Sony got enough massive studios to produce tons of great games, but when the Bethesda machine starts up Xbox will easily match them, and when you combine that with Game Pass that will offer all of this within the service, it's gonna draw players over to Xbox, away from Sony.

This lackluster PS+ shit right here is gonna get smacked by Xbox over the next few years unless Sony takes this more seriously and understands what they are up against.

Example of CONCERNED citizen taking things out of his ass that has no support in reality.

 

[PisswasserYellow]

"via cloud streaming" lol. Let me guess, I still can't stream any of this shit while being in a party chat?

 

[SSfox]

Rofl

So they're gonna just become another Microsoft, Sony keep disappointing and being lame more and more. Bring back Shawn and Yosp FFS!!

 

[reksveks]

Uh, what? My Xbox has maybe 200 games, most are meh indie stuff.

aren't most services?