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All-new PlayStation Plus launches in June with three flexible membership options
- Thread starter HeisenbergFX4
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Exactly. People on here think companies just get to dictate their margins and market share.
That's not how it works.
If you're up against a determined competitor with like 10x the financial resources, you're gonna get squeezed, one way or another. Sony are in a precarious position right now and need to plan their next few moves really wisely if they're going to remain the market leader.
Hari Seldon
Member
Wow a way worse option than gamepass for the same price? Pass. And they didn't juice the lowest tier enough to make me want to sub, so I'm staying not subbed to anything Sony has.
Kilau
Member
Says extra tier is download.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Dunno where you're looking, site shows 453.
Xbox Game Pass Games Library | Xbox
Explore the Game Pass library and play hundreds of games.
www.xbox.com
Ogbert
Member
I guess I’m one of the clowns.
Genuine question, in good faith. What is the point of this service? A monthly subscription to play some old PS games? Other than that, there’s nothing new here…
Interfectum
Member
I actually agree with Jimbo here.
mejin
Member
PlayStation's Jim Ryan: Our games could suffer if they went straight into PS Plus
Whenever a new platform or service gets announced, the focus is inevitably on what's missing rather than what's there. …
www.gamesindustry.biz
Jimbo is not that stupid it seems.
I don't think it's a fundamental difference in tactic from both companies, both make their money off live services. my outstanding question is whether sony's live services games go into this platform for free. if so, what happens for pc users and non-subscribers?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Hahaha I take it you havent looked at the gamepass catalog since the day it dropped right?
I take it you are expecting the 400 to be all AA and AAA titles on PSPlusPlus.
As an FYI just take a look at the PSNow catalog and assume Sony is taking its PS4 games from that catalog plus the 5 theyve listed in the press release.
PlayStation®Plus | Hundreds of games to download and play, PlayStation classics, game trials and more
Join PlayStation Plus on an Essential, Extra or Premium membership plan and get hundreds of PS4 and PS5 games, online multiplayer, classics catalog, exclusive discounts and more.
www.playstation.com
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Swift_Star
Banned
How are they in a precarious position if their games are selling like hotcakes, the vast majority of third party is played and sold more on PlayStation and their console are always sold out?
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Nautilus
Banned
And there it is.
Honestly?It's weak.
Not terrible or anything. Anyone that had Plus and Now will seemingly save money, and this way they streamline acess to Now. I think their hope is that Now gets more attention. The only tier that is really offering something new is the most expensive one(Because of course). And even then it comes with huge caveats. PS3 games being cloud versions is the same as saying that the service doesn't have PS3 games.
And then you have PS1, PS2 and PSP games, which are interesting but still old games. And then the cherry on the top: Demos!Paying to play a fucking demo is too much.I know its a "trial", and they likely copied from Nintendo, in the sense that its the full game and you have a set limit of time to play to your heart's content, but its still a demo behind a paywall.
All in all, its a weak service that wont move the needle, if it will move at all. This is clearly aimed at the existing PS Plus clientelle, and won't be dealing any blows to Xbox and Nintendo.
Overall, I'm underwhelmed.
Honestly?It's weak.
Not terrible or anything. Anyone that had Plus and Now will seemingly save money, and this way they streamline acess to Now. I think their hope is that Now gets more attention. The only tier that is really offering something new is the most expensive one(Because of course). And even then it comes with huge caveats. PS3 games being cloud versions is the same as saying that the service doesn't have PS3 games.
And then you have PS1, PS2 and PSP games, which are interesting but still old games. And then the cherry on the top: Demos!Paying to play a fucking demo is too much.I know its a "trial", and they likely copied from Nintendo, in the sense that its the full game and you have a set limit of time to play to your heart's content, but its still a demo behind a paywall.
All in all, its a weak service that wont move the needle, if it will move at all. This is clearly aimed at the existing PS Plus clientelle, and won't be dealing any blows to Xbox and Nintendo.
Overall, I'm underwhelmed.
Complistic
Member
So their games won't be on it day 1 like game pass? Meh.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Lol @ the comments
This will probably work really well for them. They have 50+ million PS+ users. The obvious strategy here is to increase the revenue per user and the 400+ games is a good carrot to dangle to get a portion of them to upgrade
This will probably work really well for them. They have 50+ million PS+ users. The obvious strategy here is to increase the revenue per user and the 400+ games is a good carrot to dangle to get a portion of them to upgrade
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TheGodfather07
Member
Pretty much the most we expected apart from ps3 games still stuck with only streaming. Bit disappointed but sony could have done alot worse. Will ps3 games forever be stuck to streaming or can sony eventually work it out? Also can we separately buy and download the classic games?
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
It's almost like what the majority of people have been saying the whole time.
Elbow Identity Shallow
Member
See, this is exactly what I want from a subscription service. I have no interest in temporarily accessing new games as I just buy the ones that I want to play when I want to play them but I really don't mind a subscription service for games from previous generations. It's the same for Game Pass for me, if they'd offer a lower price version for 360 and the original Xbox then I'd be all over that but again the idea of a subscription service for brand new games just doesn't interest me.
Strangely, Nintendo's offering is actually closer to what I want from a subscription service although they are clearly lacking in other areas.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
It's still not the same.
Craig of War
Banned
PS3 is streaming only not totally sure about the others yet
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hard Pass ™
Portugeezer
Member
You can download PS2 locally (and PS1/PSP)
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Swift_Star
Banned
People Didn’t know ps now existed and it wasn’t available everywhere. This is a rebranding and a sign that they’re investing more on their subscription service.
The clowns showing concern here are just clowns.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
It's not though. As many have said since the beginning. Jesus Christ...
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Sanepar
Member
Including retro. If u include retro on plus is 740+ games
yeah, he got that wrong.
people still believing in the insert ps1/2/3 disc into the ps5 and play your game locally?
Mownoc
Member
That 453 includes Original Xbox and Xbox 360 titles, the 400 games is just PS4/PS5, as per the article title this service will offer over 700 games including older platforms like the 453 figure does.Dunno where you're looking, site shows 453.
Xbox Game Pass Games Library | Xbox
Explore the Game Pass library and play hundreds of games.www.xbox.com
Not that I think dick measuring over sheer quantity is that important, but if you're going to compare numbers at least get it right.
Leyasu
Banned
That is pretty good. But for how long?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I'm sorry but no one expected new games in there day one.
If you guys did...you played yourself.
Sony will never do that while their games seill millions of copies day one.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Not a bad deal for people who can’t afford to buy a ton of games. I wish I had this / gamepass as a kid. A bit underwhelming compared to the competition tho.
saintjules
Gold Member
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
he took the tweet down lol, probably gonna edit and reup.
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Up again and removed the PS2 streaming part
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TheGodfather07
Member
We all knew already but It won't stop fanboys from trolling. I do expect sony to put their games in the library like a year after release though and maybe in the future their live service games will launch on the service. Their is a longer term plan here.
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Swift_Star
Banned
People are just trolling at this point.
TrebleShot
Member
Very very cool announcement and these Plus tiers make a lot of sense considering Sonys dominant position in the market.
- Jim is spot on about the level of quality in games dropping if all first party games went day 1, considering the rising cost of game development you need to charge the relative value for a product it’s basic economics. Take a look at MS first party games On Gp and the quality delta compared to Sony 1st party paid is significant.
- I’d imagine first party games will come to PP but after some time , this is essentially the Disney plus model , you purchase your game when it releases but it comes to the service in 6 months/ 1 years time best of both worlds. Those who want can pay for the game and play it on release those who can’t afford to , get a trail and can wait until it comes to the service.
- The price point is highly competitive vs GamePass and 20 less than an yearly sub if I am not mistaken.
- considering Sony market share third party publishers who thought GP was a great way to expose games to a wider audience will have a much larger reach on PP and I’d imagine some nice deals are in the works.
- Lots of indies and 3rd party games will almost definitely launch day 1 on the service, publishers etc will be falling over themselves to get the games they have on GP on PP.
Excited for the future of this and the added competition!
- Jim is spot on about the level of quality in games dropping if all first party games went day 1, considering the rising cost of game development you need to charge the relative value for a product it’s basic economics. Take a look at MS first party games On Gp and the quality delta compared to Sony 1st party paid is significant.
- I’d imagine first party games will come to PP but after some time , this is essentially the Disney plus model , you purchase your game when it releases but it comes to the service in 6 months/ 1 years time best of both worlds. Those who want can pay for the game and play it on release those who can’t afford to , get a trail and can wait until it comes to the service.
- The price point is highly competitive vs GamePass and 20 less than an yearly sub if I am not mistaken.
- considering Sony market share third party publishers who thought GP was a great way to expose games to a wider audience will have a much larger reach on PP and I’d imagine some nice deals are in the works.
- Lots of indies and 3rd party games will almost definitely launch day 1 on the service, publishers etc will be falling over themselves to get the games they have on GP on PP.
Excited for the future of this and the added competition!
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
PS Now members. Where is the part about current PS Plus members?
Swift_Star
Banned
It doesn’t live up to the expectations of trolls and that’s it.
SSfox
Member
I don't think it's worse, both are lame at same level if you ask me.
This shit is too pathetic tbh, i'm really disappointed on Sony that are following Microsoft footsteps, instead of following their own strategies and ideas like they always did since the beginning of time, somebody need to fire those clowns heads and move Sony HQ to Japan.
CuteFaceJay
Member
So did gamepass just get dunked on or something?
shoplifter
Member
Double the price to play games I've already bought, in come cases multiple times over. Nope.