John Dunbar
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when was the last time your vote decided one of these issues or races?
Am I the only one that chooses not to vote?
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when was the last time your vote decided one of these issues or races?
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Pai Pai Master
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why the hell does MY PERSONAL vote need to decide the fate of AMERICA
voting is a collective thing, and if you think voting is pointless because you don't get to personally pick and choose every representative and law, then you're a selfish piece of butt. every vote counts.
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This is something that a lot of people like the OP fail to realize when they talk about corporations controlling everything. I think they have this vision of a consortium where all of the influential parties are on the same page or something.
It's totally not the case.
AstroNut325
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When was the last time you paid attention to the bills being reviewed/passed by your state legislature?
Fox Mulder
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Aren't the only one. I imagine there will be a generation of young people that feel the same after pushing Obama to the white house.
Um, every time? How else would it work?
Yes, just as everyone creating the threads are the only ones to think their statement.
votes aren't weighted. they all count.
Amory
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Yeah I just really don't care. Also I didn't remember to change my registered address when I moved so my polling place is all the way downtown and I have class after work tonight. So I'm not going to vote.
There's one issue I did want to vote on, though. In Massachusetts they want to start making all bottles redeemable, including water bottles. I just throw them all in the recycling bin so F that noise.
There's one issue I did want to vote on, though. In Massachusetts they want to start making all bottles redeemable, including water bottles. I just throw them all in the recycling bin so F that noise.
Chie Satonaka
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No, you're not the only one.
And as someone who actually loves politics, I struggle with what you say here constantly, because it's true. I'm not going to say both parties are the same, but yes, Corporations do own the US, and yes, both parties do have significant corporate interests.
Despite this, I still think one party is significantly worse than the other, and if I have to choose, I'm going to go with the better of the two. So yeah, I feel like voting is still worthwhile.
Who knows how I'll feel come 2016.
And as someone who actually loves politics, I struggle with what you say here constantly, because it's true. I'm not going to say both parties are the same, but yes, Corporations do own the US, and yes, both parties do have significant corporate interests.
Despite this, I still think one party is significantly worse than the other, and if I have to choose, I'm going to go with the better of the two. So yeah, I feel like voting is still worthwhile.
Who knows how I'll feel come 2016.
John Dunbar
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i don't think i should be the one to pick those things. i just accept that the result is going to be the same whether i vote or not.
You sound oblivious to reality if you think voting for any political candidate on the ballot would yield the same outcome on people's lives. There has to be some issue you feel passionate about that the given candidates are divided on. Take a few hours to read up on who is up for election and what they stand for and I'm sure you won't still be saying that voting doesn't make a difference.
Orbis Tabula
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To be fair, that requires a lot of thinking. Thinking is painful and humbling. Doesn't it feel so much better to just say "I'm smarter than everyone else!" and ignore it!?
Derekloffin
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What I want to know is why is it that a house with such a low approval rating is expecting to not only stay in power, but possibly gain more. WTF kind of country you guys running down there?! Sure I can sorta understand wanting to switch the senate, but why is the house not undergoing the same power shift under these circumstances.
speculawyer
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This is really stupid reasoning. Yeah, of course one single vote doesn't matter. But if everyone used that logic then no one would vote.
Votes matter . . . and especially the attitude to vote. If you pull your Linkin Park Emo schtick and decide not vote and get lots of your friends to go along with it, you've just reduced the vote for your demographic. Congrats . . . other voters will vote their interests and shaft you and your whiners. And then you'll just whine some more.
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Your tag is bullshit. I call for revoking it, unless it's meant as sarcasm.
breakfuss
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haha, you here in Florida? That and the gubernatorial picks are the only ones I knew anything about. I feel ...dumb.
Not that hard to get up to speed:
http://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page
Took me ~10 minutes to figure out how I'm going to vote on my state's 3 bill proposals this evening.
Every time. It's how we got decriminalized possession of marijuana.
Come on man, I believe that you are better than this.
Because there's never been close races before?
500 people think the same thing and don't vote and a result that could have went how they wanted it goes the other way.
I just don't want to get out of my house. Can't they make a website where they put whatever bullshit the politician swears he believes in and then I vote for whoever I want? Make it so I don't have to register or sign-in. Also, it would be good if they send a $5 Taco Bell coupon for voting.
John Oliver put it pretty perfectly.
most people who claim "all the politicians are controlled by corporate America" couldn't even name their local representatives.
Rockandrollclown
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If you don't want to vote, thats fine. At least have the decency to not act like you're doing something noble by not voting. Even if we are to concede that all politicians are the same you get to vote on issues of new laws, where your tax money goes, etc.
Delicious Waffles
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I don't vote because I have no interest in politics.
BertramCooper
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Do I really need to dig up instances where school levies have failed by only a couple of dozen votes? Or where an individual has won a city/village council seat by single digits?
No, tons of people think like you, and it's probably the biggest problem out there. If you honestly think nothing changes based on who's in power you're just not paying attention. Sure, everyone's influenced by money, but again, if you honestly think that controls everything, you're not paying attention. You don't like any of the options? Suck it up and pick the least bad one, because it can absolutely get worse.
I mean, have you even seen how much damage has been done in the past few years because everyone like you was too lazy to keep a bunch of crazy people from getting in power? Did you not notice the corporation you think run everything freaking the fuck out at some of the shit that got pulled in Washington and the damage it was doing to the economy?
I mean, have you even seen how much damage has been done in the past few years because everyone like you was too lazy to keep a bunch of crazy people from getting in power? Did you not notice the corporation you think run everything freaking the fuck out at some of the shit that got pulled in Washington and the damage it was doing to the economy?
Seriously. Almost every paper has one of these.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...ain-english/G9yuz9ltOp3EYsTe9ZxGYL/story.html
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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Every time.
So you have no interest in the quality of life for yourself and millions of others?
That trend is inexorable. My absence at the voting booth won't change that.
it's weird, in Austria, we always vote on a Sunday... what's the idea behind voting on Tuesday? :/
Pai Pai Master
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you know some of these things DO come down to the wire.
if just 500 lazy buttheads in my state who thought "my vote just doesn't count" left the house to vote, then certain things really could go different ways.
voting isn't just about broad things like picking a president or legalizing pot. the smaller ballots can be just as crucial on a personal level. it's also not instantaneous. this apathetic viewpoint has existed for years and has just served to increase the amount of bullshit in our governments, because so many bad candidates and laws go unopposed.
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That's saying that you have no interest in your surrounding area, your country, other people's welfare, and any policy issues that will also affect you.
You don't live in a vacuum. I bet you complain about public policy that you don't like. Guess what, you have an interest in politics.
Stop being stupid and saying stupid things like this.
those are two completely different issues.
you can choose not to vote because you don't want to. whatever, that's your right.
but that's different from saying your vote doesn't count. they all count. they all decide elections
andthebeatgoeson
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I voted 2 weeks ago. It's getting easier. We still have a ways to go for disenfranchised populations. Maybe Republicans will benefit from early voting and decide they can help with early voting and repeal their voting ID laws.
Zantetsuken
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They don't just misplace votes and make new voter laws for no reason. Politicians know how powerful a vote is.
Orbis Tabula
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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Ignorance is not bliss, summer child
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Deleted member 17706
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Pretty much. It really does just come down to latching onto a convenient and appealing narrative to rationalize the irrational and justify laziness.
It's a very human thing to do, unfortunately.
Affeinvasion
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If you don't like any of the candidates at any level, then run for office yourself.
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