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Amazon Kindle |OT| of eInk superiority
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Not anymore. Only fight club now.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
You have things mixed up here.
Publishers were always unhappy with Amazon's pricing rules. They constantly asked Amazon to let them set prices. Apple offered them the pricing rules they wanted. Publishers then turned to Amazon and used Apple's willingness to fold as leverage to renegotiate with Amazon.
This is correct, but I bet the collusion argument comes from the Apple terms that the publisher is not allowed to sell for less elsewhere. Which can be seen as anti-competitive.
The collusion probably does not arise from the agency model itself. I bet you Amazon and others would have no issue with the agency model if they could each work individual deals with the publishers. This way the publishers' hands are ties by their dealings with Apple. And no other seller can negotiate anything better.
Good to know
Re. the pricing thing, you can't even buy ebooks via iBooks in NZ, so the Apple model has never impacted us, but Amazon does rock.
My mother has a Kobo, and I'm planning to buy her and her husband a kindle each over the next few months, just to stop the pain. It's a real hassle for them, as many of the major booksellers don't accept her credit card, possible because it's a kiwi one. Not sure. I want them using Kindle ASAP.
Looks like Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential is $.25 today.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002UM5BXW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002UM5BXW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Been meaning to read this. Thanks!
a secret-boss
Banned
saw this on my
I'm waiting for some goo fantasy book to drop
backflip10019
Member
Awesome! Been wanting to read it anyway.
Just got my first Kindle in the mail. eink is better than I'd hoped.
So I got the one with ads. But they only show up full screen in sleep mode. Is there any reason to ever even put the thing in sleep mode though? Doesn't it not run down the battery just the same when it's left on a page or the home screen?
Edit: Oh, never mind. I see now that the thing automatically goes to sleep mode after a couple minutes. Good to know.
So I got the one with ads. But they only show up full screen in sleep mode. Is there any reason to ever even put the thing in sleep mode though? Doesn't it not run down the battery just the same when it's left on a page or the home screen?
Edit: Oh, never mind. I see now that the thing automatically goes to sleep mode after a couple minutes. Good to know.
backflip10019
Member
Yeah, I don't find the ads to be annoying since I have a case. Worth the extra money you can save.
Ecto311
Member
They are making .25 more than they would from a torrent. Sucks for them but it has to be more convenient for us to buy then steal sometimes. Also someone like me will pay because I am bearly interested - not even interested enough to steal this book but I'll lock it in my amazon account for a quarter.
TheSailerman
Neo Member
From what I understand, the authors and publishers don't lose out when Amazon, Google, and the like run deals like this. The retailers pay publishers a set price per "copy" of an ebook sold - so they still get their $5 or whatever was agreed upon - while Amazon or Google takes the hit on the difference.
A book called: We Die Alone: A WWII Epic of Escape and Endurance is available for $0.99.
If this story of espionage and survival were a novel, readers might dismiss the Shackleton-like exploits of its hero as too fantastic to be taken seriously. But respected historian David Howarth confirmed the details of Jan Baalsrud's riveting tale. It begins in the spring of 1943, with Norway occupied by the Nazis and the Allies desperate to open the northern sea lanes to Russia. Baalsrud and three compatriots plan to smuggle themselves into their homeland by boat, spend the summer recruiting and training resistance fighters, and launch a surprise attack on a German air base. But he's betrayed shortly after landfall, and a quick fight leaves Baalsrud alone and trapped on a freezing island above the Arctic Circle. He's poorly clothed (one foot is entirely bare), has a head start of only a few hundred yards on his Nazi pursuers, and leaves a trail of blood as he crosses the snow. How he avoids capture and ultimately escapes--revealing that much spoils nothing in this white-knuckle narrative--is astonishing stuff. Baalsrud's feats make the travails in Jon Krakauer's Mt. Everest classic Into Thin Air look like child's play. In an introduction, Stephen Ambrose calls We Die Alone a rare reading experience: "a book that I absolutely cannot put down until I've finished it and one that I can never forget." This amazing book will disappoint no one. --John J. Miller
If this story of espionage and survival were a novel, readers might dismiss the Shackleton-like exploits of its hero as too fantastic to be taken seriously. But respected historian David Howarth confirmed the details of Jan Baalsrud's riveting tale. It begins in the spring of 1943, with Norway occupied by the Nazis and the Allies desperate to open the northern sea lanes to Russia. Baalsrud and three compatriots plan to smuggle themselves into their homeland by boat, spend the summer recruiting and training resistance fighters, and launch a surprise attack on a German air base. But he's betrayed shortly after landfall, and a quick fight leaves Baalsrud alone and trapped on a freezing island above the Arctic Circle. He's poorly clothed (one foot is entirely bare), has a head start of only a few hundred yards on his Nazi pursuers, and leaves a trail of blood as he crosses the snow. How he avoids capture and ultimately escapes--revealing that much spoils nothing in this white-knuckle narrative--is astonishing stuff. Baalsrud's feats make the travails in Jon Krakauer's Mt. Everest classic Into Thin Air look like child's play. In an introduction, Stephen Ambrose calls We Die Alone a rare reading experience: "a book that I absolutely cannot put down until I've finished it and one that I can never forget." This amazing book will disappoint no one. --John J. Miller
I recommend it. Read it a few weeks ago, very good.
Clever Pun
Member
Cool, I've never read it but I picked it up yesterday when I saw this. I'm glad to hear it's a good read.
How so? Reading more?
Definitely reading a whole lot more. There's easy, obvious reasons, like trading out oft cumbersome books for a light device I can hold comfortably in either hand that makes me more excited to be reading just by nature of using it.
The real reason is more intangible and a lot harder to explain without sounding like a nutbag. I have a bit of ADD so while I love reading my mind likes to wander a lot while I'm doing it. I've got a ton of books on my shelf that I've read as much as 3/4 of the way through yet not finished for reasons I can't even explain and for some reason I haven't experienced that with the Kindle. I'm even reading through two books at the same time now on this thing (three if you count jumping around the collection of Poe stories I've been doing), and the thought of doing that is unimaginable for me a week ago.
It has kind of become the book equivalent of the revelation that was tabbed browsing was when I first discovered it so many years ago.
backflip10019
Member
You're still in the honeymoon period with it. I felt the same way when I first got mine, but I quickly reverted back to my douchey self.
At the absolute very least, because of the Kindle I have already read through the majority of a book that I wouldn't have ever considered previously (Tony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential) and that alone has been life changing.
If indeed it's just the honeymoon waiting to succumb to ADD-fueled laziness, I'll still have read more in the last week than I have in the years since the last Harry Potter book came out haha.
If indeed it's just the honeymoon waiting to succumb to ADD-fueled laziness, I'll still have read more in the last week than I have in the years since the last Harry Potter book came out haha.
Amazon dropped Moneyball down to a quarter today. I think this is the last day for Google's promotion so that's probably it for these deals.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005G5PPGS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005G5PPGS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Gummifaust
Member
Thoughts on Readiblity vs. Instapaper? I used Instapaper in the past but I really would like to have this single "send to kindle" feature (yes, I know about klip).
charlemagne
Member
I used instapaper, but I moved to readability once I got a kindle because it sends articles natively.
outunderthestars
Banned
If you like detective/noir stuff:
The Deputy
$1.99
To the Devil, My Regards: FREE!
Yellow Medicine: $3 or free if your have Prime
And if you're looking for something a bit different:
Fistful of Feet $4 or free with Prime
I just ordered my second Kindle. The first one's (3rd generation keyboard) screen got destroyed when I travelled home for christmas.
The thing I'm wondering if I chose right going with the standard Kindle with the 4-way button, or if I should have gone with the Kindle Touch. I know from the previous Kindle that I mainly read books on it anyways, so I'm not sure what purpose the touch-screen would have for me. At the same time I'm wondering if anyone who's used both types could weigh in on if having the Touch have changed their Kindle-using habits or not. Anyone?
The thing I'm wondering if I chose right going with the standard Kindle with the 4-way button, or if I should have gone with the Kindle Touch. I know from the previous Kindle that I mainly read books on it anyways, so I'm not sure what purpose the touch-screen would have for me. At the same time I'm wondering if anyone who's used both types could weigh in on if having the Touch have changed their Kindle-using habits or not. Anyone?
I've only had a Touch. I really enjoy being able to highlight passages as well as hold my finger down over a word if I want a quick definition.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Did they ever add X-ray to the keyboard kindles or is that still just the new ones?
Thanks.
I don't really highlight, and definition-lookup works fine with the 4-way button. I guess I'll keep my order as is.
Yeah its strange. The nook simple touch even can have custom screensavers without hacking. Why not kindle, Amazon? :/
Maybe it's just being a generally greasy dude but the thought of having my grimy, ball-infested fingers all over my Kindle is off-putting.
Also, doesn't the touch lack the page turn buttons on the sides? That would be a deal break in and of itself.
I'm like a hundred million percent positive it has to do with the ad supported feature of the Kindle, but it's still pretty inexcusable for them not to unlock the device completely after it's made a full model. Especially since they're otherwise so open with the damn thing, what with its source code freely available and shit. Makes no sense man.
what is hack the Gibson?
i think i want to also put some custom screensavers on my K3. Right now the stupid diaper add is getting on my nerves. I dont have kids damit.
It's a reference to the best movie of all time, Hackers.
Also, your Kindle wants you to be a good little consumer and BREED!
I've only had the 4-way button version of the Kindle but I can at least weigh in. The only time I wish I had touch or a keyboard is when I need to use the on screen keyboard, which happens very rarely. I only ever want to use it when 1) I want to get to a specific page, 2) when typing in new wireless router information, or 3) if I ever want to look for a book in the Kindle store on the Kindle. Highlighting a word for a definition or underlining a sentence is really easy to do and I guess adds only a few seconds over having touch. Also, I buy all my books through the computer anyway, so the kindle store doesn't become a problem.
If you've ever used a controller to browse through menus it's like that. It's not the best solution and can be "time consuming" (meaning a minute or so), but you end up using it so rarely I think it's worth the price trade off.
why is the Mp3player still in "experimental"?
The God of Nonexistence
Member
Same reason Gmail was in beta for half a decade.
Give them more money and get the ads disabled.
It would be nice to put custom images into the screensaver thingie on my ad-free Touch though.
I dont really want custom screensavers, but I do agree the ads are not targeted properly. I don't want to see "get prime" ads when I have prime already. I also dont want to see philadelphia hair and nails salon ads when I live in Nashville. Amazon does not have this down at all.
Just got my wife a new iPad, anyone interested in a 3 month old kindle fire with this snazzy case:
I throw in the case and a USB cable. $175 shipped in the US. I take PayPal, pm me.
takes 100 dollars off of it and i might reconsidered......
Yep. With a $150 ICS new tablet rumored for next month, I would pay $125 but not more for a Fire.