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AMC Releases Line-up of Series Regulars and New Photos for Better Call Saul
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ShironRedshift
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I dunno about that. I mean, following this train of logic, as someone else brought up, there was no reason for "Fraiser" to ever exist, as it was just a shown about a side character from "Cheers." I'm damn well glad it did though, as it was an excellent sitcom. Spinoffs aren't inherently terrible and in fact a show being a spinoff says absolutely nothing about whether it will be a quality show or not. That depends solely on the quality of the writing and the show itself.
Personally, I'm pretty interested in this show, especially since it definitely doesn't seem to be just retreading the same ground as Breaking Bad and is going in its own direction with these characters in a way that makes me curious about it and I'm definitely at least going to give it a fair shake before concluding anything about it, which seems to be the last it deserves. Don't see any reason to inherently write it off just because its a spinoff. That's just being silly and makes no sense at all.
dead souls
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I really want the show to be great, but I think you may be right.
BUNTING1243
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I'm actually super curious which two and a half seasons you're talking about
CharminUltra
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Honestly, I wasn't so sure about this at first, but now that the show is going full steam ahead I'm definitely excited. There's still a chance the show just will just suck of course, but it might also end up being decent. I'm willing to give it a try it for a few episodes.
megamerican
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I am pleasantly surprised Gilligan seems so heavily involved. I was half expecting him to slap his name on it, while moving on to other projects.
I have no doubt it will good. I just hope AMC has managed expectations for how it performs.
I have no doubt it will good. I just hope AMC has managed expectations for how it performs.
radios shipping overview
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Aw yiss, Mike is in! And I love Michael McKean. His style fits this kind of humor very well. I will be watching.
The Illiterati
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Cheers and Frasier were comedies. Anything could have been spun off out of them. Breaking Bad is a show that told a finite story with an ending. If this is a comedy, does it fit with the world of BB? If this is a drama, is there any tension, since we know what happens? Saul was a character that had zero depth, but a premade catch phrase for a show title.
sixteen-bit
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Breaking Bad can't take place in 2006. One of the characters directly references the operation that killed Bin Laden.
That was intentional. We only ever encounter Saul in the show when he's at work, doing Walter's bidding. We have no idea about his personal life, what makes him tick, or what kind of person he is when he's not doing his job. There is plenty of potential for great storytelling and giving depth to him here. It was not necessary for that to happen in Breaking Bad.
MightyHedgehog
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Looks like Jimmy McGill aka Saul Goodman starts off being less of an ambulance chaser than I thought.
They recently confirmed that it starts off in about 2002.
They recently confirmed that it starts off in about 2002.
sixteen-bit
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Lots of anachronisms then. Like the model year of the Challenger that Walt buys (2009).
Funky Papa
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Oh man, why nobody told me about Orphan Black's Vic?
Now I'm 100% in. The show will most probably be an inferior product, but some belly laughs are pretty much assured.
Now I'm 100% in. The show will most probably be an inferior product, but some belly laughs are pretty much assured.
MightyHedgehog
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Oops, my bad. Thought you were talking BCS because of the thread and totally didn't read that you were talking of BB. BCS starts off at about 2002, so a four to five year span for the show to run its course if they wanted to make each season represent a year in plot time.
I'm pretty confident it won't be comparable because they're two completely different shows.
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feels like it will gain a lot of viewers for the first season, then drop them. maybe.
it better not be 'bad guy of the week' type stuff.
They would be insane to do that, even if there is a tiny bit of wiggle room to do so.
Five stellar seasons of Bad and an ending that held the landing has given me faith he knows what he's doing. I'm not crazy about the need and premise of the show as for me the driving force of Bad, despite the immense amount of other things to like about it, was Walt / Cranston. Such an amazing descent into madness and his 'normal' persona every bit as interesting as Heisenberg.
Saul - was a vaguely interesting comic relief but I'm rarely fond of prequels. Odenkirks a great guy and actor though so I'm in for Season 1 definitely
Freedom = $1.05
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more importantly, breaking bad can't take place in 2006 because that would mean that Jessie is playing Rage, on kinect, in 2007. also, skinny pete and badger have that zombie conversation about COD WAW and Left 4 dead, both late 2008 games.
the idea stinks (most prequels do, really) but my vidja games knowledge won't let this bullshit stand
the idea stinks (most prequels do, really) but my vidja games knowledge won't let this bullshit stand
Sickboy007
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BB works as a period piece, but for the Great Recession.
Lord of Castamere
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He played it with a gun though so in this alternate no controller lightgun on rails RAGE reality it released in 2007, clearly.
Vince has said that they never had a timeline for the show it was supposed to represent all times as he wanted it to be timeless. He said that the modern references weren't really thought out. RAGE was just a stupid product placement, and the lightgun heavy symbolism. Honestly besides a few slipups it's done relativity well.
Messerschmidt
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Someone better throw a fucking pizza.
BFIB
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Odds are he's helping to get this up and running. My guess is he steps away as show runner in a few years to work on another project.
Messerschmidt
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I love Mike as a character and I'm really excited to see him back, but I don't get why everyone seems to love him just as much, if not more, than Walter White.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I remember Mike always being so unnecessarily cunty to Walter White. He's lucky he didn't get shot sooner if that's how he talked to all the drug dealers. I remember Walter trying to be professional and fair with him before he went full complete Heisenberg... and then Mike seemed to have a problem with Walter being a cunt?
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I remember Mike always being so unnecessarily cunty to Walter White. He's lucky he didn't get shot sooner if that's how he talked to all the drug dealers. I remember Walter trying to be professional and fair with him before he went full complete Heisenberg... and then Mike seemed to have a problem with Walter being a cunt?
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Mike being a grumpy old man is part of his charm. As far as why he was always "cunty" to Walter White, most of that was that White didn't know what the hell he was doing for the majority of the time in his dealings with Mike, so Mike was skeptical his ideas would work. Also, Mike was loyal to those he worked with, and he was Gus' right hand man. When Gus was taken out, Mike lost his employer and his paychecks.
Summary, Walter White was the real cunt the whole series. It's a credit to the writing team and to Bryan Cranston that they made him as likeable as he was.
Bob Odenkirk is the guy all the other famous comedy guys consult when they're doing a show or movie or even a stand-up routine. He's a fixer with a lot of experience and he gets a ton of respect. If you haven't seen any Mr. Show then do yourself a favour.
Lots of people really like what Bob did playing Saul but I understand you don't so much. What I'm saying is give Bob the benefit of the doubt because since he is now the lead he will have spent a lot of time working on this to turn it into something great. He's got that outlook and mentality and now he's got this great opportunity to become the next Bryon Cranston. He just may pull it off.
RatskyWatsky
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How do you know he's wasting his time?
He doesn't. People just like to fucking moan and bitch about anything.
Let's at least see how the first few episodes pan out before crying how this isn't needed or how Saul isn't a deep character. The potential to develop Saul's character is pretty great considering the amount of shady shit he's got himself in to.
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