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[bitbydeath]

You can't correct somone who is already correct, lol.

For your statement to be correct one of the two must apply:

• Sony lied about Ray-Tracing
• AMD lied about Ray-Tracing only working on RDNA2.

Your entire argument relies on one of the two lying.

And this is before we even go into the mention of RDNA2 coming to consoleS.

 

[Snake29]

It all feels like 2013 again with all that stupidity from the Xfans.

 

[Sosokrates]

I think what is confusing (and triggering) is that you are arguing the case because they don't specifically say PS5 but they also don't specifically say XSX either....

I just don't see the point in fighting over it like this over the word 'confirmed'. It isn't confirmed the Sun will rise in the morning but I think it will!

Yes I would say what amd has said today has not confirmed RDNA2 on xsx either, but Phil Spencer has confirmed RDNA2 for XSX, which is an official and direct confirmation, until we get something equally specific from Sony or there partners I would not consider it to be confirmed.
I think it's important to be accurate with language.

 

[Sosokrates]

For your statement to be correct one of the two must apply:

• Sony lied about Ray-Tracing
• AMD lied about Ray-Tracing only working on RDNA2.

Your entire argument relies on one of the two lying.

And this is before we even go into the mention of RDNA2 coming to consoleS.

No I just aknowledge that what amd said does not make it an absolute, hence the words "highly likely"

I'm just calling a spade a spade.

 

[Shambala]

Yes I would say what amd has said today has not confirmed RDNA2 on xsx either, but Phil Spencer has confirmed RDNA2 for XSX, which is an official and direct confirmation, until we get something equally specific from Sony or there partners I would not consider it to be confirmed.
I think it's important to be accurate with language.

Just give it up already. Are you a lawyer? Damn trying to be super technical for no damn reason

 

[mitchman]

You’re*

Please learn the correct grammar.

“It’s has not be confirm” Sorry what? Take your own advice and learn English.

Excuse me? I lot of people here are not native English speakers, and even native English speakers make this mistake. Do you have an actual point or are you just trying to be an asshat?

 

[bitbydeath]

No I just aknowledge that what amd said does not make it an absolute, hence the words "highly likely"

I'm just calling a spade a spade.

No. Do you have a website you listen to?
AMD confirmed it and everyone will be running with it soon.

But, it does kind of make sense for AMD to launch RDNA 2 around November or December 2020, as that's when we're expecting the RDNA 2-powered Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 to launch.

AMD Big Navi isn't coming until the end of 2020

Although AMD RDNA 2 promises 4K gaming with ray tracing

www.techradar.com

 

[Sosokrates]

Just give it up already. Are you a lawyer? Damn trying to be super technical for no damn reason

I wasn't, it was bitbydeath who brought it up, lol.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

TnA coming up

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Let's just hope Sony end their silence so we can move on......

 

[siekro1983]

It all feels like 2013 again with all that stupidity from the Xfans.

Thats kind of unfair i only see one xbox fan here, and boy is he shitting up the thread.

 

[Sosokrates]

No. Do you have a website you listen to?
AMD confirmed it and everyone will be running with it soon.

AMD Big Navi isn't coming until the end of 2020

Although AMD RDNA 2 promises 4K gaming with ray tracing

www.techradar.com

Yeah I don't doubt websites will run with it. But to say it was a "confirmation" is just not true, but it's apparent you're not going to agree with me on this, so it seems pointless to continue this conversation.

 

[chilichote]

Finally^^

 

[Sosokrates]

Thats kind of unfair i only see one xbox fan here, and boy is he shitting up the thread.

And you and your fellow comrades are completely innocent

The funny thing is I'm actually a bigger playstation fan then an Xbox one, I just don't think it's a confirmation of RDNA2 because it isn't, I'm 95% certain it will be though.

 

[siekro1983]

And you and your fellow comrades are completely innocent

The funny thing is I'm actually a bigger playstation fan then an Xbox one, I just don't think it's a confirmation of RDNA2 because it isn't, I'm 95% certain it will be though.

AMD the people that developed RDNA2 clearly state PS5 will have RDNA2 multiple times. For you that's not confirmation for some reason. i Wonder why.

 

[BeardGawd]

In the Q&A they clarified that the 7nm change for RDNA2 is just a nomenclature change and that it is still associated with 7nm+.

 

[Sosokrates]

AMD the people that developed RDNA2 clearly state PS5 will have RDNA2 multiple times. For you that's not confirmation for some reason. i Wonder why.

Whatever, xbot.

 

[TLZ]

It ended? I thought it was going for 5 hours.

 

[Md Ray]

Let's just hope Sony end their silence so we can move on......

God, I can't wait.

 

[TLZ]

Where's Phil?

 

[Mod of War: Remastered]

Let’s move on from the petty back and forth with personal attacks.

Thank you.

 

[wolffy71]

Public service announcement... one system missing a component(or not) will not improve the game play on your chosen system.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Well, that wraps up the stream. I was out for most of it.

PDF Links:

Dr. Lisa Su: Building the Best

Mark Papermaster: Future of High Performance

David Wang: Driving GPU Leadership

Rick Bergman: Driving Growth Across PCs and Gaming

Forrest Norrod: Data Center Leadership

Devinder Kumar: Sustainable Growth

In the Q&A they clarified that the 7nm change for RDNA2 is just a nomenclature change and that it is still associated with 7nm+.

I was guessing that might be the case. 7nm in the slide was probably just an umbrella term.

 

[ethomaz]

In the Q&A they clarified that the 7nm change for RDNA2 is just a nomenclature change and that it is still associated with 7nm+.

How that works?
Because they clearly says 7nm+ to RDNA 3.

 

[BeardGawd]

How that works?
Because they clearly says 7nm+ to RDNA 3.

Which slide are you referring to? This one says "Advanced Node":

 

[Mod of War: Remastered]

Which slide are you referring to? This one says "Advanced Node":

It seems they are leaving their options open beyond current 7nm depending on how quickly 5nm is coming along to maybe skip EUV.

 

[Md Ray]

Lets see if this is bullshit or not:

Called it lol.

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

I really don't give a fuck about this but I also wanted to do this so hard.

 

[digital_ghost]

Thats kind of unfair i only see one xbox fan here, and boy is he shitting up the thread.

Someone's gotta deliver the shit man.

 

[PhoenixTank]

It seems they are leaving their options open beyond current 7nm depending on how quickly 5nm is coming along to maybe skip EUV.

Indeed. TSMC have a bunch of nodes to choose from in the near future, from N7P, N7+, N6 or N5.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

So, can someone just tell me if the PlayStation 5 is gonna win this gen or not.

I'm seriously losing my patience with this gay ass teraflops war.

 

[Fake]

Sry, I get late. What I missed?

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

Sry, I get late. What I missed?

My meme is the most accurate summary I think.

 

[bitbydeath]

Sry, I get late. What I missed?

I tried to capture most of the main points in the OT.

 

[Fake]

I tried to capture most of the main points in the OT.

Thx.

 

[Jonsoncao]

Lol @ all these angry personal attacks in this thread.

 

[thelastword]

Does MS only reveal figures to Ahmad? Ms releases no figures but he knows.....

 

[ethomaz]

Sry, I get late. What I missed?

You missed the obvious

 

[ethomaz]

Does MS only reveal figures to Ahmad? Ms releases no figures but he knows.....

He thinks he pretend he knows how much Xbox sold... I already discussed in old forum where I showed to him his guesses were impossible.

 

[Fake]

You missed the obvious

I know. Shit, I wish be here as soony as I could.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Was there anything on APUs?

 

[CrustyBritches]

Lol @ all these angry personal attacks in this thread.

 

[mitchman]

So, can someone just tell me if the PlayStation 5 is gonna win this gen or not.

They will absolutely sell more this generation unless Sony does a mayor screw-up. It's kindof given considering how strong the brand is.

 

[CrustyBritches]

In the Q&A they clarified that the 7nm change for RDNA2 is just a nomenclature change and that it is still associated with 7nm+.

I checked and you were correct. Nice catch.

 

[DeepEnigma]

He thinks he pretend he knows how much Xbox sold... I already discussed in old forum where I showed to him his guesses were impossible.

Even for the sake of argument that AMD used 150+ million for 159milli total so far, the PS4 is over 110 by now since the 109 announcement. That would be less than 50millie any way you cut it.

I trust investment calls over twitter attention seekers.

150+ millie probably means between 151-154 at best.

 

[B_Boss]

No they didn't. Show me where they said ps5 is using RDNA2.

He said "the next generation consoles will use our latest zen technology and use our latest RDNA technology as well"

In a court of law this would not necessary be proof that the PS5 is using RDNA2, I thinking it's highly likely that he does mean that the PS5 is using RDNA2, but that is different to a confirmation.

Arguments and evidence (deductive reasoning and logical inference also) based on what has been officially stated and shown would be case winners.

 

[thelastword]

BOOM

The new GPUs would also feature additional features which would deliver better gaming experience while being based on the latest 7nm process node.

BOOM

According to the roadmap shared by AMD, the RDNA2 GPUs would feature three key features that will be part of the new GPU architecture. First and foremost is the performance per watt increase which is due to a number of reasons. AMD will be shifting from TSMC's 7nm process to the more advanced 7nm process node. The new process node itself increases transistor efficiency on the new GPUs while decreasing its overall size, allowing AMD to cram more performance in a much smaller package.

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-navi-2x-rdna2-gpus-2x-performance-ray-tracing-2020-launch/

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

He thinks he pretend he knows how much Xbox sold... I already discussed in old forum where I showed to him his guesses were impossible.

Daniel Ahmed is a cocksucking liar.

 

[CyberPanda]

Daniel Ahmed is a cocksucking liar.

What did he say lol