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American Gods |OT| You Had Me At Bryan Fuller - Sundays on Starz

It was a metaphysical partially hallucinated dick.

I think it was just to illustrate Shadow being pissed and not being able to get that visual out of his head. The picture wasn't really on the dresser.

It was a take on that "You see 'thing' anywhere after it happens". It wasn't actually on it lol.

Lol, I thought it was a digital photo frame that updated when he clicked on the dick pic.
 

Golnei

Member
Lol, I thought it was a digital photo frame that updated when he clicked on the dick pic.

Now I'm imagining every picture frame in the house suddenly haunted by rogue genitalia, like the eyes in PT.

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Great opening theme(I swear there's just the slightest/rightest nod to The Immigrant Song in there at the end~), great second episode, great show period---this is definitely THE thing to look forward to catching on the DVR each early Monday morning for the next few weeks.
 

zeemumu

Member
Now I'm imagining every picture frame in the house suddenly haunted by rogue genitalia, like the eyes in PT.

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Honestly I was expecting his hallucination of her to turn around and an endless stream of severed dicks just start pouring out
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I expected Shadow to literally find the dick. I feel like that gun has to go off eventually.
 

CloudWolf

Member
Yeah, I don't know what to think about Anansi straight up knowing the future of black people in America. That opens up a whole lot of plotholes depending how the rest of the show goes.

I absolutely adored Czernobog though, even if the checkers scene was a bit too drawn out. Gillian Anderson was also perfect as Media.

And maybe I'm remembering wrong, but in the book...
wasn't the Laura reveal before Chicago? I kept waiting for Laura to reveal herself and tell Shadow she killed those men.
 

Lee

Member
And maybe I'm remembering wrong, but in the book...
wasn't the Laura reveal before Chicago? I kept waiting for Laura to reveal herself and tell Shadow she killed those men.

It was. I think the show is very intentionally keeping book readers in suspense,
and it's working (for me at least). I also thought for sure that Bilquis was going to be attacked/killed this episode when we went back to her, either at home or in the museum.
I feel like they are intentionally using our book knowledge to add suspense, but maybe that's giving too much credit.
 
It was. I think the show is very intentionally keeping book readers in suspense,
and it's working (for me at least). I also thought for sure that Bilquis was going to be attacked/killed this episode when we went back to her, either at home or in the museum.
I feel like they are intentionally using our book knowledge to add suspense, but maybe that's giving too much credit.
They kind of are, they are already changing things for the better imo. Like they changed technical boys look from a fat pimple nerd to this joffrey looking vaping designer sneaker wearing white kid motherfucker and that's brilliant if you consider what modern Internet/social network kids are now. The get rich with apps bros. Also anansi isn't the one in the boat with the slaves if I recall correctly.
 
It's a bit worrying that most of the impressions about the second episode here is from book readers. I fear that the show lost a big chunk of potential viewers with the "confusing" first episode..

I mean I loved the episode, I love the show, it's my favorite thing on TV right now, but maybe it needed a slower, more accessible pilot. I really hope it won't get canceled.
 
It's a bit worrying that most of the impressions about the second episode here is from book readers. I fear that the show lost a big chunk of potential viewers with the "confusing" first episode..

I mean I loved the episode, I love the show, it's my favorite thing on TV right now, but maybe it needed a slower, more accessible pilot. I really hope it won't get canceled.
If people weren't hooked after the ending scene of episode 1 there is something wrong with them. I haven't read the book in a while, and while confusing there was an intriguing mystery to it. I completely forgot about the vagina vacuum
 

Lee

Member
Wait a few episodes.

I think a big scene will play out better for those who didn't read the book.

The Carousel

Won't be getting the House on the Rock this season, apparently. So we'll be waiting for a while.

"We had our finale that required shooting in Wisconsin and getting to the House on the Rock, and that was a big chunk of change we needed to apply to go back and reshoot some things we weren't happy with, to facilitate a better version of the show."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/american-gods-season-1-primer-998205
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Kinda meh on the episode other than the opening and the Lucile Ball bit.
Felt like half the episode was filler
 
Thinking of starting this after finishing s2 of sense 8. Reviews are good and people said it's based off a book that was good quality. How is it so far? I do feel weird asking gaf since reception on tv shows is always much more negative than majority. :\
 
Yeah, I don't know what to think about Anansi straight up knowing the future of black people in America. That opens up a whole lot of plotholes depending how the rest of the show goes.

If you are one of those pothole worry warts, looking for rock solid logic, you may want to jump off this ride. This is a story about old gods migrating to the New World and an eventual war with the new American gods. This story is surreal as fuck.

Bryan Fuller is doing an amazing job of taking that surreal story and creating art. You are taking an amazing introduction to Anansi and worrying about potholes? This is one of the most beautifully dark episodes of TV I've ever seen.

Soak it in, man. Don't overthink it.
 
Thinking of starting this after finishing s2 of sense 8. Reviews are good and people said it's based off a book that was good quality. How is it so far? I do feel weird asking gaf since reception on tv shows is always much more negative than majority. :\

It's good, very good.

It's also the style of show to just enjoy the characters, the witty dialogue, the beautiful vistas, the direction, the photography, the sense of mystery and otherness. Second episode has already slowed down things a fair bit, so I think this series is to be savored for this qualities, not to be consumed.
So don't expect the plot advancing at great pace.
 
If you are one of those pothole worry warts, looking for rock solid logic, you may want to jump off this ride. This is a story about old gods migrating to the New World and an eventual war with the new American gods. This story is surreal as fuck.

Bryan Fuller is doing an amazing job of taking that surreal story and creating art. You are taking an amazing introduction to Anansi and worrying about potholes? This is one of the most beautifully dark episodes of TV I've ever seen.

Soak it in, man. Don't overthink it.
Eh future knowledge wasn't part of the original novel as far as I'm aware, but the whole scene was a new addition by Fuller written during Trumps election and big black lives matter movements. While I agree it's an amazing scene, it's fair criticism that it opens up some possible plot holes and hand waving it away with "it's a magical show about Gods fighting" isn't a real defense.
 
man though some of this photography or cinematography whatever it is. certainly getting to over indulgence level of artistic endeavor.

Leanr to love it, or you might want to find something else to watch. The only reason I was okay with Hannibal ending was that I knew Bryan Fuller was going to work his magic here. I think it is a flipping perfect way to tell this story.

I say that even as the last season of Hannibal might have gone off the deep end of artistic indulgence. But this is story is supposed to be a mindfuck.
 

Meier

Member
The Anansi scene was one of the best things I've ever seen on TV. Absolutely incredible. Really enjoyed the second episode -- shout out to Cloris Leachman who I don't believe anyone has mentioned specifically yet. She was fantastic. I enjoyed the way the list of items Shadow bought played out as far as them being targeted gifts.

As far as the dick is concerned, Dane Cook apparently plays Robbie so I'm sure he's thrilled about that dick being associated with him.
 

molnizzle

Member
If I hadn't read GAF threads about this show/book then I'd have no idea what was going on.

I still kinda don't.

Show better explain some shit in the next few episodes.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I care less about plot holes than that it muddles the waters of what the gods are (reflections of the collective will of their worshipers).
Gods are known to yield glimpses of the future, maybe this is not Anansi's particular purview but that's a minor nitpick. But they're not known to be anachronistically removed in terms of appearance and language, although you could make a case for it as gods being entirely alien to mortals (which is in line with what pagan gods tend to be), it misleads the viewers into thinking gods are static entities rather than malleable ideas that shift with society, something that's very important given the parallels with immigration. The major theme in the story is that gods are immigrant concepts just as their worshipers are immigrant peoples, and the opening, as topical and important as it was, interferes with that.

And also, it overlaps thematically with a significant side story in the book, the
Haitian Revolution
, which was a segment I liked very much. I wonder if they're going to do that or leave it out now that Anansi is the figurehead of African slave rebellion.
 

Veelk

Banned
Eh future knowledge wasn't part of the original novel as far as I'm aware, but the whole scene was a new addition by Fuller written during Trumps election and big black lives matter movements. While I agree it's an amazing scene, it's fair criticism that it opens up some possible plot holes and hand waving it away with "it's a magical show about Gods fighting" isn't a real defense.

It's less that "it's a magic show about God's fighting" so much as it is, for me anyway, the inherent incoherence of all mythology. That's just something that's not escapable in any way because of how myths, especially those told in the oral tradition, worked. There is no such thing as a mythological canon.

At the end of the novel,
Shadow met with Odin again in Iceland iirc, but it wasn't the Mr. Wednesday as he knew him. That Odin died in the novel, but this other Odin was there, sitting and having a drink, not having ever had any adventures with Shadow at all.

If that can happen, split entities from one singular idea of a God, then a god who can see into the future (more than that, maybe even jump between timelines, since he wore clothes from an alternate time period), is not so impossible. He's simply an Anansi who could do that. Not all Anansi's can, presumably.
 

TheOddOne

Member
The Anansi scene was one of the best things I've ever seen on TV. Absolutely incredible. Really enjoyed the second episode -- shout out to Cloris Leachman who I don't believe anyone has mentioned specifically yet. She was fantastic. I enjoyed the way the list of items Shadow bought played out as far as them being targeted gifts.

As far as the dick is concerned, Dane Cook apparently plays Robbie so I'm sure he's thrilled about that dick being associated with him.
I love Maw Maw.
 

Meier

Member
If I hadn't read GAF threads about this show/book then I'd have no idea what was going on.

I still kinda don't.

Show better explain some shit in the next few episodes.

Or you could just stick with it! My understanding though is that they go more into detail in the 4th episode. I'm largely in the dark beyond the high level understanding of old gods eventually fighting the new gods but I find it very compelling.

I love Maw Maw.

Yeah, Raising Hope was a joy to watch. She was so much fun on it.
 

hydruxo

Member
If I hadn't read GAF threads about this show/book then I'd have no idea what was going on.

I still kinda don't.

Show better explain some shit in the next few episodes.

The book is the same way in that Shadow (and the reader) don't really have much of an idea where this is all leading until it starts unraveling. Best to just enjoy the ride and all the weird shit that happens.
 

Jag

Member
Really enjoyed the second episode -- shout out to Cloris Leachman who I don't believe anyone has mentioned specifically yet. She was fantastic. I enjoyed the way the list of items Shadow bought played out as far as them being targeted gifts.

Holy crap I didn't realize it was her.
 

Meier

Member
Also, for those somewhat surprised at the amount of dick in the show thus far.. Outlander is another Starz show which I really enjoy and it is not afraid to show dick, that's for sure. There is a ton of really over the top sex scenes in the first half of the 1st season and then it kind of tailed off but there's also some pretty brutal male on male rape featured. They pull no punches on this channel.
 

Kinyou

Member
I expected Shadow to literally find the dick. I feel like that gun has to go off eventually.
What if he like, sees her again in a dream, but this time they kiss, and in the middle of the kiss his eyes open wide, and he pulls back and you see a dick sticking out of her mouth.

I mean, just throwing that idea out there...

....does anyone have Bryan Fullers number?
The Anansi scene was one of the best things I've ever seen on TV. Absolutely incredible. Really enjoyed the second episode -- shout out to Cloris Leachman who I don't believe anyone has mentioned specifically yet. She was fantastic. I enjoyed the way the list of items Shadow bought played out as far as them being targeted gifts.
It was funny to see her character having the same drinking habits as the one she played on Malcolm in the Middle.
 

molnizzle

Member
Also, for those somewhat surprised at the amount of dick in the show thus far.. Outlander is another Starz show which I really enjoy and it is not afraid to show dick, that's for sure. There is a ton of really over the top sex scenes in the first half of the 1st season and then it kind of tailed off but there's also some pretty brutal male on male rape featured. They pull no punches on this channel.

There's lots of dick on premium cable these days, but American Gods is the first time I've seen erect dick. And lots of it.

It's a brave new world.
 

zeemumu

Member
There's lots of dick on premium cable these days, but American Gods is the first time I've seen erect dick. And lots of it.

It's a brave new world.

That show that 50 Cent was in had him jerking off at one point. That's when I realized that the game had changed
 
To me it seems that all segments of the Gods coming to America are like tales, told from generation to generation, and at each passage they exagerate/change it a bit.

That the nature of the tales, folklore and Gods, after all.

So that us why in the Vikings segment there were a thousand arrows, fights with ams flying off and still killing enemies, all the broad violance.

So the retelling of Anansi arrival may not be true to the facts, may be like a modern afroamerican would explain a Black God in a slave ship. But as the nature of tales and Gos also says, it became the truth.
 

Kinyou

Member
There's lots of dick on premium cable these days, but American Gods is the first time I've seen erect dick. And lots of it.

It's a brave new world.
I was very surprised by that.
I remember reading something that a fully erect dick gets very close to pornography territory, same with a spread vagina, so it's usually a no go. Maybe times have changed.
 
Eh future knowledge wasn't part of the original novel as far as I'm aware, but the whole scene was a new addition by Fuller written during Trumps election and big black lives matter movements. While I agree it's an amazing scene, it's fair criticism that it opens up some possible plot holes and hand waving it away with "it's a magical show about Gods fighting" isn't a real defense.


Like I said, if you are a pothole worry wart that can't handle "hand waving," seriously, this show is not for you. It's a surreal tale. The events on that ship don't even have to be true. They might be a story Anansi told. He lies a lot.

The scene established his character, a God, willing to take advantage of anyone in order to be worshipped. Moreover, it established America as an inherently evil new world, which jives with the rise of the American Gods. Northing has to be logic based, canon, or even consistent. Reality is flexible as hell in this world. That goes for both American Gods and Anansi Boys.

Surrealism might just not be your bag. That's cool.
 
I'm liking the show I was defending this criticism because the thought crossed my mind, but why are you immediately kicking people out and telling them it's not for them lmao the show hasn't even been 3 episodes out. You're not hand waving you seem to be almost kicking people out. Let's wait a bit further and folks can make that call themselves, I wasn't terribly confused reading the novel but it needs some time to settle. Even Odin says he hasn't told Shadow because he's easing him in
 

Moff

Member
was spacepenisman the guy bilquis swallowed in the first episode? didn't look like the same actor to me
 
In hindsight, the residual surprise on Bilquis is that she has yet to take in anybody head first, especially considering she seems to be into everybody.
 

Jag

Member
That may be my favorite opening to a show since GoT. Just so intense. Totally conveys the tension and menace that oozes out of the show.

Edit: Anyone have any good Podcasts for the show? Seems like it would be perfect for this type of show.
 
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