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American ISPs reportedly rolling out 'six strikes' today (2/25/13)

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GK86

Homeland Security Fail
Update. The 'Six Strikes' policy starts today:

AT&T, Verizon, Time Warner Cable, Comcast, and Cablevision are the participating ISPs. If your ISP isn't there, then you don't have to worry about it.

Link to official press release.

Via Verge:

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There are rumors of "deep packet inspection," probably set off by a tweet from file-sharing overlord Kim Dotcom, but in fact the ISPs aren't watching their customers' traffic. The reality isn't quite as Big Brotherish nor as high-tech. The system starts with copyright owners monitoring peer-to-peer networks such as BitTorrent or Mega, looking for their own content. In the porn industry, which is typically at the cutting edge when it comes to this stuff, monitoring is done by third parties that use a combination of manual and algorithmic searches to find copyrighted content on file-sharing sites and piracy forums.

Once they spot an illicit copy of Skyfall or "Thriller," a content owner can identify the internet address and ISP of the person hosting the file and report the address to the ISP. The ISP then looks up which customer it is and issues a copyright alert, which can be a warning, a requirement to watch an educational video, a warning that requires the customer to acknowledge having read it, or a temporary slowdown of service.

The document purported to be from AT&T says customers will receive email alerts at first. After the fourth and fifth alert, "certain websites" will redirect to "an educational page" and customers will be required to complete a short tutorial before they can access those sites again. After fifth infraction, the document warns, the content owner could sue and force AT&T to turn over the customer's information.

According to the document purported to be from Verizon, the ISP will deliver the first alerts by phone and email. The third and fourth alerts will trigger a webpage that requires the customer to acknowledge receiving the alert. Then after the fifth and sixth infractions, Verizon will throttle bandwidth:

Fifth and Sixth Alerts:

Redirect your browser to a special web page where you will be given several options.

You can:

Agree to an immediate temporary (2 or 3 day) reduction in the speed of your Internet access service to 256kbps (a little faster than typical dial-up speed);

Agree to the same temporary (2 or 3 day) speed reduction but delay it for a period of 14 days;or

Ask for a review of the validity of your alerts by the American Arbitration Association. There is a $35 review fee (that you will get back if you win). For subscribers who meet certain need-based eligibility criteria. the review fee will be waived by the AAA.


There is no mention of what happens after that, but the CCI does not require ISPs to cut off service or permanently throttle speeds. Director Jill Lesser said in a radio interview that Lesser said that once a user has been warned six times, "we're just not going to send them any more alerts. Because they are not the kind of customer that we're going to reach with this program."

It has been reported that the ISPs may give the names of repeat infringers to copyright owners in order to pursue legal action, but this has been disputed by the CCI, which says it does not give out customer information. The program has also been criticized as a threat to public Wi-Fi networks, which the CCI has denied, saying that only residential customers will be included in the program. Additionally, the CCI says customers will be able to appeal to a third party reviewer if an alert is falsely triggered.

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Link. Link to promotional video. Maybe I missed it, but didn't see a thread.

A long-delayed set of anti-piracy rules could be put in place early next week. Sources have told both The Daily Dot nd TorrentFreak that five major US ISPs — AT&T, Verizon, Time Warner Cable, Comcast, and Cablevision — will roll out their Copyright Alert System on Monday in a partnership with the entertainment industry. Also referred to as the "six strikes" program, the CAS is a graduated alert system that starts with "educational notices;" if ISPs continue to find copyright infringement, they'll send further reminders and finally throttle or temporarily block internet browsing. It's distinct from more controversial "three strikes" proposals that would cut off users from the internet completely.

According to TorrentFreak, Verizon plans to slow the connections of users who have been found sharing illegal files, while AT&T will block access to popular sites and Time Warner Cable will direct browsers to a landing page. Of course, these plans were mostly reported months ago, back when the program was expected to launch in late 2012. In November, the Center for Copyright Information moved the date back to early 2013, ostensibly because of delays from Hurricane Sandy. It's possible we'll see another delay, but the extremely close date (and the relatively new promotional video below) suggest the CAS is indeed coming soon.
 
if it's such an issue why don't they just ban users who are ccaught pirating? Oh that's right they still want to be able to rip off pirates.
 

akira28

Member
I hope they defeat the fuck out of this. Not because I support piracy, but because I hate everyone involved. Dick kicks all around.
 
Eh..... I don't even mind.

(To be clear I don't expect it to end piracy or anything. Will only have a moderate impact at best.)
 
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No Charter?
Charter finally has a pro to all the cons.
 

Roche

Member
How will they detect piracy? On bases of complains from corps or will they be randomly monitoring traffic?

I imagine they'll have copyright people will be monitoring torrents and such noting IP's and such and then send a letter to offenders. The ISP will then send a letter on to the user.
 

GK86

Homeland Security Fail
I think the first version of this system was 3 strikes, and disconnection. This is a compromise since the ISP's didn't want to play internet police.

Doesn't a basic secure VPN prevent them from seeing what's up?

Yup.

what about city owned networks?

No Charter?
Charter finally has a pro to all the cons.

Only the ISP's listed in the OP. The system is completely voluntarily at this point.
 

Deku Tree

Member
LoL. The system which they will use to implement this is so great!

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/02...m-for-piracy-will-power-us-six-strikes-system


"A copyright monitoring program called MarkMonitor mistakenly flagged HBO.com for pirating its own shows, and sent automatic DMCA takedown notices to the network. It's a funny story, until you realize that MarkMonitor is the same software that will power the U.S. Copyright Alerts System (a.k.a. "Six Strikes"), due to be rolled out by the five largest U.S. ISPs sometime in the next month."
 

Particle Physicist

between a quark and a baryon
yeah. So will this monitor streams, and thus potentially fuck over people streaming from netflix, or possibly new services in the future?
 

kswiston

Member
Considering that we can't even get something as important as federal elections voting machines to work properly, auto-generated copyright complaints should be thrown out.
 
Happy that Charter is not a part of this. I don't pirate anything these days (well, nothing on purpose), but I can only see this fouling up in some way and then making your internet not work.
 

kswiston

Member
I'm glad I'm an adult with a job and no kids. Man this is gonna cause headaches!

I would imagine that a lot of 40-60 year olds who have been pretty apathetic to internet policy/law up until this point are going to be pissed when their services are throttled or disconnected thanks to their piracy happy children.
 
I would imagine that a lot of 40-60 year olds who have been pretty apathetic to internet policy/law up until this point are going to be pissed when their services are throttled or disconnected thanks to their piracy happy children.

For the most part they will be mad at their kids though. At least my parents would have been.

(Not saying people won't call the ISP's angry over it.....but I don't have a ton of sympathy for em.)
 

MIMIC

Banned
if there flagging shit like that there system is gonna get destroyed on monday

They deserve to be trolled.

Someone should make a home movie and title it "The.Big.Bang.Theory.S38E294.HDTV.XviD-CAS", upload it to a torrent website and have half of the Internet download it.
 

kswiston

Member
For the most part they will be mad at their kids though. At least my parents would have been.

(Not saying people won't call the ISP's angry over it.....but I don't have a ton of sympathy for em.)

If things are still the same as they were back when I was in high school (late 90s), this will be like 95% of households with teenagers.

Hell, some of the kids were actual commercial pirates in my high school back before CD-RW drives became generally affordable. For $10 they would make you a custom music CD. $5 if you happened to be a pretty girl.
 
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