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American kids are among the world's least fit.

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Waaghals

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Such a difference between Latvia and Estonia makes me question this study a little bit. They are also tiny countries, so maybe it's more accurate about bigger ones.

Yeah, there's only like three people in each of those countries.

To be serious: This study probably has many hundres and likely thousands of participants per country. It is probably accurate.
 

PixelPeZ

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Such a difference between Latvia and Estonia makes me question this study a little bit. They are also tiny countries, so maybe it's more accurate about bigger ones.

Being from Estonia, I can tell you our cultures are very different despite sharing a border.

Healthy eating and exercise have been big topics here a few years as well on a national level, and portion sizes aren't anything near what they are in the States. Surprising, still. I've always heard from my friends with kids that PE classes are still shit at schools, and kids do stuff like the Cooper Test ( https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Cooper_test ) that I hated with passion when in school two decades ago. On the other hand, all kids seem train in at least one or two sports after school, so even when the rest of the time is spent behind screens, it's evened out?

Edit: Oh, and just in case - PE classes are mandatory, and you are being graded on how you do, and it affects your overall average grades etc.
 

The Pope

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Sport is compulsory and facilities and coaches are provided by schools both government and private. I have never been to the States, what is it like in comparison?
 

Drazgul

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Edit: Oh, and just in case - PE classes are mandatory, and you are being graded on how you do, and it affects your overall average grades etc.

Interesting, in Finland students get grades too but it doesn't affect the average score, which can in part decide where you will be accepted for secondary education.
 

bman94

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My first question would be, how do children travel to school/other activities?
Children need more than 60min of physical activity a day. If you don't have a built environment where walking/cycling to school or just playing outside isn't a viable option, that is hard to accomplish. Even in PE classes and sports clubs the amount of real activity is much less than what the allocated hours would suggest as much time is used in instruction and other things.

Second question: How long are the recesses between classes in school and what do children do during them?

Is playing or doing sports with friends possible within short proximity of the home, where children can go independently?

If you have the right environment, the children will get more than enough physical activity every day. Mostly because that's what children do; run around, play and explore their surroundings. And that is one important factor in overall fitness I believe.

When I was in elementary school my parents didn't let me walk to school even though it was a 10 minute walk there. Cell phones were very expensive at the time so that was way out of the question and while I didn't live in an awful neighborhood, it wouldn't want to walk it alone at that age. My middle and high school I took a bus which picked up and dropped me off at the elementary school I went to and from there I would walk home or go to a friend's house.

Remembering back to elementary school, we barely had any recess. We did a lot in Kindergarten but that's mostly cause my Kindergarten teacher didn't teach us shit. I was mostly in the advanced and high level classes growing up so recess was definitely out of the picture. And just due to the size of my school it was hard anyway cause there was just so many kids there. Recess was more of a reward thanot something mandatory. So when we did have Recess (maybe once or twice a month) it was very special to us.

And even the PE special (which was only 30 minutes to begin with anyway) was taken away from my 4th and 5th grade class (along with Music special) in order for us to have extra math and reading reviews. Years later looking back at my elementary school the basketball courts are not in use anymore and most of the fields are gone now because they had to put more portables on the basketball courts and the fields so they could have more classes.

I was also in aftercare in elementary school so we did get to go outside for a while during that time. I was a fat, uncoordinated kid back then so I didn't really play any sports during that outside time. I do remember me and friends playing a lot of fake dragon Ball Z and hitting each other a lot and playing a lot of kick ball and Dodge ball. When it came to mandatory sports during after care like Basketball and Football I always got picked last. So because of aftercare when I got home was about 6:30-7 and pretty much I just relaxed until I had to go to bed (since they made us do homework during aftercare).

You can take what I say with a grain of salt cause every experience is going to be different but there's a huge lack of physical activity or even free time during the average student's day. And if you're not in PE in middle school or high school? You can just pretty much forget about going outside unless there's like a special project or something.
 

Kayhan

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If I weren't so lazy I would make an American Kids Then/Now with playing in the woods versus playing videogames while sitting on your ass eating doritos.
 

Grenchel

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All I know is when I come over from Canada I am still surprised by how cheap food is. Food is way cheaper over there,even when I factor in the exchange rate.
 
Just in case anyone is interesting in knowing the full list

1. Tanzania (by fricken miles)
2. Iceland
3. Estonia
4. Norway
5. Japan
6. Denmark
7. Czech Republic
8. Finland
9. Cote d'lvoire
10. Morocco
11. France
12. Lithuania
13. Benin
14. Djibouti
15. Mauritius
16. Slovakia
17. Germany
18. Senegal
19. Canada
20. Turkey
21. UK
22. Poland
23. Suriname
24. Belgium
25. China
26. Sweden
27. Austria
28. Netherlands
29. Spain
30. South Africa
31. Switzerland
32. Uganda
33. Seychelles
34. Columbia
35. Australia
36. Hungary
37. Italy
38. Hong Kong
39. Chile
40. Argentina
41. Philippines
42. Greece
43. Portugal
44. Brazil
45. Cyprus
46. Republic of Korea
47. USA
48. Latvia
49. Peru
50. Mexico

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Thanks, was looking for this list
 

Machine

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I wonder if today's parents' irrational fears about kidnapping and pedophilia, a product of the American news media, has had a tertiary effect on fitness.

I think this plays a bigger role than people think. Not just in the reduced amount of unsupervised play but in basic things like going to school. When I was a kid, my school was about 1/2 mile away from our neighborhood. All the kids walked or rode their bikes to and from school. I currently live in a relatively safe, suburban neighborhood and most parents drive their kids the one or two blocks to school because they've become so paranoid about stranger danger. You drive by most K-12 schools and there are far fewer bikes chained to the bike racks in the front of the school than there were 20 years ago.
 

13ruce

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They should promote vegetable/fruit smoothies i'm in no way a vegetable fan myself and those are great. They really do work feeling better since i drink those daily. Maybe sell/give those on schools instead of milk? They can taste quite nice.
 
longe school hours,
few phys ed hours,
parents work long hours and have fewer hours to interact with kids.
fear mentality of not letting kids play outside (when crime rates are at their lowest)
 

jem0208

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Have to say I'm surprised the UK came mid-table. Thought we would be much worse than that
I was initially surprised as well but there are a lot of healthy eating and exercise initiatives in the uk aimed at young children. At least from my experience.
 

entremet

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well, yeah but I'm sure you have youth sports in the US too



yup, there have been. I'm just surprised that something has actually worked for a change.
We do but it's more the purview of middle class and up suburbanites.

Almost the opposite in places like Brazil.
 

Plum

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Have to say I'm surprised the UK came mid-table. Thought we would be much worse than that

Looking at what bman said above about how the US's schools have barely any breaks I'm not surprised. Unless something's drastically changed since I left we had/have at least an hour of free break time each day, and at the very very least the same amount of time in PE lessons each week.
 

daveo42

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Poor diets tied with an increase of time spent working or travelling to and from work to prepare healthier and more balanced meals. Extra work and travel time with a lack of physical mobility helps to compound the issue. Add in an increase of corn syrup and sugar being added to pretty much any and all processed foods that are significantly cheaper, easier to make and are more calorie dense.
 
We do but it's more the purview of middle class and up suburbanites.

Almost the opposite in places like Brazil.

Really? Well yes, in the UK all kids can play organised soccer if they want to regardless of income or social status. At least I think that is the case.
 

Enduin

No bald cap? Lies!
I think another issue is American kids don't really walk anywhere. Our infrastructure is built around driving to 99% of destinations, plus a recent fear of ever letting kids go out on their own, which also cuts down on kid's freedom to just go outside and be active in an unstructured way, really limits how much extended walking a kid will do.

Many of these other countries don't have nearly the same emphasis on automobiles and focus either entirely on walking as the main means of transportation or a strong combination of walking and public transportation, which often relies on walking from whatever train/subway/bus station to your destination.
 
It specifically mentions aerobic fitness, which I think you can directly link to kids not being able to go outside alone anymore. When I was a kid the vast majority of my exercise came from me being able to wander outside and run around the woods or ride my bike whenever I wanted. I have never once in my entire life seen my parents exercise, so if I had to wait for their supervision to go out in the world I would have been in bad shape for sure.
 

Ratrat

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Rationalization BS. How do you explain Japan?
Kids walk to school. You see 8 year olds walking around, take trains etc completely alone. Its a safer/percieved to be safer country.

This is mostly about children. Even then, in many countries (not sure about Korea) being really muscular is considered attractive and fit but it's not really gonna help you in an aerobic test. There are guys that look fit but get winded after a flight of stairs.
Thats true. Still a bit surprising.
 

Kusagari

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Kids don't play outside any more, P.E. classes and outside time are being cut in schools, portion sizes are ridiculous, etc.
 

Pau

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I also read a report a few months ago that showed how kids today spend more time with their parents than they did fifty years ago. Unsupervised play used to be pretty common, at parks and riding bikes through the neighborhood and what not. I wonder if today's parents' irrational fears about kidnapping and pedophilia, a product of the American news media, has had a tertiary effect on fitness.
Yeah, the only time I was really able to do exercise without my parents' supervision outside of school was at sports teams at the YMCA. I wasn't allowed to play or ride my bike in the front yard or use the pool in the backyard unless someone could watch me.
 
Yep. The shit diet that many here consume makes me sad. At the grocery store you walk by group huge parents trailed by obese kids. Their cart filled with all sorts of garbage like frozen pizzas, colorful cereal, juices, soda, boxed meals, etc. Nary a vegetable or fresh protein in sight.
Proteins like meat and fish requires cooking. Until parents take up cooking or there's a nationwide campaign to increase cooking skills like we've had over here in the UK happens, say goodbye to balanced meals.
 
No shit. There are more fast food restaurants than schools. Public or private.

And fast foods infiltrate schools. The healthy options aren't even healthy. Most meals back in high school were loaded with sugar and fat. Even more kids had an option to purchase more or just move to the snack bar to get their favorite fried foods everyday. PE is a joke, most just sit around and not even try and even then actual exercise was like 30min due to the schedule.

I do wonder since fitness and having a good body is so widely mainstream nowadays that we have an issue hmm....
 
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