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American kids are among the world's least fit.

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I blame all the serial killers who existed in the 50s, 60s, and 70s who scared today's parents into thinking the world isn't safe for children to play outside alone.
 

Krejlooc

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Subjects were evaluated using a multi-stage fitness test also known as the “beep” test. How it works: You run back and forth between two points 66 feet apart to synchronized beeps. The point where you can’t reach the line before the beep, that’s your level.

I used to love doing this in elementary school.
 

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Enduin

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I think this picture is relevant to the discussion here. It's a school yard during February in northern Finland.
Stolen from this blog post, which covers physical activity: https://stacykissel.com/2015/02/26/walk-bike-ski-or-sled/

It's not so much the snow that is the issue, but the route to the school in snow. A partially plowed main road, with no shoulder that has been salted or sanded leaving a slushy mix on the sides is a whole lot more dangerous than dedicated bike paths or low traffic roads with ample shoulder room to ride.

A lot of places in the US could certainly and should offer better accommodations for bike travel, especially those that don't have to worry too much about winter conditions, but where I grew up it's simply not feasible due to the terrain and roads. It's incredibly spread out and hilly with dramatic changes in elevation over short distances and many roads don't have any room to expand or share space with cyclist as they're practically or literally carved out of the sides of hills. The main road which the school is on as well is technically a highway, albeit two lanes, but there are no shortage of 16-18 wheeler trucks passing by every few minutes as it's one of the only East-West routes across the state.
 
When I was a kid, I thought I was the fattest fuck around.

Now when I look at pictures from back then, I don't think I'm even close to approaching the average of today's little bloblings.
 
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It always raises my eyebrows to see people care so much about fastfood menus. Those constant OT threads in particular make me go "really?"

GAF and other places are obsessed with changes and new things to fast food restaurants, like ooh they brought back the McChicken Rapunzel burger or whatever and people queue up in lines for this new thing. It's bizarre. If only this kind of obsession was there for healthy food, it'd be a nice balance.
 

entremet

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When I was a kid, I thought I was the fattest fuck around.

Now when I look at pictures from back then, I don't think I'm even close to approaching the average of today's little bloblings.

Yeah. It's depressing. You even see this areas with a lot of walking like NYC.

You can't out exercise shitty food, though.
 
Holy fuck

I've never, in my life, seen a salad like that before

she has the calorie count for her salad in the video... I'm counting along with it. The condiment alone is more than twice the calorie intake an average person should have for an entire day.

That's like a setup for a some kind of dare-challenge. Holy crap. Enough calories for a small village.

Almost 9000 calories, good fucking god.

It'd literally be healthier, and less sweet, to eat a full cup of sugar by itself.

Here is a nice healthy iced coffee to wash it down with.
 
after just spending 7 days in NY it shows

also no matter where we ate (tried a lot of different places) my mouth felt very salty, and I didn't pour salt on any of my meals lol
 

Infinite

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I feel like obesity is another one of those issues where everyone talks around what the real solutions actually entail.
 

entremet

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mainly diners and mid-tier restaurants, no street food - that stuff looked horrid

Diners. Yeah lol.

Diner food is so damn fattening lol. They're not called Greasy Spoons for nothing!

If you want to remain in decent shape in America, you will need to do a lot of home cooking. Or you can burn through cash at higher end, healthy places.
 
Portion sizes are definitely a big contributor to that. Earlier this year, I began to try and lose weight by calorie counting, and I was genuinely surprised at how many calories I was eating before. Smaller sized portion meals that people would think are lower in calories are actually like 800 to 1000. It's easy to see how if parents are just feeding their kids these "small" meals and other types of frozen foods that are "snacks" without paying attention to their nutritional content, it would add up and hurt a child's fitness.
 

Krejlooc

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It's basically a suicide spread over a series of videos

I mean that sort of shit isn't normal even for the US is it?

I just watched her video on flour tortillas

she added an entire cup of lard to her tortillas, then ended the episode recommending people cover them in sugar.

Hell no that's not normal in the US
 

siddx

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Sounds like a pretty limited and overall worthless way to measure fitness but maybe I'm not picturing it right.

Anyways, U.S. problem with obesity lies with portions. They are absurdly large, far more than any other place I've ever been. The food itself is fine, it's that people eat a family portion themselves.
 

ZOONAMI

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Was this fine dining, fast food, street food, or all the above?

We generally cook with a lot of butter/oil and salt here in the states, even in restaurants. Have to seek out places that intentionally cater towards healthy food.

Even higher end places with quality ingredients are probably going to be using a lot of fat and salt in their cooking. Italian restaurants, diners, and steak joints probably being the worst offenders.

Delicious though ;)
 

Ferulci

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Just in case anyone is interesting in knowing the full list

1. Tanzania (by fricken miles)
2. Iceland
3. Estonia
4. Norway
5. Japan
6. Denmark
7. Czech Republic
8. Finland
9. Cote d'lvoire
10. Morocco
11. France
12. Lithuania
13. Benin
14. Djibouti
15. Mauritius
16. Slovakia
17. Germany
18. Senegal
19. Canada
20. Turkey
21. UK
22. Poland
23. Suriname
24. Belgium
25. China
26. Sweden
27. Austria
28. Netherlands
29. Spain
30. South Africa
31. Switzerland
32. Uganda
33. Seychelles
34. Columbia
35. Australia
36. Hungary
37. Italy
38. Hong Kong
39. Chile
40. Argentina
41. Philippines
42. Greece
43. Portugal
44. Brazil
45. Cyprus
46. Republic of Korea
47. USA
48. Latvia
49. Peru
50. Mexico

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First time I ever see Benin being (almost) on the top of something. What a day.
 

Krejlooc

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You think North Koreans aren't fit?

hell no

they are dramatically shorter than south Koreans after only half a century of isolation because most people had their growth stunted from not eating. If we were judging North Koreans purely on body image, they'd still be unfit, because they tend to have distended bellies from starving to death.
 

RDreamer

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Probably a combination of many things. We have a terrible food culture in the US, and I don't think kids go outside for unsupervised play nearly as much as they used to. It's probably the scared culture combined with more interesting shit inside like video games. You can connect with your friends via internet now. Back when I was growing up you had to go over to their house to play a game with them and that at least meant getting out a little bit and at most meant a good bunch of exercise.
 

moggio

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Anyways, U.S. problem with obesity lies with portions. They are absurdly large, far more than any other place I've ever been. The food itself is fine, it's that people eat a family portion themselves.

When I'm in the States, a starter is generally enough to feed me for three days.
 
I did a version of that beep test with my elementary students when I taught English in Japan. It started at level 1, with a generous amount of time in between beeps. I personally ended at something like level 52, where you had a few seconds to clear it. Most kids made it to the 30s and 40s; maybe 4 or 5 went past my level.
 

Lamel

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That's weird, when I was that age we played outside all the time. Same with my younger family members now.
 

Jasup

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It's not so much the snow that is the issue, but the route to the school in snow. A partially plowed main road, with no shoulder that has been salted or sanded leaving a slushy mix on the sides is a whole lot more dangerous than dedicated bike paths or low traffic roads with ample shoulder room to ride.

A lot of places in the US could certainly and should offer better accommodations for bike travel, especially those that don't have to worry too much about winter conditions, but where I grew up it's simply not feasible due to the terrain and roads. It's incredibly spread out and hilly with dramatic changes in elevation over short distances and many roads don't have any room to expand or share space with cyclist as they're practically or literally carved out of the sides of hills. The main road which the school is on as well is technically a highway, albeit two lanes, but there are no shortage of 16-18 wheeler trucks passing by every few minutes as it's one of the only East-West routes across the state.
The route to the school is one thing, yes. The city that picture's taken in is quite flat, although Rovaniemi, which was covered in the blog post is hillier. On the other hand that school the picture's taken from is in quite low density suburban area.

But there are other factors too. For example that every new suburban development has to have a school that can accommodate the young children within that area. It's to keep the school trip easy enough for kids to traverse independently.

Also the priority in road planning in suburbs is given to safe and short walking/cycling routes. It's that way because of politics, there were people who fought for it and now that it's the norm no one wants to get rid of it.

I agree that very hilly terrain can be a major obstacle, therefore I'd be interested to hear how Norwegians do it.
 
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