Though these are primarily the interest of gamers, practically everyone has played a videogame at some point in their lives. However, dorks, and especially nerds, are nowadays constantly bemoaning the loss of innovation and the business failure of Nintendo and Sega. The nerdiest gamers of all generally consider the SNK Neo Geo to be the best games console ever, citing power and gameplay as their reasons. Since this cost in the region of £200, most gamers consider the best console to be either Nintendo's SNES or Sega's Saturn (or occasionally Dreamcast). Nowadays, dorks are almost (though not completely) unanimous in their verdict that Nintendo is the best videogame and console developer, and that it is unfairly failing due to Sony and Microsoft appealing directly to pop culture with generic, technically impressive games, which catch the attention of dweebs as well. (Some say that the PlayStation never truly became mainstream, though this ignores studies which show the people actually spend more time on average playing games than watching TV). The result of this is that more games are made for Sony/Microsoft, so game developers pay less attention to Nintendo, resulting in a cycle of less games for Nintendo causing popularity to drop and more games developed for Sony and Microsoft... and the cycle keeps on going. Fortunately for Nintendo fans, the GameCube/Xbox situation in Japan is inverted and Nintendo is profiting, while Microsoft is losing money on the videogame market