ashbash159
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Still waiting for my Moto X to update here in the UK.
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Android 5.0 Lollipop announced
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AlteredForms
Banned
Nexus 4 has yet to receive it. Something fierce.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
The OTA process is quite slow, they start with only 1% of all devices over the first two days or so, then 25% of devices over a few more, then 50% and so on, so even after the process has started it can take up to 2 weeks to get the OTA update.
Also, there's no point checking more than once a day for it, the "check for updates" button only actually checks once in a 24 hour period, and other checks are then cached and will return the same result as the first until the next day.
You may as well flash the factory image now it's available.
The Nexus 4 OTA for Lollipop hasn't started yet.
Azure Dream
Member
I have the preview version of Lollipop on my Nexus 7, the one just prior to the official release. Will I be able to upgrade via the Settings menu, or will I have to reflash the tablet, since it was a preview release?
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
You'll need to re-flash, those on preview won't get an OTA update.
I just finished flashing my N5 to stock 5.0. Fuck all the waiting for OTA nonsense. If Apple can launch on everything in one day Google should be able to as well, especially since most Android phones use custom versions they really only have to worry about distributing to Nexus devices and a few other vanillas out there. The burden is probably very small compared to what Apple deals with.
AlteredForms
Banned
Any approximate date we can get it? The OTA update, not the factory image.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
The only approximation so far is "next few weeks", it can take anywhere from one day to two weeks once the rollout starts.
Got in on my Nexus 5 now. Overall it's definitely a huge leap forward - far more vibrant and usable than anything that's come before.
That said it's still very much a ".0" product. Wiping the slate clean means there is plenty of room for refinements. On a more technical side, some weird little lags and glitches persist and there are a number of layout issues.
That said it's still very much a ".0" product. Wiping the slate clean means there is plenty of room for refinements. On a more technical side, some weird little lags and glitches persist and there are a number of layout issues.
MarkMclovin
Member
Ah thanks for that bit of info. I didn't know how slow the rollout was. I don't check all the time, just this morning after hearing it's rolling out now.
Does the facory image wipe the device?
AlteredForms
Banned
Curse you Google. Have all that money and still can't match Apple in software updates. I'm being bitter because I'm a child in a sweet shop and want everything now!
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Yeah it does, although there are methods for flashing without wiping (modifing the flash-all.bat) I wouldn't recommend it as people have reported mixed results from doing so, especially as so much has changed under the hood (ART etc.)
I wouldn't worry about flashing without wiping, as long as you were already stock...unless you're paranoid enough to wipe before every OTA update, personally I don't have time to constantly set my devices up over and over...
Azure Dream
Member
Frustration! But thank you for the info.
It's not about money, or bandwidth, or anything. They do it so that if a critical bug gets shipped, they only have to worry about a small fraction of users with the issue. It's completely logical.
If you want it right now, you can get the factory images, you can flash them to your phone and restore from the device profile during setup!
AlteredForms
Banned
It's not about money, or bandwidth, or anything. They do it so that if a critical bug gets shipped, they only have to worry about a small fraction of users with the issue. It's completely logical.
If you want it right now, you can get the factory images, you can flash them to your phone and restore from the device profile during setup!
I understand the release plan entirely, but I still want to vent my frustration somewhere. I WANT IT NOW!!!
BrettWeir
Member
Thanks guys! Only reason I went with Samsung is due to Nexus devices not having a microSD slot. Guess I can't have my cake and eat it too. Then again, iPhones don't have a microSD either, so moot point.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
As someone who's had a microSD enabled s3 as well as my current phone, a nexus 5, I think I will stick with the Nexus 5. Although I wouldn't be as happy if I didn't have the 32 GB model vs the 16 GB. I'm perfectly content and still have around 22 GB left on my Nexus 5.
AlteredForms
Banned
Try having an HTC One M8 GPE and being at the whim of HTC!
I feel your pain
Let's hug and make up.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Does she have any non-synced app data that's really important? Many times you can just manually backup that (such as game saves), although sometimes that's unfortunately not possible without root. Just about everything else should be synced to her Google account as long as syncing is turned on. Contacts, photos, etc, all that stuff should be in the cloud. And the phone automatically downloads the apps she had installed (and their data if they support that, which many unfortunately don't) if you tell it to. SMS messages are the exception, as those are not automatically synced (unless you use Google Voice for that). I use SMS Backup & Restore for that, works great.
So yeah, I'd say what you're doing is a bit overkill unless there's a really good reason why you're doing all that work. Nandroid backups are good to have if you're trying out a lot of custom ROMs and stuff and might need to revert to exactly how the phone was before, but for the normal user I don't see the need.
Flashing without wiping is a very common cause of issues that you just don't get if you do wipe, especially with major updates like this one. I wouldn't recommend it.
phalestine
aka iby.h
Would you say the roms that are available now are for daily use?
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
You're right, after downloading everything it runs pretty smooth now; smoother than 4.4.4 for sure.
Just reading through some posts at XDA and it appears the Moto G 1st gen (2013) won't be getting the OTA until at least next week. It's just entering the 'soak' test before roll out now. The 2014 X and G could get the update as early as tomorrow. The internals on the 2013 G are identical to the 2014 save for the screensize, so it will probably leak for early flashers.
peppermints
Member
Put it on my 2013 Nexus 7 last night. It's beautiful. Feels like a brand new OS in many aspects.
Still patiently waiting for the OTA on my 2014 Moto X.
Still patiently waiting for the OTA on my 2014 Moto X.
tycoonheart
Member
Got the factory image installed on my Nexus 5.
Liking it so far.
Real test will be seeing how the battery holds up.
Liking it so far.
Real test will be seeing how the battery holds up.
chicagocubsfan
Member
Has this come to the LG G3 yet? Interested in the battery saving feature for sure.
The battery life on my Nexus 7 (2012) has been great! Hasn't dropped from 100% in two hours!
(I guess the Nexus 7 has a battery readout glitch in Lollipop)
How do they determine which 1% get the update?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Yeah, the new sign-in process is great. No more ugly web crap for 2FA, instead you get the options you need right there.
What, is the latter happening? It should. The current design looks severely outdated. Let's get some Material goodness up in this bitch!
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It's not different at all on the surface, except that it comes with all the Google apps you'd expect. Maybe a bit smoother (which means it's really, really smooth).
The Nvidia Tablet is getting Lollipop on the 18th. Impressively fast. It is effectively the Nexus 8 in my opinion. Here is a little hands-on from what appears to be a media event:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6xXwLVf7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6xXwLVf7o
Coming from stock Android on my Nexus 7 2012, how would I flash without wiping?
tycoonheart
Member
So I'm on Straight Talk and Lollipop, MMS is not working. APN settings are from their website. Anyone else seeing MMS issues?
Edit: Nvm, fixed it.
Edit: Nvm, fixed it.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/13/flash-all-the-things-lollipop-ota-update-zip-file-roundup/
OTA Update for the N5. Can flash without any modifications to your phone.
OTA Update for the N5. Can flash without any modifications to your phone.
Look at my post above yours. There's a guide in there that will mean you don't need to wipe anything.
Why would you do that?
Member
There are a couple games she really wanted to keep her progress in, games which I don't know if they support sync or not. Like Plants vs Zombies 2, for example.
And I guess I'm used to doing all of this backing up because I do play around with custom ROMs a lot, but it's much more annoying to do this kind of backing up on devices lacking SD cards, or if you can't find an OTG cable. Moving large amounts of data around internal storage and over MTP isn't fun...
RoadHazard
Gold Member
For many games you can just grab their save data from Android/data/ and put it back in the same place after installing the game again, but yeah, sometimes that's not possible.
KennyLinder
Member
Not so far.