Vyse The Legend
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For the love of god, HTC, don't fucking skimp on the Nexus battery. Shit needs to be 3,500+ mAh minimum. No one gives a flying fuck about thinness.
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Android |OT6| Huawei or the iWay [Nobody Reads Edition]
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brotkasten
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I still haven't heard a convincing argument why ditching the 3.5 mm port is a good thing.
The Faceless Master
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it's a good thing for content providers due to them adding NDCP to stop 3.5mm audio piracy.
it a good thing for manufacturers as they will save money on parts while keeping the sale price the same.
it's a good thing for retailers as they will have a new market for newer, more expensive accessories with a higher profit margin.
brotkasten
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Yeah, I get that all. But what about the consu... Oh.
Audio quality potentially, passing data from sensors in headphones such as heart rate monitoring back to a phone.
brotkasten
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"Potentially", maybe. Probably not. Who knows.
The thing is, if you want to do that, you already can. There are already wireless headphones out there, on the store shelves. Even designing an entirely new wireless protocol around it is possible. That still doesn't require the headphone jack to be removed.
So, why is this a good thing for the consumer?
The Faceless Master
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but that doesn't have anything to do with removing the 3.5mm port.
that stuff can be done even if a 3.5mm jack is included also.
in fact, some of that stuff is already possible with Micro-B since ICS.
Jigolo
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Your tag is wrong
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Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Got my LG G3 update to Marshmallow today..
The road continues as I try and see just how long I can keep this phone.
I got no general usage complaints, and I can play Hearthstone with Mr Kill the Headphone Jack. So I'm happy.
The road continues as I try and see just how long I can keep this phone.
I got no general usage complaints, and I can play Hearthstone with Mr Kill the Headphone Jack. So I'm happy.
Vyse The Legend
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Dude, no. Just no. The phones are thin enough. Stop it. When the phones are so thin that they are susceptible to bending, you know you fucked up.
Guys, I'm currently on a Lumia 520, which has become a slog and the battery doesn't last at all.
I have about a 300€ budget, and I was thining about either the Nexus 5x (I can get it for 300€ for the next few days) or the Moto X Play for 280 pretty much.
I don't care about gaming and that kind of stuff, I just want a phone that wont become a slog after 2 years possibly, and a good battery.
I know the X Play as a better battery, but which one would you suggest?
I have about a 300€ budget, and I was thining about either the Nexus 5x (I can get it for 300€ for the next few days) or the Moto X Play for 280 pretty much.
I don't care about gaming and that kind of stuff, I just want a phone that wont become a slog after 2 years possibly, and a good battery.
I know the X Play as a better battery, but which one would you suggest?
The only thing the Moto X play has going for it is the battery and microSD support. For only 20 more I'd get the 5x, no question about it. The 5x has a faster soc, better camera, and it's a Nexus which I find important since you'll get a couple of years of prompt updates out of it.
In other news Pocket just released an update which supposedly fixes the battery drain issue. Let's see.
EDIT: Seems to be fixed so far.
former Moto CEO Rick Osterloh is headed back to Google: http://recode.net/2016/04/28/google-hardware-division-rick-osterloh/
Don't make another Nexus 6 plz
http://recode.net/2016/04/28/google-hardware-division-rick-osterloh/
Don't make another Nexus 6 plz
http://recode.net/2016/04/28/google-hardware-division-rick-osterloh/
brotkasten
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It's too late for this year, but I hope he can fix the Nexus 5.
VICTORsaurio
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Fenix for Twitter is back on the play store, they reached some sort of agreement with Twitter apparently.
osiris3355
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And it begins
Baroquemantic
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Nice! A Pixel 5 & 6 for next year would be great. I'd like to see Google design its own chips too.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
We'll finally be encouraged to use wireless. It's been ignored. Bluetooth is bad and 3.5mm is easy. We could make a new wireless now, sure, but sometimes you have to drag people into the future. "Good enough" seemed to be the case with wireless. I'm betting that will change with 3.5mm dead. Finally.
This is super interesting.
brotkasten
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Like I said, you can still do that without removing the port. Not to mention that manufacturers will just fall back to Bluetooth, because it's easy and cheap for them. Also, yet another shitty thing you have to charge. Wireless will also use up more battery on the phone itself.
Again, only drawbacks for consumers with zero benefits so far.
So my Nexus 5 appears to have died sometime during the work day today. Unable to get it to power on (working my way through google's troubleshooting at the moment). I had been hoping to upgrade to this years new nexus model when they drop, but will obviously need a phone to fill the gap between now and then.
I'm willing to give up most of my apps etc between now and then so really all I need is voice/text/email/web/maps that'll run on Tmobile. Any recommendations for phones that can be had in the ~$100 or less range running android that'll fit the bill?
Edit: On second thought I'm probably just better off biting the bullet and grabbing a 5X with the Fi deal.
I'm willing to give up most of my apps etc between now and then so really all I need is voice/text/email/web/maps that'll run on Tmobile. Any recommendations for phones that can be had in the ~$100 or less range running android that'll fit the bill?
Edit: On second thought I'm probably just better off biting the bullet and grabbing a 5X with the Fi deal.
Yeah, I wonder if they increased their token limit or if they got rid of it altogether, maybe by giving Twitter part of each sale? The price seemed to increase too.
The Faceless Master
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sounds shady
Watch people complain about their 2.4 GHz wifi Internet collapse on them once these phones start rolling out.
Wifi congestion is already very bad.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
No one would use it if the port were still there. It's forcing a better future. It's like asking why remove flash entirely when we can keep both, then switch when the new standard is better. No one would switch.
Can't wait. Consumers are always whining about short term drawbacks. Again, like flash.
I remember using special miniUSB headphones on a HTC Touch Diamond.
I can't believe this is a feature coming back and people are arguing pros about it when it was an inconvenience.
My upgrade to a new smartphone that had a 3.5 mm jack made me happy as I no longer had to search for that special pair of headphones whenever I wanted to listen to music quietly. I can also listen and charge at the same time.
I could use bluetooth headphones, but those are a pain as they usually have irreplaceable batteries. You also have to remember to charge them.
I can't believe this is a feature coming back and people are arguing pros about it when it was an inconvenience.
My upgrade to a new smartphone that had a 3.5 mm jack made me happy as I no longer had to search for that special pair of headphones whenever I wanted to listen to music quietly. I can also listen and charge at the same time.
I could use bluetooth headphones, but those are a pain as they usually have irreplaceable batteries. You also have to remember to charge them.
longdi
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Yea the Apple comeback story is like the best ever since we humans started harnessing the power of sand and logic. Apple is not daft to throw all that and all of us under the bus over some illogical battle of jacks.
Their end goal will be high quality wireless everything. Things will get worse before they get better. In 5 years time, we see clearly why Apple did what they have to do.
What are you doing to your phones?
Psychological Intellect
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why did google remove 'open image in new tab' and 'copy image url' from chrome? wtf man.
Certainly for Apple I'm surprised they dont make their own wireless format. Hell make a portless phone. Their own wireless standard for headphones and inductive charging.
-Pyromaniac-
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interesting...interesting. Still waiting on that google made line of nexus phones.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I don't see much changing, I guess. Nexus phones have not been disappointing, other than the S and 6.
-Pyromaniac-
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lol you know those are the worst, your trolling has gone TOO FAR.
Jazzy Network
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How is he trolling?
Never had a Galaxy Nexus? 6 is miles ahead of the galaxy Nexus
Well thats never going to happen anymore than apple actually making phones is.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
How? Did you read my post in the inverse? Heh
I did and it was fine relative to phones of the time. It just got outdated fast. 6 was bad because of its price. Good phone, otherwise.
brotkasten
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Except that flash didn't disappear overnight and there was a transition period. And the only pro you can cite is some hypothetically better audio quality? You don't even know if that's even going to happen. There's no standard that's significantly better and ready in place to replace the headphone jack. With Flash we at least had H.264 for videos ready to go. What's the equivalent for audio on phones?
Bots are better than you
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I thought HTC was rumored to make two Nexus devices this year?
But there's always the year after that. Still, funny to see the headline on Ars
Goodbye, Nexus 9you will not be missed
The worst Nexus device is no longer for sale on the Google Store.
Bots are better than you
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Yeah, "wait for 20XX", "year or the Google made Nexus". ;]
At this point, i'm just keen on getting some juicy rumors about this years devices, as i really want to retire my good old N5 2013.
brotkasten
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I just want them to bring wireless charging back. Fucking Huawei.
-Pyromaniac-
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oh you basically said the same thing I am, haha. Yeah, fuck. Those 2 were awful.
this year yeah but doesn't stop google from doing for it i/o 2017 or I guess Q3.
Saiyan-Rox
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You'll get a 1,000mAh battery and like it
Hey, guys. My provider got me a deal and I can buy from them the LG G4 or Galaxy S6. S6 would cost me 3x more, but it would still be manageable.
I don't know what to do now, they both look good on paper.
I have the HTC One M7 right now, and use it all the time, four hours to and from work, and while at work I listen to music on it or watch YouTube.
What would you suggest?
I don't know what to do now, they both look good on paper.
I have the HTC One M7 right now, and use it all the time, four hours to and from work, and while at work I listen to music on it or watch YouTube.
What would you suggest?
The S6 is better than the G4 but not 3x better.
I'd get the G4 simply because of the replaceable battery. The S6 has abysmal battery life.
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