Wind's Howling
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And I do not like that part of him. Is that so difficult to understand?
Angry Joe Responds to MS DRM
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And I do not like that part of him. Is that so difficult to understand?
Why would he show blind brand loyalty? The PS4 is clearly the more powerful and flexible machine for the cheaper price with great first-party studios to back it. Getting the PS4 over the Xbone makes sense.
I've been primarily 360 for most of this generation (more PS3 lately), and I'm getting a PS4 as my next-gen console of choice as well.
Falcs
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So mutch hate on joe here damn. I hope some of you have the guts to stand in front someone like Major Nelson when you dare to ask question like he did he is no reporter or journalist but a person who has a passion like a lot of do play videogames and he is like many others also very vocal on what is good and what not and he does everything him self from reviews to interviews.
okay, we get it. He is to loud.
I'm sure there are hundreds of soft spoken reviewers on youtube you can listen to.
Here a little fact: Companies are there to make money. They are not your friend. They want your money. Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Apple, Google. They want your money and nothing else.
So they did do it for us. Because without us, they do not get money. They didnt do it because they like us. They did it because they need our wallet.
Simple. He is a Xbox loyalist he Bragged to M. Nelson about his gamertag stating his 10+ years loyalty. This dude probably feels awkward holding a PS control, xbox one continues his beloved xbox 360 control design again he has no reason to get PS4. If he does is so because he can with YT money but will not be doing Killzone reviews
Pretty much.
So you are just going to ignore all the other posts and just carry on with your agenda? Yeah, you'll last long here.
Wind's Howling
Member
I do not hate him for what he does. I actually applaud him for having the balls to speak up against the big guys of gaming, but just stop the unintelligent "gotta grab your attention" yelling. It just does not work for me.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I was holding back after your last comment but you keep posting this.
We all understand you don't like Joe or his videos. What I don't understand is why you are still in here posting.
Guys I hate Joe! he rubs me the wrong way! GUYS!! JOE IS SO ANNOYING.
I don't usually make it a point to hang around threads of things I hate. Guess that's just me.
Seasoned Badger
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He had multiple 360 red ring on him and the thought of switching have never crossed his mind. The grip MS has on him is strong. If Xbone and PS4 came out on the same day and he only had money for 1 console, I have money on him getting the Xbone first.
Yessss! I was waiting for this gif.
He said he would be buying a PS4. Secondly, why do you care what system he mainly plays on? Him owning a Xbone isn't going to stop my enjoyment of owning a PS4. MS face planting would have been horrible for the entire console industry.
does he actually play them on PC?
any PC footage he shows usually has a "footage from user x" in one of the corners.
Wind's Howling
Member
But that is where you are wrong. I do not hate him (read my last post).
Of course. But not every company is the same. Not every company is 'evil'. That depends a lot on the company culture.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I saw your last post after I had posted that. Sorry.
We get you don't like Joe. Do you have some alternatives? I love watching and listening to Youtube game stuff while at work and could use some more.
He play most of his games on PC recently because he can afford a good PC now. He started with Risen 2 in fact because people said that Risen 1 port was bad.
JetBlackPanda
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I had a console red ring on me before I bought a PS3 and I still got an Xbox. All of my friends were on LIVE so that is what I bought. It happens guys. It doesnt mean I am some Xbot that is out to get Sony.
FlashbladeGAF
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We understand it, but we also are different and have a high tolerance.
Especially when we know it's an act.
Look at any of his official reviews. He puts time and care into making them an actual review with gameplay inserts and cosplay instead of just turning on a webcam and speaking randomness.
These quick "rants" are there as a quick release to let his subscribers know his well thought out opinions but also to tell them with his "Angry" persona
But yeah I totally get some people aren't feeling it. But it's an act, so I can enjoy it on those merits, even if he's yelling at something I do or don't like
None of the companies are evil. Some are simply eccentric and like to do stuff that other do not. Do not think for a minute that Nintendo is any better than Microsoft. They are simply brighter to not try this kind of policies. Some guy at Microsoft probably got fired because he thought that the public wanted this.
Wind's Howling
Member
I actually do like him for what he does. He is one of the few who dares to speak up against the companies who think they can screw us gamers to infinity and beyond.
But you know why I was being negative and I am falling into repetition
He is whining because some guy who has promised him an interview, fucked with him. I honestly, dont see the problem here. He is not a professional journalist, but he was literally beeing pissed on.
You fail to realize many were all for their vision, championing their DRM lifestyle, they were going for full control of their mass fanbase you never saw any twitter campaign to stop that did you? and if you did MS didnt listen at all as you saw them at E3 still trying to sell this idea.
They listened to the shareholders reaction and changed it all up
So no they didnt do it for you, MS doesnt need money from gaming
to survive in their business life, Xbox didnt make MS into the wealthy
Giants they are.
Wind's Howling
Member
It has absolutely nothing to do with having a high(er) tolerance.
Exactly. I'm a playstation guy but you'd have to be blind not to recognise that this guy had the same values as us. He seems like a stand up guy, and this is coming from someone who is not much of a "youtube personality" enthusiast.
Ok we get it you don't like Joe. Joe isn't a journalist, he is a gamer just like you. It's abit rude to shit on your fellow gaffer like that.
Haha, yes the NoDRM campaign for the Xbone was less than Fuse sales numbers.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
then how about being different (which I also said among other points)
can we be different?
They did listen to us. How? Because people spoke with there wallets. The Ps4 had the double the amount of Xbox 1 Preorder. The double. This is a lot of money going to Sony and not Microsoft, as most house only buy ONE console each gen.
Shareholders didnt like it because Microsoft were not going to make money while Sony was. We are the cows, without us, there is no steaks. If they want steak, they have to give us something good to eat, or else we will simply go to the other farms.
Was moderately surprised to hear he was going to get both consoles, instead of going back to Microsoft. For a guy the does reviews, that is probably appropriate.
He does have a point about the family plan though. I might've needed a little finessing, maybe a little reworking, but there's no reason Microsoft or Sony couldn't do that for digital titles.
In fact, I really hope Sony announces some sort of plan along those lines. It'd be a funny way to come back and generate some more good will and all that.
He does have a point about the family plan though. I might've needed a little finessing, maybe a little reworking, but there's no reason Microsoft or Sony couldn't do that for digital titles.
In fact, I really hope Sony announces some sort of plan along those lines. It'd be a funny way to come back and generate some more good will and all that.
Foxy Fox 39
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so many people hating who didnt even watch the video lol.
Falcs
Banned
Right, So Microsoft doesn't care if Xbox doesn't make money.
I guess just like Apple doesn't care if the iPhone doesn't make money.
flatearthpandas
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Watch the fucking video, dude. The last two pages of this thread are you just saying things that are directly contradicted if you just watch the video that spawned this thread in the first place.
Why shouldn't people be happy that MS reversed their policy? It doesn't make them saints. No one is saying that. Angry Joe didn't say that. Half of this video is still him saying, "fuck Microsoft, what they tried to do is bullshit, and fuck them again for taking away family sharing like a pouting child."
But he and other people are happy because 1) consumer outrage successfully changed something horrible and 2) the Xbox 180 can actually compete in the next gen now, where before it was essentially written off already. People are happy because they can actually consider buying a 180 now. From the tone of your posts, it sounds like it's painful to recognize that some people might like Microsoft as a company and may even prefer their IPs to Sony, but people who do happen to like their games can now feel easier about purchasing the system because it isn't horrible anymore. That is something to celebrate.
Angry Joe says explicitly that he's still going to buy a PS4 because he believes Sony deserves it for not trying to fuck people over in the first place. But now the 180 can at least be an option.
You're clearly pretty upset about that. That people are considering getting a 180 and aren't still writing it off even now that its bullshit has been removed. You're here on the internet trying scare strangers out of buying it because, "Oh, maybe they'll bring the policies back later!" It's true. Maybe the will. And maybe Sony will change their minds too and adopt it.
The important part is the policies are gone. There's no legitimate reason not to celebrate the removal of those policies. All you're doing is crying that all the money isn't going to go to Sony anymore now that Microsoft fixed their blunder. Of course it would be wise to counsel caution, but this Sony fanboy reaction doesn't come across as caution. It comes across as fanboy rage that MS is back in the game. If that isn't the emotion driving you in this thread, I think you ought to try wording your arguments differently.
He is bias towards MS, his loyal to xbox franchises/ lifestye. when you get all giddy and tell M.Nelson about your loyalty mark on your gamertag that says it all.
All I am saying is he is happy now he wont be forced to get ps4 only, now he can have his beloved xbox and play that mainly. Him doing PS4 games reviews would look so weird now you know aint doing that. He didnt get all those subs for doing PS games reviews
If he is getting a PS4 is for offline Joe at home time, not for the YT persona Angry Joe time.
ElectricKaibutsu
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The positives were either things MS never mentioned (low prices) or were extremely vague about (how they would use the cloud in a non-BS way).This ain't Angry Joe! Where's the Angry (not at the beginning =P)
Relevant to the video:
Don Mattrick's First Draft of the Xbox One Update Announcement (Parody)
I know it's a joke but it's not funny because it's true, because it's not true.
Well since it was Sony not going along with this because of gamers complaints it means gamers can take credit for this by extension.
Seasoned Badger
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I didn't say he wasn't going to get the PS4, just that he would most likely get the Xbone first if both console launched on the same day and he only had money for 1.
NotoriousPUG
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Never heard a video of his before. Made it 30 seconds and had to shut it off. Maybe he has good points, but he presents himself horribly.
Falcs
Banned
This makes no fucking sense. What you think if he starts doing PS reviews he'll lose viewers? If anything he'll get more.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
wait we arent allowed to be fans of shit now?
And us being fans means we cant call out what we dont like coming from our favorite producers?
Just because I love Mario Galaxy and would be giddy to meet Miyamoto doesn't mean I cant hate on 3D World (..for now)
flatearthpandas
Member
Exactly.
Most people here don't really believe that MS executives were looking at their Twitters and considering changing policies because people were angry. The whole thing was a success for the community, however, because the message got across, not just to Microsoft, but to the general public. Preorders were down because people were informed by an angry public what the Xbone was trying to do. Or maybe preorders were low because enough of the public understood what they were trying to do to choose not to order it on their own. Or maybe because of media (not the gaming media per se, some of whom are still a bit butthurt about the reversal).
Whatever the actual reason, consumers rejected the console and Microsoft listened. That is something to celebrate. Even if you didn't tweet, didn't facebook, didn't even talk about it outside of Gaf. If you also didn't preorder the fucking thing, you can celebrate and give yourself a pat on the back for contributing to the corporation listening to the consumers. Good job.
Who cares? In every video including the first two rants he states that he has been a lifelong xbox customer (even a Beta tester). He states in the video that he likes the direction Sony is moving in. I know this is hard to believe but boogie said he'd probably be buying one as well...and this was before the whole reversal thing.
FlashbladeGAF
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these are quick (well planned) rants
check out his reviews for a better since of how he presents himself
mysteriousmage09
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Good vid. I'm glad that he states that he's not just turning his back on Sony and forgiving MS fully just like that.
WetPotatoBread
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Oh god not another one.