that depends, since we dont know if the first "o" is a short or long vowel.
Same goes for the rest of it.
I will give it a try though
'tʊ.məks.esæt.naf.
its kind of hard to guess, since we dont know where the main stress in the name lies.
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that depends, since we dont know if the first "o" is a short or long vowel.
Same goes for the rest of it.
I will give it a try though
'tʊ.məks.esæt.naf.
its kind of hard to guess, since we dont know where the main stress in the name lies.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Tom AKA Sat Nav
As in TomTom
The sat nav
As in TomTom
The sat nav
I meant much use in terms of applying my power role but whatever
I always find those posting lots more suspicious, so as Mafia I'm normally keeping those guys in to deflect.
I also like whoever it was who worked out how to say my name properly earlier in the thread.
I find people who rarely post to be somewhat suspicious, I don't generally get a read from people posting a lot, rather I get my reads from what they have to say when they post. Ouro might have posted some but he was always repeating past information, saying "i don't know what to do" or writing posts with no information in them at all, only tangentially related to the subject.
Anyone who found haly to be suspicious is pretty suspicious to me, he was top town. He posted good logic and good reads and everything he said from the start of the game to the role claim fit together with how a town member would see the game. particularly one who was triggering kalor's light sleeper senses.
Thanks for finally thinkig that highly
I don't understand. Are you trying to get yourself evicted? make yourself look as scummy as possible?
It sounded to me like he was implying that all the people who want him evicted (myself included) are HHA trying to get rid of him? or something.
I find it even more suspicious that he's bringing up his whole coffee based character flavour again, only after I mentioned it a page or two back.
Well I thought you would like it. Guess not.
And no, I am not trying to get myself evicted since only a handful of players think that I am hha atm.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Toma Kasatnav, duh
you clearly cant take a joke mate, relax and have fun with the game buddy
in the 2nd post i wanted to know what they are thinking since the game has become a little stale.
The entire reason I mentioned your flavour posts is that someone mentioned that a few players (myself included) gave clues on the first day regarding what their role is through flavour text.
And obviously we now know that Town have generic roles and Mafia are Animal Crossing characters. The fact that you identified as an animal crossing character makes you seem like HHA, looking back.
And that's not even taking into the account the last minute vote switching and other strange things you've done.
I mean when you say HHA wants to put me to sleep the only people who have expressed their suspicions of you have been myself and Razmos, you're really going to sit there and call me HHA with a straight face?
OK sorry you are right I did that while laughing because I knew you would blow up😄
Listen guy, this is no time for jokes, we're playing a GAME here, don't you get it!!!?
Okay, I went back and looked at the majority of confirmed HHA member Ourobolos posts up to when things got nuts on the day he was voted out. Heres the things that stood out as potentially helpful to figuring out associations. The links will be to the individual posts, but you can see the context by clicking the thread title at the top of the page on the single post view. Linking to whole pages doesnt really work because some of you might be weirdo 100 post per page people.
Wasn't entirely thorough and might go look at the rest of his eviction day posts later.
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Lends support to evicting Darryl on day 1 for being inactive: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=163856716&postcount=166
Started the vote on Freakzilla, the eventual evictee for that day. (One player had voted and then unvoted for Freakzilla earlier.) This take the heat off of Nin who had had the majority of votes up till then: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=165404261&postcount=893 After this there is a really quick flurry of votes taking things from Nin -> Freak leading, from RobotNinjaHornets, Salvapot, Razmos, Nin himself and EzekielRage.
Explanation of voting the first three days: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166150621&postcount=1165 Admits he led the vote on Freakzilla. Doesnt give a good reason to do that instead of Nin. Mostly just I wasnt convinced Nin was HHA
Doesnt want to vote off Lunatic, who was in that rotating idle spot that Squidy got placed into: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166335888&postcount=1287
Nice big ranked list of suspicion: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1044457&page=27 Thinks Darryl is the most suspicious, followed by Nin, Salvapot, Hobohodo, EzekielRage, myself, and Razmos. This list excluded some players because it was based off some Launchpad thing.
Reiterates Darryl being suspicious: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166382492&postcount=1374
Believes Tomas roleclaim, says Darryl and Salvapot are suspicious: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166412039&postcount=1421 A few posts later votes for Salva, supposedly as the result of a coin flip, but probably actually to try and make Hobohodo survive the vote since they were the other candidate.
Votes for Hobohodo: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166857487&postcount=1602 Note, this came before Franconps reveal of the investigation results. This suggests that the plan of Throw Hobo under the bus was in the cards of a confirmed HHA member. So it is possible Franconp was operating on that same plan.
Everything hereafter is where his name was seriously on the chopping block, so keep that in mind.
Says Timeaisis and Razmos are at the top of his suspicious list: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167545509&postcount=1794 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167545701&postcount=1795
Doesnt think me OR Fran is Mafia: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167551265&postcount=1828
Is confident that Franconp, Nin1000 and RNH are town: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167555437&postcount=1851
Then things get pretty nuts and a ton of flip flopping as to who is town and who isnt. Squidy covered this a bunch in various posts. There was a pretty big back and forth between the two of them.
Heres another list of suspicions post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=167569353#post167569353
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No obvious smoking guns, but my takeaways are:
- said Darryl was suspicious a lot, but Ouro never actually voted for Darryl or tries to do anything to get rid of him. Kind of feels like a manufactured rivalry.
- Getting Nin out of trouble by starting up the vote for Freak. Later on starts to inch Nin back up the suspicion ladder
- Throwing Hobohodo under the bus was the HHA plan.
Wasn't entirely thorough and might go look at the rest of his eviction day posts later.
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Lends support to evicting Darryl on day 1 for being inactive: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=163856716&postcount=166
Started the vote on Freakzilla, the eventual evictee for that day. (One player had voted and then unvoted for Freakzilla earlier.) This take the heat off of Nin who had had the majority of votes up till then: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=165404261&postcount=893 After this there is a really quick flurry of votes taking things from Nin -> Freak leading, from RobotNinjaHornets, Salvapot, Razmos, Nin himself and EzekielRage.
Explanation of voting the first three days: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166150621&postcount=1165 Admits he led the vote on Freakzilla. Doesnt give a good reason to do that instead of Nin. Mostly just I wasnt convinced Nin was HHA
Doesnt want to vote off Lunatic, who was in that rotating idle spot that Squidy got placed into: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166335888&postcount=1287
Nice big ranked list of suspicion: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1044457&page=27 Thinks Darryl is the most suspicious, followed by Nin, Salvapot, Hobohodo, EzekielRage, myself, and Razmos. This list excluded some players because it was based off some Launchpad thing.
Reiterates Darryl being suspicious: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166382492&postcount=1374
Believes Tomas roleclaim, says Darryl and Salvapot are suspicious: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166412039&postcount=1421 A few posts later votes for Salva, supposedly as the result of a coin flip, but probably actually to try and make Hobohodo survive the vote since they were the other candidate.
Votes for Hobohodo: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166857487&postcount=1602 Note, this came before Franconps reveal of the investigation results. This suggests that the plan of Throw Hobo under the bus was in the cards of a confirmed HHA member. So it is possible Franconp was operating on that same plan.
Everything hereafter is where his name was seriously on the chopping block, so keep that in mind.
Says Timeaisis and Razmos are at the top of his suspicious list: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167545509&postcount=1794 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167545701&postcount=1795
Doesnt think me OR Fran is Mafia: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167551265&postcount=1828
Is confident that Franconp, Nin1000 and RNH are town: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167555437&postcount=1851
Then things get pretty nuts and a ton of flip flopping as to who is town and who isnt. Squidy covered this a bunch in various posts. There was a pretty big back and forth between the two of them.
Heres another list of suspicions post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=167569353#post167569353
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No obvious smoking guns, but my takeaways are:
- said Darryl was suspicious a lot, but Ouro never actually voted for Darryl or tries to do anything to get rid of him. Kind of feels like a manufactured rivalry.
- Getting Nin out of trouble by starting up the vote for Freak. Later on starts to inch Nin back up the suspicion ladder
- Throwing Hobohodo under the bus was the HHA plan.
that video was posted by a user called al capone, therefore you must be mafia.
I'm the only one who thinks that it's pretty obvious that Ultron is the other nephew? I mean, he has the exact opposite role of Hobohodo and we know he has a brother. Ultron's role and the time he used his power should be mayor evidence of him being HHA.
Does anyone believe that Kark would put 2 HHA in the same spot? In the most controversial spot in the game? That doesn't make sense, half the team would be lost in just one turn. It would be a mayor design error from Kark.
I also think we should be evicted but not yet. As far as we know there are 2 more HHAs: the lost partner and the other nephew. There may be 1 more or not, I don't think there is. I think we should try to find the lost partner before evicting us. Ultron already used his role so he can't do more damage and we can speed up the search for the lost partner if I'm still in the game.
I think we should evict Nin1000 this turn and see if he is the lost partner as he is the most suspicious player. If he is the lost partner Ultron and me should be evicted the next day phase as it may be the end of the game and our win. Also in the night phase I can investigate one of the four people that still we don't for certain what his role is (Tomakasatnav, EzekelRage, Retrogamer and Darrryl), that's a 25% chance of finding an HHA (50% if there are 3 HHA left). It's the bigger chance to find an HHA that we have.
Does anyone believe that Kark would put 2 HHA in the same spot? In the most controversial spot in the game? That doesn't make sense, half the team would be lost in just one turn. It would be a mayor design error from Kark.
I also think we should be evicted but not yet. As far as we know there are 2 more HHAs: the lost partner and the other nephew. There may be 1 more or not, I don't think there is. I think we should try to find the lost partner before evicting us. Ultron already used his role so he can't do more damage and we can speed up the search for the lost partner if I'm still in the game.
I think we should evict Nin1000 this turn and see if he is the lost partner as he is the most suspicious player. If he is the lost partner Ultron and me should be evicted the next day phase as it may be the end of the game and our win. Also in the night phase I can investigate one of the four people that still we don't for certain what his role is (Tomakasatnav, EzekelRage, Retrogamer and Darrryl), that's a 25% chance of finding an HHA (50% if there are 3 HHA left). It's the bigger chance to find an HHA that we have.
I Fully agree on that part
Naaah not really, i know most of you think that i am HHA or want me just gone, but since we have the discussion about the roomies since day 2, it has been delayed far too long now mate.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
EzekelRAGE
Member
How is that a 25% chance of HHA if it is possible that the lost partner isn't in that group? When did we get confirmation on squid?
If we evict nin today and he's mafia (which he almost certainly is) then
7-2 next day and franconp has another check in a pool of 4 people (Myself, Retro, Tom, Ezekal) and if he checks me then god help us all so lets say he would have 3 realistic targets to check in the night. If there's a mafia amongst them I'd put it on being Retro, then maybe tom, then ezekal last.
So we'd buy ourselves another shot at checking a mafia. or clearing an additional town member.
Considering evicting franconp/ultron on that day we'd go to
4-2 with 3 confirmed town, if for some reason mafia weren't able to kill the next night that would be an automatic win for us, we could mislynch to 3-2 then 2-1 and 2-0 we win.
5-1 with 3 confirmed town, lol ez game ez life.
5-1 with no real information.
The problem arises from if nin is town (highly unlikely) then we drop to 6-3 next day and if the first scenario occurs (both franconp and ultron are town) we lose the game.
So if we lynch nin first then we afford franconp a chance to find another mafia, If he doesn't find another mafia then we're back in the same situation tomorrow.
7-2 next day and franconp has another check in a pool of 4 people (Myself, Retro, Tom, Ezekal) and if he checks me then god help us all so lets say he would have 3 realistic targets to check in the night. If there's a mafia amongst them I'd put it on being Retro, then maybe tom, then ezekal last.
So we'd buy ourselves another shot at checking a mafia. or clearing an additional town member.
Considering evicting franconp/ultron on that day we'd go to
4-2 with 3 confirmed town, if for some reason mafia weren't able to kill the next night that would be an automatic win for us, we could mislynch to 3-2 then 2-1 and 2-0 we win.
5-1 with 3 confirmed town, lol ez game ez life.
5-1 with no real information.
The problem arises from if nin is town (highly unlikely) then we drop to 6-3 next day and if the first scenario occurs (both franconp and ultron are town) we lose the game.
So if we lynch nin first then we afford franconp a chance to find another mafia, If he doesn't find another mafia then we're back in the same situation tomorrow.
No, I've been pretty clear that I think this as well.
Nope. I think Kark has actually been really, incredibly clever, and if this is right, I will stand up and applaud him. Putting the Town Investigator and an HHA in the same house is an incredibly smart design. On Day one, everyone expected the roomies to be gone immediately. But the HHA couldn't, because then they would lose one of their own. And once Francorp claimed, the Town didn't want to evict the roomies and risk losing the investigator. Both sides were protected by the other.
If this is correct, really, really well played, Kark.
I don't have confirmation, but he was right with Ourobolus so I'm inclined to think he is town.
I'm not upset or anything, but I'm curious why I'm on top of that list.
mate you will eat your shit the moment you find out that i am indeed a town member
a little hin. i am indeed town
Thats where the problem now lies. Now that a certain amount of player think that i am HHA and francorp wants to save his sorry ass he is now trying to press an eviction. The thing is that i believe that squid is just too deep into his own ass that he cant think clear enough and could never in the sven hells admit that i could be indeed town.
its ok though
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
HEY WOAH, we are running a wholesome game here people!
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Minds will be blown
Is that a pun? u gettin cheeky wit me m8?
Too deep into his own ass? maybe if you weren't purposefully making yourself as suspicious as possible people wouldn't think you were mafia, amazing how that works.Thats where the problem now lies. Now that a certain amount of player think that i am HHA and francorp wants to save his sorry ass he is now trying to press an eviction. The thing is that i believe that squid is just too deep into his own ass that he cant think clear enough and could never in the sven hells admit that i could be indeed town.
its ok though
You are either mafia or a very, very bad town player. The last person I had those doubts about was Ourobolus, and he ended up being the former.
I'm more than happy to evict you either way, since either way you are getting in the way of the Town.
true that, i am truly sorry about that and well, i dont know really how to better things.
For once i could shut up
and razmos , mate you are not really helpful either tbh so i would rank you on neutral. not really helpful but not harming anyonemate you will eat your shit the moment you find out that i am indeed a town member
a little hin. i am indeed town
Thats where the problem now lies. Now that a certain amount of player think that i am HHA and francorp wants to save his sorry ass he is now trying to press an eviction. The thing is that i believe that squid is just too deep into his own ass that he cant think clear enough and could never in the sven hells admit that i could be indeed town.
its ok though
if you want me to think you're town you need to do townie things. Instead you're doing mafia things so I think you're mafia.
I couldn't really follow the logic of the reads you gave given the current game. Tom's claimed a role and we have confirmed his ability, with the role he claimed I doubt he's mafia. Ezekal has contributed some decent logic and sure seems serious about scum hunting so I put him above you.
I still don't understand this. can you explain please, launchpadmccasper?
we had kind of a unspoken thing going on, where I complained a lot about how the top posters like mccrunch and ouro essentially getting away with murder with their rambling that was leading us no where. i wanted both of those guys gone, asap. so i don't think the two of them liked me either.
All right, I'm hoping this helps. (Because I just spent an hour on it when I should have been doing homework.) I made a timeline of the votes over the last in-game day.
The columns are sorted by who ended the day with the most votes. Green squares are either new votes, or votes that came after an unvote. Red squares are straight unvotes. Yellow squares are voting changes. In this case, the old vote is struck through, and the new vote is normal.
My assessment:
Ultron saved his vote until the last twenty minutes, then voted for Kingkitty.
Nin1000, did a fair amount of swapping around, though to me it read as him being unsure more than any devious design. He was told by Ezekal at the last minute to vote for Kingkitty, and so he did. Suspicious? Sure. But it could also be explainable.
And yes, Ouro was clearly waiting for the last second to change his vote.
this was a nice graph. thanks for this. looking at it, it appears franconp, nin, and toma were critical for setting up the potential for the near 3-way tie
ezekel also began the entire thing to start with, alongside his fluffed out topic-changing arguments that were hardly grounded in anything substantial. he managed to bait KK into arguing back, creating post after post of wasted space. to top this off, he initially early bandwagoned voted for ouro. that's a great spot to take to cover yourself, having knowledge that ouro was in fact HHA.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Just Jimming out
Yeah, I had missed Toma's role info when I put him under suspicion. I've since seen the error of my ways.
Hopefully I can allay any concerns that you have about me. A couple of people have listed me as being in a grey area, so I want to try to clear things up.
My role is confirmed, but I'll admit that Gossip could be a role that is either Town or HHA. I don't think even Francorp could confirm that I'm town. The only other thing I can point to is that I voted early for Ouro, and I hung on to that, because I was sure he was HHA. If I'd been HHA, I would probably have tried to move suspicion away from him, or make a last-second save.
These numbers are precisely why the scenario where you're the town investigator, I'm HHA, and we're still alive is completely preposterous.
What are you trying to say ? that it is almost unbelievable that you are still alive ?
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