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Anime Mafia |OT| My Little Scum can't be this cute! ()

DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

squidyj (2)
cabot 116 146
SkyOdin 131
30yearsofhurt 251

cabot (1)
Palmer_v1 274

rac (1)
Swamped 204
30yearsofhurt 220 251

Poltergust (1)
squidyj 289

Haly (1)
cabot 146

No Lynch (1)
Poltergust 119

No active vote for Day 1: BlackBuzzard, Bowlie, Cewyn, Dusk Soldier, Haly, hatmoza, hey_monkey, Kyanrute, Nomadic Sparks, oreomunsta, rac, StanleyPalmtree, TheExodu5, ultron87, WhereAreMahDragonz, Zubz

Day 1 Postcount: 30yearsofhurt 9, BlackBuzzard 1, Bowlie 4, cabot 12, Cewyn 1, Dusk Soldier 2, Haly 10, hatmoza 0, hey_monkey 17, Kyanrute 0, Nomadic Sparks 1, oreomunsta 11, Palmer_v1 6, Poltergust 19, rac 6, SkyOdin 19, squidyj 20, StanleyPalmtree 2, Swamped 3, TheExodu5 1, ultron87 2, WhereAreMahDragonz 30, Zubz 5


Day 1 ends:
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12 votes for majority
 
slow night i guess.

well since its come up several times already,
i find that many players here are really overstating the uselessness of a Day 1 lynch, especially in the likely hood of that lynch actually hitting scum.
Many seem to be saying that lynching scum on day one is a near impossibility, but Scum have been lynched on the first day in many previous Gafia games.
It is completely possible for a scum player to mess up and out themselves, there is nothing special about Day 1 that stops scum from being at risk of a lynch, hell the biggest detractor of that happening is town not actively looking to lynch them.
 

cabot

Member
Good morning.

VOTE: rac

This answer to cabot's question feels too friendly to me, like he's trying to diffuse tension. Scum wants people to like them, and to not feel threatened by them.

I know i have a policy on not lynching or killing newbies on D1/N1, but there are too many in this game lol.

This Theresa May-esque U-turn is quite strange, Swamped. I didn't read anything from the response, it seemed just a brush off which makes sense for someone who hasn't played before and hasn't played with me before. I got nothing on rac.

Oh, and I want to bring up something: Is there any reason for the baddies to not target squidyj at this point, assuming he's town?

If no one else claims a special role by the end of the day phase then he put a self-imposed target on his back.

Love Boat had someone claim cop within 6 minutes, turned out to be ordinary town. squidy is baiting for reactions if it wasn't made obvious by now (hint: it should have been).

In answer to your question, claiming cop has already shown to pick up on a few people's radar as scummy/fishy behaviour, so scum would keep him alive as a valid lynch target if they didn't believe his claim. There's also a protection role thats likely this early on.

Why even bring this up? Do you have something you'd like to share with the class, Poltergust-kun? Seems like a very obvious and weird question, is all.

(゚ー゚;

Yo Dragonz never stop someone from asking questions. How can we read them if you shut em down?

Drink more.

Polter's new, he's just figuring out the online game. Cut him some slack.

Seems rather protective, newbies should get a little grace, but it should be implied not actively calling out people.



It's just about impossible to tell what's going on until investigators, etc. use their powers. Votes right now are just going to be based off gut feeling based on things such as past behavior in previous games, relationships with players or crappy anime faces.

Bad mentality, vanilla mafia games are a thing. We need to rely less on power roles. The devil is in the detail, not the night phase.

I lean scum on Squidyj for now. I have no idea about the normalcy of this game, but my immediate, and admittedly convoluted thought, is that he's a scum or maybe neutral or even misguided townie, trying to bait people into targeting him so he can trigger something.

Something something occam's razor though.

It's not enough to get worked up over for now.

I lean town from my previously mentioned Love Boat incident, though I'm not really sure what benefit a scum has to do this at this point? Even a day ability, it seems a little crazy to do it on Day 1.

Not too sure what to think about this

I could totally see Dragonz being scum but I have no logical or reasonable proof of it

Hi!

Please elaborate, I don't get particularly strong scum vibes and I want to know your thinking.
 

cabot

Member
Bowlie going a bit hard on Poltergust this early is interesting. Read it as Town from Bowlie, and nothing from Poltergust.

I like Zubz, he came in with his balls in his mouth and his Mafia facemask on, cutting through the relatively high levels of crud and tried to start solving. I endorse this behaviour.


The whole session of fluff that happened overnight was pretty smelly, need to take a look at the culprits. I remember Dragonz and one of the nubs being in there.

Not into Haly so far, wouldn't date. Gotta keep things moving at this stage though.

VOTE: Dusk Solder

You told people not to discuss something and not much else, anything to add?
 

cabot

Member
im not late, you all just started playing too early!

i for one quite like squidys cop claim.
i dont for a second think that it is true, but it sure got a lot of discussion going, (particularly from many of our newer players, which is nice since getting a sense of who they are and how they play is a big help) and i think thats probably exactly what squidy was going for. a pretty good way to start off a Day 1.

honestly i think im coming away with a town lean on squidy, and thats not something that happens often.

Comments on the big thing of the game so far, and offers logical thought behind his read from it.

Ged out of here Mr old-and-busted.
v2 is here to stay

Sick palmer burn.

slow night i guess.

well since its come up several times already,
i find that many players here are really overstating the uselessness of a Day 1 lynch, especially in the likely hood of that lynch actually hitting scum.
Many seem to be saying that lynching scum on day one is a near impossibility, but Scum have been lynched on the first day in many previous Gafia games.
It is completely possible for a scum player to mess up and out themselves, there is nothing special about Day 1 that stops scum from being at risk of a lynch, hell the biggest detractor of that happening is town not actively looking to lynch them.

Raising a genuinely good point which is against the majority of the grain.


This is about as solid a Stantrance I can remember, probably my strongest town gut read so far.
 

cabot

Member
I'd like hey_monkey to do a bit more digging whence she returneth.

I liked the mentality she portrays in posts made here:

See, this is clearly a shenanigan, but it's such an obvious shenanigan that it can't possibly be fruitful, but it's so clearly a clear and obvious shenanigan that...

Not that I would like to make myself a target but also no need to coddle the newbies because we're newbies. If we get scurrilously voted off d1 because senpai noticed and was mean, we can totally just use that as leverage to get into the next game because everyone feels bad.

I haven't played a lot of variations so I looked at the general mafia wiki to get a general sense and I don't see daytime abilities, really (though they can do what they want; i agree it's a balance issue, however), but there are some that seem imbued with extra knowledge, which could fit in theme. I dunno!

... which means I just posted a lot to say nothing, BASICALLY so uhhhh... I'll be over here.

squidyj is a wild card, out here mixing it up, but reading the layers beyond just chaos isn't going to do much good until we can see what he does next. Let's target some rando who hasn't turned up yet. Smoke 'em out.

I still think you are weirdly suspicious, but sitting back and just waiting has never won town a game of Mafia, can confirm, even if I haven't played here.

There's a positive, proactive mentality I see through these posts which reminds me of the way I like to play, so yeah. I'd like her to offer more things please.


Read back on that fluff exchange, nothing really there. It seemed to be a quiet time with a small group of players.


I did spot this, which I don't like at all:

Woke up check anime Mafia see the first cop claim.

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It's easy to do a reaction to shenanigans. Give us a follow up BB.


meanwhile, in ultron land:

What's this whole peeking thing? Is it a trap to make us fools ask about it?

AHEM

Peeking is a 'sick mafia strat' where everyone gives a peek result which usually is someone calling someone else town.


If everyone does it, it's seen as a way for the cop to post results fairly obviously without being caught out by scum

Basically, it is a strategy where everyone agrees to say that they peeked at another specified player during the night phase. For example, next day phase I would say that I peeked at cabot during the night phase.

The premise is that a real cop would post their actual investigation results in the open under the cover of the peeks, and if the cop gets killed, we can go back and clear people by going over the cop's peeks. Of course, if the cop does find scum, they can role-claim and say so directly.

This plan only works if everyone makes a peek, and everyone agrees to disregard the peeks as meaningless in of themselves.


What, Sky and I's explanations weren't good enough you, red eyed bird?

Games not going particularly fast right now.


Guess it's understandable. It's hard managing a scum chat as well as the game thread, bro.
 

Kyanrute

Member
~kyaaaaa~

1st i'd like to mention that gorlak's read on the events of gafia three are absolutely wrong and totally not anime at all. obviously what transpired was that even after being separated by the monster with a million yosukes, we broke the barrier of separation via the amazing banana what in some ninsensical anime way was a metaphor about our love that transcends even all of space and time. that gave us courage and hugs and warm feelings and then we both won and happily ever after. now that is anime.

and yes cabot i can see you writing that, here, let me do it for you

"pregaming after the game started, cool. have anything relevant to say?"

stole your post nanananaaa
 

Kyanrute

Member
Kyan-kun, where are you? I miss you, mon ami.

(⺣◡⺣)♡*

~kyaaaaa~

23. [m] Kyanrute - GMT+2 - Hello

Hi.

I would really like to hear from Kyan-senpai, my long lost scum teacher. He is a very good player, no matter his alignment. But to be fair, he is more often scum than not.

*blushes*

that's all who were into kyaaa wow. such attention much wow. the dragonz obligatory kyaaa is scum teehee, reaction baiter?

why can't ppl mention me more, the lack of mentions actually forces me to read the thread uuuurgh
 

ultron87

Member
meanwhile, in ultron land:

AHEM

What, Sky and I's explanations weren't good enough you, red eyed bird?

Games not going particularly fast right now.

Guess it's understandable. It's hard managing a scum chat as well as the game thread, bro.

I can't be expected to read posts that aren't direct replies to me! Yeah I was at work and skimmed, sorry!

It is very unlikely to get a lynch to work day 1. Mafia will probably have protection roles. Town investigators may not. I don't know what the roles are like on GAF but from playing on other forums the no vote was invariably the safest way to go on day 1.

Does MafiaGAF do hodors? Last time I played a mafia game scum was given 2 hodors because everyone picked them out on day 2.

If your worry is that scum have roles that will take lynches for them that should only encourage you to start killing faster. A protective role isn't going to just stop working after Day 2, so we'll have to kill our way through it eventually.
 
Squidyj first day cop claim comes off as a weird thing to do and then Dragonz response to it by saying haha its a joke guys i have seen worse claims on day 1, comes off as scummy. She is a a lot more active during this day 1 then the previous game we were in together(Persona Mafia), where she was regular town and i was scum.

My vote right now is based on the change of her behaviour between games and her dismissing Squidyj's role claim as a joke.

VOTE: WhereAreMahDragonz
 

cabot

Member
why do you think it is scummy though.

Is your thinking that squidy isnt scum?


You're scum. squidy isn't. squidy claims cop early, scum you brushes it off and laughs. All the laughs. A thousand laughs!

Why though? if dragonz is scum wouldn't you push for the lynch? save a night kill which may be countered by protection. It's a weird play, could reasonably try to push a lynch. Brushing it off as a joke is just strange to do as scum. If I were scum, I'd either ignore it or react negatively to it.


Dragonz is scum. squidy is also scum. This is slightly more logical, though only just. For instance, why did scum!squidy do this on day 1? It potentially makes him a recurring issue on day discussions, a scum target or a vigi shot target. That's three ways of dying, and then we have the scum buddy brushing it off trying to pretend it was nothing. Scum!squidy flips, Dragonz has massive egg on her face and isn't probably far away from a death herself.


How do you think it goes down?
 
I can't be expected to read posts that aren't direct replies to me! Yeah I was at work and skimmed, sorry!





If your worry is that scum have roles that will take lynches for them that should only encourage you to start killing faster. A protective role isn't going to just stop working after Day 2, so we'll have to kill our way through it eventually.

I'm more concerned about killing townies who need protecting with a completely blind shot in the dark.
 

Swamped

Banned
Gonna start by addressing issues that cropped up yesterday, then will make additional posts about current thoughts on players.

Okay, immediate cop claims are worth an automatic vote, even if made in jest.

Vote: squidyj

Thank squidy newbies, I was about to put pressure on one of you.

thanks i guess, but this seems pretty harsh

how do you read this harsh action? does it make you lean anyway alignment wise?

nah not really, just laughed when i read squidyj's post

I got the read that Rac was just playing along. Then again, you & I both know how bad I am at reading people.

if i was scum i probably wouldn't stick my neck out D1 to try and diffuse tension when less then a quarter of the players have even posted

Good morning.
This Theresa May-esque U-turn is quite strange, Swamped. I didn't read anything from the response, it seemed just a brush off which makes sense for someone who hasn't played before and hasn't played with me before. I got nothing on rac.

According to the list there are 7 new players. That's almost a third of the player list. That's a lot of people to discount right of the bat, but I'll be honest I really hope an oldie gives me a reason to vote for them lol.

I've compiled the posts that rac, SkyOdin and Cabot made about squidy's claim above. Looking through it again, it does seem that I might have overreacted. However I still think it is inconsistent that rac thinking Sky's vote is 'harsh', a pretty strong term, yet have no opinion on Sky's alignment because of that. So maybe Cabot doesn't read anything into it, but I'm making a mental note.

Zubz - clarify what rac was playing along with?

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Not that I would like to make myself a target but also no need to coddle the newbies because we're newbies. If we get scurrilously voted off d1 because senpai noticed and was mean, we can totally just use that as leverage to get into the next game because everyone feels bad.

Nicely said.

I lean scum on Squidyj for now. I have no idea about the normalcy of this game, but my immediate, and admittedly convoluted thought, is that he's a scum or maybe neutral or even misguided townie, trying to bait people into targeting him so he can trigger something.

Something something occam's razor though.

It's not enough to get worked up over for now.

So you lean scum on Squishy, but in your opinion he could be scum, town, or neutral? Also, if you're leaning scum on him why haven't you voted for him? Aren't you the one that always says your vote should reflect your current thoughts on the game? (or maybe that's another veteran player)

Swamped-chan is my waifu and is playing consistently this time as she has every other time. Posts once or twice, then ducks out. From my experience, though, this is not necessarily scum play, as she was town the last time she did this exact thing.
(∩^o^)⊃━☆゚.*・。゚

No, you're my waifu! ♡(.◜ω◝.)♡

You're right though. I usually budget an hour a day or so to reply to posts. But I generally keep up with the thread using my phone throughout the day. So maybe it looks like I'm not posting much, but I'm definitely engaged, and my posts usually come in bursts.

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Also, really enjoying the activity of the new players too, keep it up. Has Hatmoza posted yet?
 

Swamped

Banned
squidyj is a wild card, out here mixing it up, but reading the layers beyond just chaos isn't going to do much good until we can see what he does next. Let's target some rando who hasn't turned up yet. Smoke 'em out.

Who do you want to target? Why so reticent about naming names?
 
I'd like hey_monkey to do a bit more digging whence she returneth.

I liked the mentality she portrays in posts made here:

There's a positive, proactive mentality I see through these posts which reminds me of the way I like to play, so yeah. I'd like her to offer more things please.

oh gosh o(^∀^*)o

ok now i just wait and the mentions will come
Not insight: this made me giggle. Good morning, Gafia.

Squidyj first day cop claim comes off as a weird thing to do and then Dragonz response to it by saying haha its a joke guys i have seen worse claims on day 1, comes off as scummy. She is a a lot more active during this day 1 then the previous game we were in together(Persona Mafia), where she was regular town and i was scum.

My vote right now is based on the change of her behaviour between games and her dismissing Squidyj's role claim as a joke.

I do think this is a good point. I would like her to not be scum, but as of now, I'd say she's high on my suspish list. I'm not ready to vote yet, though. I'm not sure there's yet been enough for me to start accusing. Also because bold accusations like this also make me a little suspicious.



I'm also on ultron's side re: protective roles. Gotta batter through them. But with care. #TownLivesMatterSomeLikeForWinning
 
Who do you want to target? Why so reticent about naming names?

I'm not as bold as some on this because it's my first game. I also didn't want to target someone silent when the game had only been going for a few hours, but by the time I get home today... I'll be ready to start pointing fingers, I expect.
 
Squidyj first day cop claim comes off as a weird thing to do and then Dragonz response to it by saying haha its a joke guys i have seen worse claims on day 1, comes off as scummy. She is a a lot more active during this day 1 then the previous game we were in together(Persona Mafia), where she was regular town and i was scum.

My vote right now is based on the change of her behaviour between games and her dismissing Squidyj's role claim as a joke.

VOTE: WhereAreMahDragonz

How the hell is being more active a scumtell? Lmao

◔_◔
 
I am gonna say, as I'm fresh with morning insight, that about 80% of the things people marked as weird were me trying to... not roleplay my assigned character, but speak with the flavor of, I guess (which sounds nicer than half-assing), so I'm gonna go ahead and not do that anymore.

The rest is just newb-caution. I own that; it can come off as weird.
 
I'm more concerned about killing townies who need protecting with a completely blind shot in the dark.

see the thing with this is that if we all keep talking arguing acusing insulting and everythingelse that makes up this lovely game of mafia, it wont really be a shot in the dark, we will all have our opinions suspicions thearies and general reads to inform our voting, and we are never likely to have much more than that on any given day.

Success in mafia is measured in dead scum, not living townies.
 
why do you think it is scummy though.

Is your thinking that squidy isnt scum?


You're scum. squidy isn't. squidy claims cop early, scum you brushes it off and laughs. All the laughs. A thousand laughs!

Why though? if dragonz is scum wouldn't you push for the lynch? save a night kill which may be countered by protection. It's a weird play, could reasonably try to push a lynch. Brushing it off as a joke is just strange to do as scum. If I were scum, I'd either ignore it or react negatively to it.


Dragonz is scum. squidy is also scum. This is slightly more logical, though only just. For instance, why did scum!squidy do this on day 1? It potentially makes him a recurring issue on day discussions, a scum target or a vigi shot target. That's three ways of dying, and then we have the scum buddy brushing it off trying to pretend it was nothing. Scum!squidy flips, Dragonz has massive egg on her face and isn't probably far away from a death herself.


How do you think it goes down?

I think both Squidyj and Dragonz are scum. Squidyj makes the mistake of fake claiming cop as a joke puts suspicions on himself goes all tsun tsun over it. Dragonz comes in haha its a joke guys(move along nothing to see here) then posts a lot of fluff and says we should have patience.

You say if Squidyj gets outed as scum then Dragonz would be next. I think you underestimate towns ability to make dumb choices. Dragonz just has to go oh jeez i rly didn't think Squidyj-kun was actual scum, boy i read that completely wrong im such a baka teehee. Its what i did last game and i survived all the lynch attempts even going against somebody who should have already been cleared of suspicions.

Im not saying this will happen but it would not be the first time town goes against logic.
 

cabot

Member
I think both Squidyj and Dragonz are scum. Squidyj makes the mistake of fake claiming cop as a joke puts suspicions on himself goes all tsun tsun over it. Dragonz comes in haha its a joke guys(move along nothing to see here) then posts a lot of fluff and says we should have patience.

You say if Squidyj gets outed as scum then Dragonz would be next. I think you underestimate towns ability to make dumb choices. Dragonz just has to go oh jeez i rly didn't think Squidyj-kun was actual scum, boy i read that completely wrong im such a baka teehee. Its what i did last game and i survived all the lynch attempts even going against somebody who should have already been cleared of suspicions.

Im not saying this will happen but it would not be the first time town goes against logic.

This is the bit I don't buy. Don't see squidy doing this.
 

cabot

Member
I've played with him quite a few times, and he's very forthright and will make a fakeclaim when he's certain of something (If memory serves, he may have been the first to pull the fake cop gambit in Archer) . While I could see him making a mistake, I don't see him kind of flailing around afterwards being all weird and nervous.


(that's what tsun tsun means right?)
 

ultron87

Member
Seems like we should just wait on Squidy.

He'll either die overnight or he will have results tomorrow that we can then look at and use to judge.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
As with all other day 1's, I struggle to form a solid opinion on anyone. Just a lot of hand waving and feigned activity. Very little substance.

Might as well go for gut feel.

vote: hey_monkey

I feel like the post was just a little too helpful and self sacrificing.
 
I've played with him quite a few times, and he's very forthright and will make a fakeclaim when he's certain of something (If memory serves, he may have been the first to pull the fake cop gambit in Archer) . While I could see him making a mistake, I don't see him kind of flailing around afterwards being all weird and nervous.


(that's what tsun tsun means right?)

More like acting pissy because people voted on you and being passive aggressive and snarky.
 

cabot

Member
More like acting pissy because people voted on you and being passive aggressive and snarky.

oh right, well uh.....


maybe he'll play differently this time...

;)

As with all other day 1's, I struggle to form a solid opinion on anyone. Just a lot of hand waving and feigned activity. Very little substance.

Might as well go for gut feel.

vote: hey_monkey

I feel like the post was just a little too helpful and self sacrificing.

the post?
 
Seems like we should just wait on Squidy.

He'll either die overnight or he will have results tomorrow that we can then look at and use to judge.

Or this is one big joke on his part and he wastes everyone's time. >_>

I'm not sure what to make of him, really. He's the closest thing we have to a lead in this game so far, though, so we might as well run with it and see how night plays out, along with the next day phase. Lynching him now would put us right back into square 1 unless something else happens today.
 
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