Cerebral Palsy
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fortified_concept said:
Uh, who says the tvs have to be in the same room? It's wireless.
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Uh, who says the tvs have to be in the same room? It's wireless.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
When Iwata said that it will be something 'akin to the DS' and everyone cried 'touch screens' and then the touch screen was denied... maybe the feature akin to the DS was the mutliple screen aspect, and wireless functionality?
Hey, makes sense to me.
I think it sounds cool, new, and refreshing. I have a computer monitor a foot from my TV, and a TV in 4 other rooms. Go for it, it's revoltionary to me.
Hey, makes sense to me.
I think it sounds cool, new, and refreshing. I have a computer monitor a foot from my TV, and a TV in 4 other rooms. Go for it, it's revoltionary to me.
imastalker co.
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i have a couple friends that have computer monitors side by side. dual monitors is pretty damn sweet on a computer actually.Bacon said:
in any case, i think you guys are looking at this the wrong way. don't look at this as "who the fuck has multiple displays in the same room?" but, how can this expand gaming.
im sure there are ways.
Cerebral Palsy
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Bacon said:
Multiplayer. No more split screen. In sports titles the other people wouldn't be able to see the plays you pick etc. I think it would be an awesome feature. I'd take my Revolution everywhere I went if it had this feature.
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Deleted member 1235
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to anyone that played halo 1, it required multiple xboxs, multiple copies of the game and multiple tvs. still was very doable and fun, is this technology going to be implemented in the sense that you have 1 copy of smash bros, 4 tvs and controllers and you can all have your own tv?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Bacon said:
I think, on a world-wide basis, more people have mutliple tvs/computer monitors, than broadband.....
Going for the largest market share, "ages 9 to 95....."
OG_Original Gamer
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Drinky Crow is scaring the shit out of me(having flashbacks of THURSDAYTON).
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now, instead of four gba's and four link cables you'll need four tv's to play final fantasy on the revolution. :lol
seriously though, i'm sure nintendo has some kind of idea for this if they're implementing it into the console. on the other hand, it doesn't seem like they really had a killer idea for an app that led to the creation of the ds... who knows. either way, i'm sure i'll buy a revolution, so it doesn't really matter to me.
there are some promising uses for this, but that doesn't mean we'll see them. hell, people gave all kinds of great ideas for the ds right here on this forum and we haven't seen anything along those lines yet...
seriously though, i'm sure nintendo has some kind of idea for this if they're implementing it into the console. on the other hand, it doesn't seem like they really had a killer idea for an app that led to the creation of the ds... who knows. either way, i'm sure i'll buy a revolution, so it doesn't really matter to me.
there are some promising uses for this, but that doesn't mean we'll see them. hell, people gave all kinds of great ideas for the ds right here on this forum and we haven't seen anything along those lines yet...
Johnny Nighttrain said:
Developers barely find useful ways of using the second DS screen; I find it hard to believe they'll fully utilize a feature that few customers will end up setting up in that manner.
[EDIT: dual-screen setups can be useful, but mostly when the computer is being used as a productivity machine; dual-screen gaming setups are rare/underutilized]
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personally I hope they throw a ton of gimmicky shit in there I will never use. online, downloadable retro games and nintendos games have already sold me, they won't be dumb enough to make the graphics really shit compared to the other 2, its sounding pretty good. Anything extra = bonus.
Drinky Crow
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I dunno; maybe Nintendo's decided that single player content isn't going to be nearly as big in their future. After all, when it comes to "simpler is better" as a motto, it's much more applicable to multi-player and family games then single-player content.
Cerebral Palsy
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Bacon said:
Uh, what if I have a couple of friends over and don't want to play online? I've always hated split screen gaming.
imastalker co.
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that's subjective.Bacon said:
i'll tell you this much. if you want new things out of gaming, you're not going to find them by going to the current source, but by finding new ways.
ProgramFighter
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I think it's a good option and hope it's included as long as it can be implemented in a simple and not overly expensive way. I'm pretty sure the option of split screen will be available for those who feel they need to go that way, but, personally, this setup would be perfect for me. I just hope it works good if this comes into fruition. Nintendo really has me excited about the Revolution and I've never really been big on their systems outside of portables and the NES.
Drinky Crow
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So do any rumors specify whether it requires additional hardware for the TV, or does it broadcast on an available TV wavelength/channel? I'm guessing the former.
Theres no way Nintendo will push this as a part of their revolution. Its against their entire ethos, not to mention arrogant to assume all people will have multiple TVs and would like to tie them up for gaming purposes. That would so not happen in 99% of households.
As for expanding gameplay, same rules apply. Multiple TVs would not work in terms of feasibility, plus its not a massive change is it, it'd still be the same relationship between tv and player. This might be something MS or Sony push as revolutionary, but not Nintendo.
Nintendo are looking to change the way gamers, controllers and TV/displays interact, just like they have with the DS. What'd make more sense if there was a second screen used on the controller, offering Four Swords style possibilities.
Or as I read on some blog, a little LCD screen which allows interaction with the TV. Read on link. Probably a fake, but the best I've heard yet. Unfortunately it was slightly ruined when he said the LCD was displaying a holographic ball...
Source
http://revolutionrumors.blogspot.com/
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As for expanding gameplay, same rules apply. Multiple TVs would not work in terms of feasibility, plus its not a massive change is it, it'd still be the same relationship between tv and player. This might be something MS or Sony push as revolutionary, but not Nintendo.
Nintendo are looking to change the way gamers, controllers and TV/displays interact, just like they have with the DS. What'd make more sense if there was a second screen used on the controller, offering Four Swords style possibilities.
Or as I read on some blog, a little LCD screen which allows interaction with the TV. Read on link. Probably a fake, but the best I've heard yet. Unfortunately it was slightly ruined when he said the LCD was displaying a holographic ball...
Source
http://revolutionrumors.blogspot.com/
Half way down - New Email from the Revolution Engineer
Flakster99
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This is a pretty nifty rumor. I appreciate the ideas that have been discussed thus far. It makes sense to me, as I do enjoy multi player gaming.
It makes anticipating SSMB3 all the more enjoyable.
It makes anticipating SSMB3 all the more enjoyable.
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sp0rsk said:
thats what I thought. all you need is the 1 rev console and however many tvs you want.... If it can do split screen, say 2 on 1 screen and one person has their own tv, combinations like that, not sure why anyone would hate on it.
imastalker co.
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time out. back up. hold it there.Shao said:
who said, or implied that this would be the "revolutionary" feature?
don't see how you're coming to the conclusion that this is the big new feature.
ProgramFighter
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Johnny Nighttrain said:
Was just about to say same thing.
Nintendo "We don't want to support online because not too many people are connected to the internet".
Nintendo "We will be supporting online for everyone with a wireless network"
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Nintendo "We will not be supporting HD since not too many users own HD sets"
Nintendo "We will be supporting multiple televisions for those who own them"
Nintendo "We will be supporting online for everyone with a wireless network"
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Nintendo "We will not be supporting HD since not too many users own HD sets"
Nintendo "We will be supporting multiple televisions for those who own them"
imastalker co.
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but it does go with their mantra of having a system that's easy to take from one room to another. well, in a sense that it saves you the trouble of doing it. but after all, it's this reasoning that ultimately lead to their decision to put a handle on the GameCube.Mrbob said:
Of All Trades
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Unless Nintendo has some sort of super-tech (that's still cheap enough to keep costs down), the Rev would need to expend a good amount of power just to send multiple full-screen signals for next-gen games. It's a nice gimmick, but I would assume that most people would rather play multiscreen multiplayer on multiple consoles to avoid performance hits.catfish said:
koam said:
Nintendo's main goal was to make connecting to the internet EASY without being a techie, not because there weren't enough people on.
koam said:
Anyone who is posting now and has a console already has a TV and a computer monitor, many families will have more than 1 TV or computer, so taking advantage of this idea isn't far fetched at all. There are DEFINITELY more households with multiple screens than HD-enabled tv's.
Of All Trades
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It still needs power (and the TV has to be plugged in somewhere), so it's not really that much more of a conveniance.Johnny Nighttrain said:
I'd also like to know what kind of TV is needed to receive ultra-band or whatever. Anecdotal evidence time: most people I know with multiple TVs have one decent to really good one in the main room, and all the other tvs are usually older/smaller with fewer input jacks (ie composite at the most).
Drinky Crow said:
I'm starting to understand now why Silicon Knights left, if Nintendo really is serious about abandoning single player games (especially story-driven ones) then clearly SK wouldn't be as welcome as they were in the past when Nintendo just wanted second parties to make mature games.
I gotta say though, I'm not gonna be too happy if Nintendo does scale back on single player, I'm already pissed how much single player has already been scaled back in general because of both multiplayer and online.
Of All Trades said:
I don't know about you, but I have power outlets on 3 walls in my room.. Plugging power in wouldn't be hard.
No TV supports ultra-band - what you do it hook a receiver up to the TV.
If this were true - I'd get a 2nd receiver for my PC monitor @ work.. I'll never work again!!
AndoCalrissian
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Johnny Nighttrain said:
Not only that, but it would allow you to play a game on a TV in any room in the vicinity, provided the controller had a power button for the console on it (which it should, why the hell hasn't anyone done this).
And Johnny, you know I've done the research and found out that this is feasible (even found tenuous links to Nintendo and Revolution), and would explain why HD is out, but ah... who knows.
OG_Original Gamer
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This got me thinking about a sleep mode, console would be activated by use of the controller(Similar to how the XBox powers down content downloads or uploading music).
Just had to put my 2 cents in before I shut down to play Halo2(Team Slayer)
Just had to put my 2 cents in before I shut down to play Halo2(Team Slayer)
JoshuaJSlone
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True? *shrugs* But I was a guy who long ago said a gaming accessory company should release an image splitter specifically for the purpose of turning split-screen gaming into multi-screen gaming, so I would certainly not be opposed to this.
Johnny Nighttrain said:
The fact that its being mentioned in the same breathe as "expand gaming" and the whole gist of the thread balances on 2 points
a) is it real?
b) how is it revolutionary? (as all revo threads are)
Not to mention it brings us back to your pre-E3 revelations which were pretty revolutionary. Thats how. Also I don't believe in just one feature - I believe it will be a host host of little things and I don't believe this is one of them. Perhaps there lies the misunderstanding.
Would be a nice feature though, more so for the wireless than multiple TVs. Cable companys are shaking in their boots.
Cerebral Palsy said:
So you're all going to sit in different rooms of a house and play together, or line up a bunch of TVs next to eachother? Sounds like a blast...
Though I must say stackting TVs next to eachother is probably a bigger pain in the ass than split screens.
What exactly does being able to play on different TVs bring to the table...?
It also pisses me off that if this crap is true (which I doubt) you know Nintendo is going to expect people to buy a bunch of lame adapters seperately. I already have to pay for an Ethernet adapter...
Phoenix Dark
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C'mon Bacon, why do you hate Nintendo and America? :lol
This sounds amazing to me. I have four tv's and three computers, so I'd be able to play Mario Kart or Splinter Cell without other players seeing what I'm doing lol. People don't seem to realize that Nintendo will no doubt have this as an optional feature; split screen will be supported for gamers with fewer tv sets.
This sounds amazing to me. I have four tv's and three computers, so I'd be able to play Mario Kart or Splinter Cell without other players seeing what I'm doing lol. People don't seem to realize that Nintendo will no doubt have this as an optional feature; split screen will be supported for gamers with fewer tv sets.
Split screen for households with one TV, online with friends far away, and multi-screens for families playing together in one house and for games that need secrecy. Sounds like Nintendo can cover all the base demographics while providing a new method to play.
ProgramFighter
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Bacon said:
What's so wrong about having an extra option? Nintendo is going online. Rev will also support split screen (It would be dumb not to have that also.). Now it has a third option. Is that so terrible?
This rumor is NOT TRUE.
For a few reasons...
1) Ultra Wide Band does not work like an iTrip over FM spectrum. It requires both items support UWB, kinda like bluetooth. In fact, just think of it as bluetooth with firewire speed.
2) If the idea is that not enough people have HDTVs for it to be worth it, the idea that more than 4 people with have UWB equipped TVs is insane. It wont even launch until the end of the year and there are currently 2 competing standards.
3) It would add a hell of a lot of money to the cost of building the system.
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Not to beat a dead horse, but do you all remember how WRONG Johnny Nighttrain was during e3? Just flat wrong. Now he comes back, someone floats a ludicrious rumor, and you are all waxing philosophical on something that isnt going to happen. You can close the thread, stop the arguments, and write off the bullshit - mark my words, UWB in Rev is NOT happening.
If they figure out a way to transmit 480p over a wireless RF connection to an existing VHF channel, I will be surprised. If they implement UWB into Revolution, I will be absolutely fucking stunned.
For a few reasons...
1) Ultra Wide Band does not work like an iTrip over FM spectrum. It requires both items support UWB, kinda like bluetooth. In fact, just think of it as bluetooth with firewire speed.
2) If the idea is that not enough people have HDTVs for it to be worth it, the idea that more than 4 people with have UWB equipped TVs is insane. It wont even launch until the end of the year and there are currently 2 competing standards.
3) It would add a hell of a lot of money to the cost of building the system.
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Not to beat a dead horse, but do you all remember how WRONG Johnny Nighttrain was during e3? Just flat wrong. Now he comes back, someone floats a ludicrious rumor, and you are all waxing philosophical on something that isnt going to happen. You can close the thread, stop the arguments, and write off the bullshit - mark my words, UWB in Rev is NOT happening.
If they figure out a way to transmit 480p over a wireless RF connection to an existing VHF channel, I will be surprised. If they implement UWB into Revolution, I will be absolutely fucking stunned.
Just a thought but, why would you have to use the multiple screens all at once?
Think about it, Nintendo releases the Wavebird, and everyone's all like "Yay! Now I can play my Cube from the far side of the house! But what's the point?"
What if it's...
*Kid playing game in living room*
*Older brother walks up and says "move it runt"*
*Kid hits 'pause', walks to another room with the Wavebird-2, turns on a TV, switches a dial on the controller to "TV #3", hits 'pause' again, and resumes playing*
Or, if you have a portable TV in your bathroom, now you can play console games while you're on the can.
Think about it, Nintendo releases the Wavebird, and everyone's all like "Yay! Now I can play my Cube from the far side of the house! But what's the point?"
What if it's...
*Kid playing game in living room*
*Older brother walks up and says "move it runt"*
*Kid hits 'pause', walks to another room with the Wavebird-2, turns on a TV, switches a dial on the controller to "TV #3", hits 'pause' again, and resumes playing*
Or, if you have a portable TV in your bathroom, now you can play console games while you're on the can.