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[mr2mike]

"I mean, it definitely aint going to stand on that curved edge,"

As I said, WHAT CURVED EDGE are you talking about?

The side on wich it stands, the one opposite from the HD, IS FLAT, you just dont see it, because the curved faceplate hides it behind it's edge, but the side itself on wich it'll rest, IS FLAT.

 

[Razoric]

Ok seriously what is wrong with Gamespot?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/04/22/news_6122804.html

RUMOR #1: An image of the Xbox 360 has been leaked.

Source: A whole lotta forum posts goin' on.

The official story: "Microsoft does not comment on rumors or speculation"--Microsoft spokesperson.

What we heard: As the week began, a photo began to circulate around the Web which purported to be of the next-generation Xbox. Looking like a game-geek version of the famed Loch Ness Monster photo, the blurry image showed a slim silver-gray console on its side, PlayStation 2-style with a GameCube-like curved handle. It also had a distinct "X" logo on the side with a 360-degree circle at its center. While some dismissed the device as a modded PC case, others felt that they had seen it somewhere before. That's because they had. Last September, an image was reportedly leaked from a Microsoft focus group, one of which was called the "Xbox FS." Since the name rumored to stand for "F*** Sony," many people laughed off the silver-gray image that accompanied it. However, when flipped on its side and put next to this week's photo (pictured), the two are clearly the same machine--a machine very much like one with a "concave center" described in recent reports in the British games press. But perhaps the most convincing proof came in the form of an image from the teaser site Ourcolony.net. The site, which has been linked to Microsoft and has "leaked" images of what appears to be Xbox 360 controllers, released a photo of what looks like a console with the a silver-gray finish and a disc tray in the same place as the concept image and leaked photo. One last bit of circumstantial evidence is that at the new MTV trailer for the Xbox's unveiling ends with the Xbox's new logo--against a gray, not black, background.

Bogus or not bogus?: Given the growing evidence, this is looking pretty Not Bogus. But we won't know for certain until the machine is unveiled May 12 on MTV.

What they actually believe the Xbox 360 will look like:

They actually believe the system will look like that? Seriously are there any GS writers here? Are you all completely insane?

 

[DopeyFish]

Ok seriously what is wrong with Gamespot?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/04/22/news_6122804.html



What they actually believe the Xbox 360 will look like:

They actually believe the system will look like that? Seriously are there any GS writers here? Are you all completely insane?

the image was leaked about the same time this rumor control was posted.

 

[Screenboy]

I think it looks pretty toyish.

 

[DJ_Tet]

One of my friends claims that XBox 360 is gonna launch at $500. He's an XBox fan too, not a Sony bot or whatever. I haven't kept up with it too much, but knowing history, there's no way this thing launches at $500, is there?

I told him I think there will be two packages, one with the xpod hd and one without, selling for $300 and $400, or maybe just the $300 package with the xpod available at launch? What is the current thought on the price of this console?

 

[DopeyFish]

One of my friends claims that XBox 360 is gonna launch at $500. He's an XBox fan too, not a Sony bot or whatever. I haven't kept up with it too much, but knowing history, there's no way this thing launches at $500, is there?

I told him I think there will be two packages, one with the xpod hd and one without, selling for $300 and $400, or maybe just the $300 package with the xpod available at launch? What is the current thought on the price of this console?

kotaku pretty much nailed everything in rumor... one thing they stated was the price would be $299 without the hard drive, $399 with it.

That's just assuming they're COMPLETELY accurate.

 

[Razoric]

kotaku pretty much nailed everything in rumor... one thing they stated was the price would be $299 without the hard drive, $399 with it.

That's just assuming they're COMPLETELY accurate.

So the harddrive version WILL play Xbox games?

 

[DopeyFish]

So the harddrive version WILL play Xbox games?

kotaku rumor said backwards compatibility still isn't likely but they're working on it.

 

[sscrew]

"I mean, it definitely aint going to stand on that curved edge,"

As I said, WHAT CURVED EDGE are you talking about?

The side on wich it stands, the one opposite from the HD, IS FLAT, you just dont see it, because the curved faceplate hides it behind it's edge, but the side itself on wich it'll rest, IS FLAT.

Your the one who cant fucken see it :lol

I wasnt hinting at it not being possible, but as it being an indication that it may not be the real thing. I mean, it definitely aint going to stand on that curved edge, and going of the other picture, it doesnt look like the add-on area is enough to stand it on. And the front weight would cause it to want to lean forward i'd imagine. Opening hte tray would of balance it also. And if the hard drive is their, i wouldnt want it resting on my hard drive. It wouldnt be very good, especially if this design is for the heat conscious people. And laying that thing down horizontally.... im not too sure of that either. It wouldnt have much support when it comes to pressing a button and the console remaining in place. The current Xbox has a nice weight and rubber stoppers so it doesnt bude. The PS2 slides a bit. That would be like it was on ice... no surface area or anything to cause friction, just the rounded edges.

If one end is curved and the other is an expansion bay, where the hell do you sit it for it to be vertical? On the Hard Drive/Empty bay?

The red highlighted are is the surface area... it still leaves a huge gap at the front, which would make it very open to front tilting, open the DVD drive etc. and its just more weight futher out. Im not seeing it wont sit, but thats seriously not a very good option for vertical standing. Such a small base, and if they expect it to be the hard drive itself as the base (or empty expansion slot) than its seriously a fucken flawed design.

The side on wich it stands, the one opposite from the HD, IS FLAT, you just dont see it, because the curved faceplate hides it behind it's edge, but the side itself on wich it'll rest, IS FLAT.

Comprehension mate, try it. I explained it all within my posts and you come back with what curved edge... seriously dude :lol

 

[DJ_Tet]

kotaku pretty much nailed everything in rumor... one thing they stated was the price would be $299 without the hard drive, $399 with it.

That's just assuming they're COMPLETELY accurate.

If that's true, my friend is gonna have to eat shit

 

[fartblast]

the slot on the right of the console looks like it's for the HDD

 

[mr2mike]

Shit dude, you're the one who can't see. The curve you're seeing on the bottom end is not the curvature of the side itself, it's the curvature of the face panel.

If you looked at that side from the opposite direction, like the standing side is seen in all the pics, it'd look curved too



Comprehension? that's nto in question here, what lacks is your spacial perception:

The faceplate at the bottom end of the console is some 27 pixels narrower than at the hard drive end, wich indicates that the [hoto was shot off center of the console, towards the hard drive side. Wich in turn means that that standing side is seen from a sharper angle, further augmenting the impression of curvature given by the convex faceplate

 

[XboxGamers]

fake.

What now?

 

[3rdman]

Your the one who cant fucken see it :lol


If one end is curved and the other is an expansion bay, where the hell do you sit it for it to be vertical? On the Hard Drive/Empty bay?

The red highlighted are is the surface area... it still leaves a huge gap at the front, which would make it very open to front tilting, open the DVD drive etc. and its just more weight futher out. Im not seeing it wont sit, but thats seriously not a very good option for vertical standing. Such a small base, and if they expect it to be the hard drive itself as the base (or empty expansion slot) than its seriously a fucken flawed design.


Comprehension mate, try it. I explained it all within my posts and you come back with what curved edge... seriously dude :lol

You're being rude...not that I'm the etiquette police or anything. But, I disagree with you. You're assuming that the bootom curved piece is curved all the way to the back...which it could be, but if the photo was taken from a slightly overhead shot then you could also conclude that the "curve" can also be a "buldge" making the front bulbous which is how I see it. Also, your fear of the machines instablitiy are unwarrented especially without knowing the layout of its interior...In other words, I'm sure it'll be wieghed down in some way...perhaps the power supply is at the base? Who knows, there may also be a realy simple solution to prevent any tilting...like tabs at the back that flip down to help stability.

 

[Tenacious-V]

Yeah sscrew, it's just perspective dude. It's 100% flat when resting on the side, it's just the angle of the shot that makes it look like it's curved. In reality it's the front panel that's rounded, along with the angle of the shot that gives off the curved look.

And to those people who say the HDD would slide into the silver area, that's not physically possible. If you think it's a slot loading HDD into the silver slot, it would smack itself right into the disc tray. As it is, the HDD lies flat with the bottom of the HDD against the side of the console.

 

[evilromero]

Looks goofy as hell.

 

[Kleegamefan]

It is OBVIOUS that it looks round because of the perspective....

 

[Amir0x]

:lol You realize you're grading it based on having seen only one corner of the ACTUAL box, right?

I realize the reason you, the captain of the XBX Brigade, is responding is because I didn't give it a A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++, but please be aware I'm grading what we have in front of us, which is much more than one corner.

But thanks for playin', man. B-.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

The render makes it look ugly.

 

[PhatSaqs]

I realize the reason you, the captain of the XBX Brigade, is responding is because I didn't give it a A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++, but please be aware I'm grading what we have in front of us, which is much more than one corner.

But thanks for playin', man. B-.

Is there anybody you dont throw e-insults at :lol :lol

 

[COCKLES]

At the end of the day, the reason I couldn't understand original Xbox hate, is because I shove it under the TV and forget about it.

It's the juice inside I care about. Only reason I would give a toss about the size is for it's chances in Japan.

 

[Amir0x]

Is there anybody you dont throw e-insults at :lol :lol

I wasn't really throwing e-insults, but you fail at the internet too I see.

 

[nitewulf]

interestingly enough, i am kinda getting used to it. it might look good lying down. standing up it looks royally ugly, if you're looking from the front. but if it's vertical, on the floor and you can only see the top corner...eh, i dont know, with the grill and everything, sucker isnt bad looking.

 

[DopeyFish]

interestingly enough, i am kinda getting used to it. it might look good lying down. standing up it looks royally ugly, if you're looking from the front. but if it's vertical, on the floor and you can only see the top corner...eh, i dont know, with the grill and everything, sucker isnt bad looking.

don't forget that you're looking at it straight on too, which can really add to the odd look of it.

whoever leaked the pic leaked the wrong one

 

[u_neek]

don't forget that you're looking at it straight on too, which can really add to the odd look of it.

whoever leaked the pic leaked the wrong one

You've seen more?

(leak)

 

[Tenacious-V]

Just been pondering a bit. Maybe the spot next to the memory card slots that everyone says is either a Xbox controller port, or a IR for a remote, could it possibly be a built in camera? MS did say it would have one built in, maybe that's what it is.

 

[Lord Error]

don't forget that you're looking at it straight on too, which can really add to the odd look of it.

When you are sitting in the front of the TV, that's how you are going to look at it (most likely).

I personally can't wait to see what it looks like in person. The impression can change easily for the better or for the worse once you see the build quality, materials used, etc.

Tenacious, putting the camera in teh console is a bad idea, as you pretty much have to have the camera right in front of you every time you want to use it. That does not let you position the console where you'd actually want to have it

 

[----]

That big obnoxious power button is really ugly. Are they intending for that big green circle to be the brand logo for Xbox 360? Unless they put some other brand logo marking on it, that is by default going to become the symbol that immediately identifies the device to people simply because it stands out so much. They need to put some other kind of "Xbox" or "X" marking on it so that the system's brand is easily identifiable. Just like the PS2 has the red "P" and blue/green/yellow "S" logo on it the Xbox 360 needs to have some kind of symbol which easily identifies it's games and it's hardware.

 

[seismologist]

I think what we've seen of new console looks terrible (there I said it).

At the end of the day, the reason I couldn't understand original Xbox hate, is because I shove it under the TV and forget about it..

But yeah I also agree with you here.

 

[Lord Error]

Well, yeah you can shove it under the TV, but isn't it much nicer when it actually looks good enough so that you can put it somewhere exposed so that when you (or someone else) look at it, you (him) can think "ah niiice"


Btw, isn't anyone else a bit surprised that they didn't put a slot loading drive on it? It just seems like an obvious 'next gen' thing to do as far as looks and functionality.

 

[Outdoor Miner]

I think what we've seen of new console looks terrible (there I said it).



But yeah I also agree with you here.

I don't really see what the point of posting for you is. I mean, there's not a soul on this forum who thought you'd be impressed or have anything positive to say about the design of the Xbox 360, or anything related to it for that matter.


Seriously, it's like a foregone conclusion whenever I see "seismologist". I guess that part is convenient, knowing which posts are going to you rolleyes your eyes before reading.

 

[seismologist]

Btw, isn't anyone else a bit surprised that they didn't put a slot loading drive on it? It just seems like an obvious 'next gen' thing to do as far as looks and functionality.

yeah I wouldnt mind having a slot loading 6 dvd changer on it

 

[Gek54]

No console will ever have a changer.

 

[Lord Error]

Well I don't know about the changer :lol That would make it too big.

Btw, if you can officially install the games on the harddisk, like you now can with modded Xbox or hdloader-ed PS2 that will be very neat. I hope all next gen consoles allow that.

 

[Tenacious-V]

I don't really see what the point of posting for you is. I mean, there's not a soul on this forum who thought you'd be impressed or have anything positive to say about the design of the Xbox 360, or anything related to it for that matter.


Seriously, it's like a foregone conclusion whenever I see "seismologist". I guess that part is convenient, knowing which posts are going to you rolleyes your eyes before reading.

That's what the ignore function is my friend. I don't have to witness Gigadent's stupidity ever again.

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

I think what we've seen of new console looks terrible (there I said it).

You? Gigadent? Hate the Xbox 360 design? Impossible!

 

[seanoff]

Not bad but not anything special either. Sorry

just looks a little to try hard to be cool.


I like v simple looking designs, the Ipod, Apples Powerbooks being good examples. Just little touches to basic shapes. I also don't like the fact that it cannot be put in a stack of equipment. A console is just another piece of equipment so the curved top on bottom aren't doing it 4 me.


Just so i don't get bitten, the current generation aren't any great shakes either. The Xbox is appalling, the GC looks like a toy for my 2 yo and the PS2 isn't great either but at least it gives you some choices as far as placement goes.

 

[----]

I'm just curious what exactly are people stacking on top of their PS2's right now? The PS2 is so small it's not like you could stack a Tivo, Cable/Satellite receiver, stereo receiver, DVD player etc. on top of a PS2. And you certainly can stack the Xbox 360 on top of other items just like you could a PS2. Seems like it's just about as versatile as a PS2 is. Unless they make it as big and wide as a DVD player or PVR it's never going to be perfectly stackable anyway, so why complain?

 

[PhatSaqs]

I'm just curious what exactly are people stacking on top of their PS2's right now? The PS2 is so small it's not like you could stack a Tivo, Cable/Satellite receiver, stereo receiver, DVD player etc. on top of a PS2. And you certainly can stack the Xbox 360 on top of other items just like you could a PS2. Seems like it's just about as versatile as a PS2 is. Unless they make it as big and wide as a DVD player or PVR it's never going to be perfectly stackable anyway, so why complain?

Answer this person!

 

[Pedigree Chum]

How can a system try to be cool? It's solid object with no emotion you know.

BTW, I think the system is looking pretty fine. I'm going by the assumption that it'll look less like this:

and more like this

at least as far as the colour and overall look of the system (the overall colour sceme for the second pic is WAY the fuck better). As far as layout goes, I think it's pretty sweet. Bring on 260 I say.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

I love the design, I paid for mine at Gamestop yesterday. I'm gearing up for the HD Era

 

[Sullichin]

Maybe that huge power button also acts as a camera? The ourcolony image a few posts back gave me that idea..

 

[Vormund]

Are they intending for that big green circle to be the brand logo for Xbox 360? Unless they put some other brand logo marking on it, that is by default going to become the symbol that immediately identifies the device to people simply because it stands out so much.[/ QUOTE]

Apparently yeah. It'll be "Xbox" surrounded by a green circle. We'll wait and see though.

 

[sscrew]

If you looked at that side from the opposite direction, like the standing side is seen in all the pics, it'd look curved too

Uh no it wouldnt, because a dead front on Photo is what shows the curve of the other side :lol Like it or not, Front plate or not, that will make standing it on that side impossible without some sort of add-on

The faceplate at the bottom end of the console is some 27 pixels narrower than at the hard drive end, wich indicates that the [hoto was shot off center of the console, towards the hard drive side. Wich in turn means that that standing side is seen from a sharper angle, further augmenting the impression of curvature given by the convex faceplate

Either way, you do realise that the whole point originally was that if that is the base for standing vertically.... you are resting it on your hard drive, which isnt exactly the best option where heats related. And either way, its still got a lot of space which won't be grounded... having the front end of the console with no support under it, is not good design.

What im saying is not opinion but fact. One end is curved. The other is the hard drive bay. Saying its a good idea for either to be the base it stupid. Photo angles or not.... your the one who can't comprehend. I have labeled diagrams front on showing where the curve is, you argue its flat and due to photo angle... when the photo is 100% straight on. The other area i highlight the base which isnt that large.... and more to the point, its a fucken Hard Drive. Im not saying it wont be capable of sitting stable on it (although it wouldnt look stable and IMO wouldnt be very ideal). Im more pointing out all the grounded base is the add-on bay. Which isnt really ideal... unless maybe that add-on bay has an addon of a vertical stand. But then you wouldnt be able to use a hard drive for sitting htem vertically.

 

[sscrew]

I'm just curious what exactly are people stacking on top of their PS2's right now? The PS2 is so small it's not like you could stack a Tivo, Cable/Satellite receiver, stereo receiver, DVD player etc. on top of a PS2. And you certainly can stack the Xbox 360 on top of other items just like you could a PS2. Seems like it's just about as versatile as a PS2 is. Unless they make it as big and wide as a DVD player or PVR it's never going to be perfectly stackable anyway, so why complain?

Dude, dont forget to obvious fact its top loading :lol Right their you cant sit anything ontop of it if you want to be able to insert games

 

[sscrew]

You're being rude...not that I'm the etiquette police or anything. But, I disagree with you. You're assuming that the bootom curved piece is curved all the way to the back...which it could be, but if the photo was taken from a slightly overhead shot then you could also conclude that the "curve" can also be a "buldge" making the front bulbous which is how I see it. Also, your fear of the machines instablitiy are unwarrented especially without knowing the layout of its interior...In other words, I'm sure it'll be wieghed down in some way...perhaps the power supply is at the base? Who knows, there may also be a realy simple solution to prevent any tilting...like tabs at the back that flip down to help stability.

I do realise that it could be waited in one end, on top of stability however, it the fact that it will be sitting on the hard drive bay or expansion bay. ANd even if the end which is curved overhangs, that will still stop the system resting on that side without some form of add-on. It will make it unstable and raise the front. I took in to account it could bulge out, but whatever it is, it causes that base to be a curve.
Its probably going to be possible to sit it on the hard drive. It might even be weighted to sit stable. But the point is your entire system will be based on the hard drive expansion bay. The drives will run hotter, they will also vibrate and the entire system will be overtop of that.

 

[op_ivy]

dude, its flat. flat.

see? coffee mug has a flat base. it appears curved from the viewing angle.

 

[sc0la]

I do realise that it could be waited in one end, on top of stability however, it the fact that it will be sitting on the hard drive bay or expansion bay. ANd even if the end which is curved overhangs, that will still stop the system resting on that side without some form of add-on. It will make it unstable and raise the front. I took in to account it could bulge out, but whatever it is, it causes that base to be a curve.
Its probably going to be possible to sit it on the hard drive. It might even be weighted to sit stable. But the point is your entire system will be based on the hard drive expansion bay. The drives will run hotter, they will also vibrate and the entire system will be overtop of that.

dude the hard drive is on top.

the bottom is flat

and there is not such thing as a "perspective-less" photo

what don't you get?

 

[GhaleonEB]

Holy shit - I just read the last few pages and I can't believe what I'm reading. A whole pack of people trying to teach basic Facts of Living in the Third Dimention to one guy who just does't get it. My fucking two year-old daughter is easier to rationalize with than this! She would get it by now! In fact, I'm pretty sure she does.

I'm speechless.

 

[Vormund]

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