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I own a single-barrel two-shell shotgun. I have never kept ammo in the house at all, since I've only used it for skeet shooting.
We've moved into a slightly rougher neighborhood, and we're not on the second floor anymore (1st floor in a duplex). As such, I'm finally starting to consider the gun as an option for home defense.
We have no kids -- just a roommate and a dog. The dog is a 125-pound Great Pyrnees who would probably end up being our first line of defense, if his incessant and unending barking does not scare away any would-be intruders.
So what do the people here do? Do you keep your gun and ammo separate? Do you keep your gun loaded at all times with the a lock on it? Loaded with merely the safety engaged?
There are locks on every bedroom door, and it's unlikely that someone might come in through my bedroom window given that we have those shitty windows that open slowly outwards with a shitty hand crank. The windows themselves are a 4x4 grid of small panes with a metal frame connecting them all. So even if someone broke one of the panes they couldn't fit through, so they'd have to manually reach in and crank the window open.
I presume it would be safest not to keep the gun loaded, but I can't shake the feeling I'd feel safer to keep at least one shell in the gun with at least the safety on. Obviously I can feed in a shell but, would not cock it to chamber the round.
We've moved into a slightly rougher neighborhood, and we're not on the second floor anymore (1st floor in a duplex). As such, I'm finally starting to consider the gun as an option for home defense.
We have no kids -- just a roommate and a dog. The dog is a 125-pound Great Pyrnees who would probably end up being our first line of defense, if his incessant and unending barking does not scare away any would-be intruders.
So what do the people here do? Do you keep your gun and ammo separate? Do you keep your gun loaded at all times with the a lock on it? Loaded with merely the safety engaged?
There are locks on every bedroom door, and it's unlikely that someone might come in through my bedroom window given that we have those shitty windows that open slowly outwards with a shitty hand crank. The windows themselves are a 4x4 grid of small panes with a metal frame connecting them all. So even if someone broke one of the panes they couldn't fit through, so they'd have to manually reach in and crank the window open.
I presume it would be safest not to keep the gun loaded, but I can't shake the feeling I'd feel safer to keep at least one shell in the gun with at least the safety on. Obviously I can feed in a shell but, would not cock it to chamber the round.
I would keep it loaded but in a safe with a good release mechanism. It will cost, but having an unloaded gun for hd is asking for trouble.
If you are familiar with pump shotguns, get a Mossberg 500 or Rem 870. If you are not, I would probably suggest a semi auto. good ones cost a lot more though.
QualityPixel
Banned
As Dead Man said, Mossburg 500's are really good, and semi-auto shotguns start at around $600 I've found (at least around where I live). But keep in mind shotguns are super loud, and if you fire that thing in an enclosed space you will have permanent hearing damage.
A friend of mine got a new Moss 500 for $315 and it's flippin' sweet.
Man prices in California are so overinflated right now.
Jeez Yugo SKS going for $500? Really?!
Also now a completely AR15 stripped lower costs more than what I bought my complete polymer lower for. I don't know if I should sell mine (which I bought for $120 after taxes and fees) for $300 which somebody is interested in. To finish my AR15 isn't going to be cheap so its just sitting there collecting dust.
Jeez Yugo SKS going for $500? Really?!
Also now a completely AR15 stripped lower costs more than what I bought my complete polymer lower for. I don't know if I should sell mine (which I bought for $120 after taxes and fees) for $300 which somebody is interested in. To finish my AR15 isn't going to be cheap so its just sitting there collecting dust.
QualityPixel
Banned
I love the smell of cosmoline in the morning. Er afternoon.
Yummy!
Lionheart1827
Member
Brought home my 2nd pistol and 5th firearm overall.
Beretta 92A1(based off the FS and 90-Two)
Sorry the lighting aint that great. Now my next step is finding 9mm ammo
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Beretta 92A1(based off the FS and 90-Two)
Sorry the lighting aint that great. Now my next step is finding 9mm ammo
EDIT: resizing the photo
MisterNoisy
Member
Now my next step is finding 9mm ammo
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Nice! Good luck with the ammo thing - the crazy hoarders have cleaned pretty much everywhere out here.
BattleMonkey
Member
Even 9mm is getting hard to find? Haven't bought ammo in a while
It's disappeared since the end of Dec. Luckily I stocked up this summer when you could get 500 rounds for $100. So I'm sitting on about 2k.
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
I love the smell of cosmoline in the morning. Er afternoon.
Mosin-Nagants? Nice. Good rifle. Very reliable.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I think my neighbors are terrified of me now. I got a shipment of P-Mags in that a bunch of guys and I went in on. And I tripped and spilled the box all over the hallway.
50 freaking magazines.
My neighbor helped me pick them up and asked what they were. Then, the fear look on their face.
50 freaking magazines.
My neighbor helped me pick them up and asked what they were. Then, the fear look on their face.
Jzero
Member
Can't really blame them with all the negative press towards guns.
BattleMonkey
Member
Shoulda told them about the upcoming revolution.
Yep. Two 91/30's and an M44. I want a PU Sniper but not enough to spend $600 on one.
dorkimoe
Member
Good, now they will stop stealing your paper
Im still trying to find a good priced AK, had a big gun show here last week, $1200
. They were 600 pre shooting, I wonder if/when they will go back to normal. Or if they will just stay that price since they are selling themAlso as a newbie gun owner, which kind of ammo is going to be the cheapest for shooting, FMJ? Need .40 ammo
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Good, now they will stop stealing your paper
Im still trying to find a good priced AK, had a big gun show here last week, $1200
Also as a newbie gun owner, which kind of ammo is going to be the cheapest for shooting, FMJ? Need .40 ammo
Walmart, if one near you sells ammo.
I think Winchester is cheap there.
dorkimoe
Member
Walmart is 100% sold out of pistol ammo. Was looking on that ammunitiontogo website. They are all out of FMJ now too...is hollow point fine?
Hollow point is fine it's just more expensive an FMJ. In some cases twice as much for half as much.
dorkimoe
Member
Ook thats what I was curious about. So Ill just wait for FMJ's to be in stock again
also, do they make any attachments for S&W M&P's?
If you have an academy, I'd check there. They do have a box/day limitation down here though.
Serious ammo shortage right now. I'm surprised there isn't more press about it.
dorkimoe
Member
We had an article in our local paper, the entire town was dry on Assault rifles, and almost bone dry on ammo. The local range is not selling ammo unless youre going to stay and shoot because they are so low.
http://www.pantagraph.com/news/loca...cle_372daad6-65b7-11e2-bbfb-001a4bcf887a.html
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Ook thats what I was curious about. So Ill just wait for FMJ's to be in stock again
also, do they make any attachments for S&W M&P's?
Just weapon lights and suppressors. You have to live in a state where suppressors are legal and buy a $200 stamp from the gov. And have a threaded barrel.
dorkimoe
Member
I was looking for a light but couldnt find one? Could you point me in the right direction
I live in the one state that has 0 conceal carry, no way we can have suppressors lol
Edit; found it! Micro90
I was looking for a light but couldnt find one? Could you point me in the right direction
I live in the one state that has 0 conceal carry, no way we can have suppressors lol
Edit; found it! Micro90
I like Surefire lights but they are damn expensive. Streamlight is ok. I have a Streamlight flashlight and it only took about 2 months before it got dim. I hardly used it too. I bought a Surefire flashlight and it's like having a piece of the Sun in my pocket. But it should be for a $66 flashlight.
MisterNoisy
Member
I was looking for a light but couldnt find one? Could you point me in the right direction
I live in the one state that has 0 conceal carry, no way we can have suppressors lol
Edit; found it! Micro90
The Micro90 isn't bad at all. If you're not in a hurry, wait for it to pop back up on woot.com, since they sell for around $25 there when they're up and I've seen them a couple of times.
I have an XDS and a Benelli Nova pair for home defense. I can't wait to get into a neighborhood where the primary use of my Nova is shooting trap.
Recently got a brand new factory Glock 19 Gen 4 (came with a Trijicon night sights) and some American Eagle 9mm 50rd boxes for 15$ a piece
haven't got a chance to shoot it yet
Ammo is sparse but don't look in big retail stores like walmart and gander mt.
(they don't have shit, entire store shelves cleared) wtf?
something curious though gun GAF
all 3 mags in the G19 Glock box was .40 cal
the store owner told me this was intended for off-duty or retired law enforcement to hold more 15 rds of 9mm in a 10rd .40 cal Mag
during range time or ahem Zombie Apoc...
a loophole ?
it fits perfectly though I suspect it was from a Glock 23 Gen 4
anyone ever heard of this ? the store owner assures me it will fire fine though
the 9mm's do fit inside the .40cal mags 15 of them in fact...
They say the cops don't give a damn because it's still a .40 cal 10rd mag
And they gave me the same "hookup" they gave to retired cops
is this a thing ? putting 15rds of 9mm in 10rd .40 cal mags ?
oh and I got a grip from amazon
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0014VRS22/?tag=neogaf0e-20
also a mic holster for CC
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006VYBAZ8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Glock MIC Universal IWB Holster -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCi2yqcIc0&feature=player_detailpage#t=293s
^
not bad for 20$
G19 was 670$
haven't got a chance to shoot it yet
Ammo is sparse but don't look in big retail stores like walmart and gander mt.
(they don't have shit, entire store shelves cleared) wtf?
something curious though gun GAF
all 3 mags in the G19 Glock box was .40 cal
the store owner told me this was intended for off-duty or retired law enforcement to hold more 15 rds of 9mm in a 10rd .40 cal Mag
during range time or ahem Zombie Apoc...
a loophole ?
it fits perfectly though I suspect it was from a Glock 23 Gen 4
anyone ever heard of this ? the store owner assures me it will fire fine though
the 9mm's do fit inside the .40cal mags 15 of them in fact...
They say the cops don't give a damn because it's still a .40 cal 10rd mag
And they gave me the same "hookup" they gave to retired cops
is this a thing ? putting 15rds of 9mm in 10rd .40 cal mags ?
oh and I got a grip from amazon
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0014VRS22/?tag=neogaf0e-20
also a mic holster for CC
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006VYBAZ8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Glock MIC Universal IWB Holster -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCi2yqcIc0&feature=player_detailpage#t=293s
^
not bad for 20$
G19 was 670$
BattleMonkey
Member
Local gun shops around here seem to be well stocked from this past weekend, but it seems that it's partially luck as suppliers are catching up with the increased orders on ammo.
Still everyone is completely out of any type of semi auto rifle with anything larger than a 10 round mag around here.
dorkimoe
Member
Anyone had any experience with gunbroker? Thought about ordering an AK from there since its like 300 less than my local store. Not sure how it works though?
Also should have my micro light when I get home, thanks everyone for the help on that. I wasnt in a hurry, but I never check woot and had some tax money left
Also should have my micro light when I get home, thanks everyone for the help on that
. I wasnt in a hurry, but I never check woot and had some tax money left
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
You will need to give the counterparty the address of a local FFL who is going to receive the firearm and transfer it to you. It's obviously important that you've already contacted the FFL to figure out what their requirements/fees happen to be for a transfer. You really need to have that ironed out before you close on any deal because that's really your problem, not the seller's.
With the seller, you should also confirm, before you close out, four things
1) How much shipping is going to cost if it's not already included
2) How will they actually ship it
3) From what FFL will they ship it (so you can tell your FFL to be on the lookout)
4) What procedure you need to go through if you need to return the firearm for any reason
When the firearm shows up, you go to the FFL, pay them the transfer fee, and fill out the NICS check. Once the NICS is complete and you're shown to be free and clear, they'll give you the firearm.
Gunbroker is like ebay. They are just an intermediary for cash. They do not ship any product and they have very few avenues for remedy. I honestly suggest you pay with American Express or a VISA/Master Card affiliated with a large bank (like BoA or Chase) so that if you get ripped off that you have someone who is willing to go to bat for you and contact any appropriate authorities.
Eighty Deuce
Banned
Well I feel like a douchebag. I had a buddy from Colorado order me 10 magpulls for 17 a pop. I've got a buyer here in Florida willing to dish out 50 bucks each. My buddies at the range gave me some shit about the ethics "cutting in line". It's hard to pass up a opportunity to make easy money during the panic. It's not like in selling my pmags from deployment.
just make sure that you follow through with your bid if you want to keep using the site. I had to unfortunately not follow through on 2 bids, and the site has now suspended my account. I think that is a bit brash, but so be it....
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
Fuck them. If some goofball wants to pay you 50 bucks for that shit, so be it. They're just sore they didn't think of it first.
Love my 91/30. You can make a "fake" PU sniper pretty easily for a lot less. The original PU scopes are about $200. Then all you need is the curved bolt handle, which I've seen all over the place.
Eighty Deuce
Banned
You're right, the profit I make is heading towards a gift for my wife and funding for a XDM 45
dorkimoe
Member
Awesome, thank you very much. Yeah I would use a Visa card.
I will contact my local dealer and find out all the information. I think they have a $30 fee
dorkimoe
Member
I found an ak in town. Guy has 2. One eaa black. And one norinco. Friend told me norincos are really good. It's got a wood body which is awesome. Might look into different stocks and stuff sometime, because black is sexy
Now I have to find ammo. And I want to find metal mags
Also. If you want to cringe. Instagram search "gun" see how horrible everyone's trigger discipline is. Really drives me crazy
Now I have to find ammo. And I want to find metal mags
Also. If you want to cringe. Instagram search "gun" see how horrible everyone's trigger discipline is. Really drives me crazy
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I will be picking up a Daewoo DH40 and 4 mags this weekend. All for $300.
It's not just trigger discipline, it's gun safety in general. Waving them around, not checking to see if they are loaded, youtube drives me nuts with that stuff.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Well, what if you wanted to practice being a HK movie style assassin? I would say Lara Croft, but you need 2 USP Matches.
Lionheart1827
Member
Man the title really needs to be changed. Whenever I see it pop up it just sounds creepy. :lol
Firearms [OT] would be perfect.
Anyway, I managed to secure more 9mm for cheap. My provider sells surplus Israeli 9mm military grade bullets made in 1995. They fire great, had no problems with em.
EDIT: Just noticed my tag, thanks to whoever changed it
Firearms [OT] would be perfect.
Anyway, I managed to secure more 9mm for cheap. My provider sells surplus Israeli 9mm military grade bullets made in 1995. They fire great, had no problems with em.
EDIT: Just noticed my tag, thanks to whoever changed it
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
Actually, I'm seeing the prices of ammo, extended clips, and Bushmaster ARs starting to come down. It's still a lot higher than it used to be though. Just bought 2500 rds of 7.62 x 25 Tokarev for my PPSh that I'm going to shoot this weekend. Cost me almost $800. And the Papasha will burn through 2500 rds in under 3 minutes on full auto.
Actually, I'm seeing the prices of ammo, extended clips, and Bushmaster ARs starting to come down. It's still a lot higher than it used to be though. Just bought 2500 rds of 7.62 x 25 Tokarev for my PPSh that I'm going to shoot this weekend. Cost me almost $800. And the Papasha will burn through 2500 rds in under 3 minutes on full auto.
Where do you live? From your posts I doubt it's the US.
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