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Any info on castlevania for DS?
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ImNotLikeThem
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nothing.
Buggy Loop
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I dont think that a touchscreen control scheme ala spiderman 2 would be "retarded" in any way, especially for Castlevania, seems like the most appropriate game to use something like that, but no, there's no info, at all, nobody knows if it will be 2d or 3d, but, i think that it will be 2d, most likely its a GBA 2d castlevania that was in concept and moved to DS since its release would have been kinda late, probably will upgrade the sprites and all that to playstation or above level. I dont think Igarashi would bother with 3d on an hardware that couldnt possibly live up to his view of the castlevania universe.
snapty00 said:
i don't think the ds is well suited to action games. as of e3, neither did igarashi. but if there's a proper 2d castlevania on ds, i might have to buy the console. :/
oh well. there's still every chance it'll be castlevania card battle, or castlevania 64x4, or canceledvania.
Quadrophenic
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I played Legacy of Darkness (or whatever the 2nd N64 Castlevania was) and it wasn't horrible. It had a very cool sequence in a hedge maze.
But the clock tower...jumping from gears to gears...ohhh the pain.
But the clock tower...jumping from gears to gears...ohhh the pain.
Spiritreaver
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drohne said:i don't think the ds is well suited to action games. as of e3, neither did igarashi. but if there's a proper 2d castlevania on ds, i might have to buy the console. :/
oh well. there's still every chance it'll be castlevania card battle, or castlevania 64x4, or canceledvania.
Or it could go to PSP and end up like ACiD?
Stop it with this nonsense. The thought of buying the DS... nooo the horror. Grow up.
EDIT: And, whereever it lands. I just hope it turns out nicely. I could honestly care less what system it lands on.
i'm not convinced that it's been moved to psp, i'm just...vigorously hoping that it has. i've waited years for a proper sequel to sotn, and ds isn't the hardware to do it. igarashi apparently has some issues with the ds, and we haven't actually heard anything about dsvania beyond its announcement. but i still expect it to show up on ds in some form.
iga did an egm interview about castlevania ds, and he was pretty diplomatic there. but he apparently mentioned to exxy at e3 that he found the ds poorly suited to action games.
and the dreamcast version looked horrible. i'm glad it was canned. i can still remember that ridiculous goateed protagonist with the photo-textured face who looked as if he'd stumbled out of nfl2k.
and the dreamcast version looked horrible. i'm glad it was canned. i can still remember that ridiculous goateed protagonist with the photo-textured face who looked as if he'd stumbled out of nfl2k.
I guess it depends on the translation.
Well, he didn't give much love to the GBA until the end. I hope he gives the DS a proper shot.
CotM was a great game, with hideous graphics and pretty cruddy music. HoD was a lovely game, with fucking NES-level music. AoS was the first one he got right on all counts, imho.
Edit - Wasn't Dreamcancelledvania supposed to star Sonya Belmont?
Well, he didn't give much love to the GBA until the end. I hope he gives the DS a proper shot.
CotM was a great game, with hideous graphics and pretty cruddy music. HoD was a lovely game, with fucking NES-level music. AoS was the first one he got right on all counts, imho.
Edit - Wasn't Dreamcancelledvania supposed to star Sonya Belmont?
if you're not going to make substantial use of the touchscreen or the twin displays, why put it on ds at all? gba has its massive userbase, and psp is much better hardware.
dreamcastlevania was supposed to star sonia and some douchebag named victor, iirc. i hated it the moment i saw his character model.
though cotm looks pretty chintzy compared to the later two gba games -- i think it was a retooled gbc game -- i really enjoyed it at the time. it's still the only metroidvania with challenging action segments. and hod's music takes too much flak. the sound quality was dodgy, but some of the composition was strong.
dreamcastlevania was supposed to star sonia and some douchebag named victor, iirc. i hated it the moment i saw his character model.
though cotm looks pretty chintzy compared to the later two gba games -- i think it was a retooled gbc game -- i really enjoyed it at the time. it's still the only metroidvania with challenging action segments. and hod's music takes too much flak. the sound quality was dodgy, but some of the composition was strong.
Mejilan said:
Oh yes he would. I don't know what he didn't like about Lament, but at least it didn't have slippery controls, poorly placed save points, and game breaking design decisions (such as three boss fights in a row, with no saves in between, that can take over 30 minutes) like the N64 Castlevania game had.
Pimpbaa
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drohne said:
That's a good point, but the DS still seems like it can do action games quite well.
Definitely, I thought the compostion was quite good. COTM was worse because it was just all old recycled castlevania music (not that there is anything wrong with the old classic tunes).
drohne said:
Oh, I love CotM, don't get me wrong. And yeah, it was a retooled GBC game. And a launch one, at that. But there's no reason why it should have better music than HoD. That game sucked, I didn't like it. And yes, it did have some great compositions. His excuses for the bad music still piss me off, particularly since AoS dashes those excuses right out of the water.
As for the N64 games, the controls were fine, the game had selectable difficulty levels (and was pretty easy, regardless of difficulty level), and fighting multiple bosses in a row are absolutely no problem if you have even a tiny bit of healing items.
It had a very fun and structured adventure, and actually felt more like a CV game than LoI, though I'm under absolutely no illusions about where it stands in the CV game-pile... like LoI, it's closer to the bottom.
Edit - CotM had the best composed version of Illusionary Dance, imho. Very cool rock rendition.
Mejilan said:
The controls weren't fine. Jumping and holding onto a ledge was more of a game of chance than anything. The poorly placed save points meant a lot of tedious sections had to be replayed. The first form of the last boss was a very slow and boring affair, followed by another boss that wasn't difficult, but that didn't matter since it was far easier to just slip off the roof and fall to your death (that is if you didn't fall during the escape before). And finally you get a final boss that can kill you in 3 hits before you even realize what happened.
I like Konami, but the N64 Castlevania felt really sloppy. You liked it great, but I was just giving the guy a warning. Then again my tastes and his differ, so he might like it.
Man, I played through the first CV64 about half a dozen times, and never had your problems. Played through LoD another 3 times, and even with the spottier framerate on the Hi Rez mode, didn't have those problems.
I wouldn't say I 'liked the games great' however, and do agree that in general, they were sloppy. But, imho, they were a step in the right direction for a 3D CV, one I'm saddened that Iga ignored in his travesty that was LoI.
I wouldn't say I 'liked the games great' however, and do agree that in general, they were sloppy. But, imho, they were a step in the right direction for a 3D CV, one I'm saddened that Iga ignored in his travesty that was LoI.
Operations
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Mejilan said:
Agreed 100%. The N64 Castlevanias were far from being great, but still head and shoulders above the atrocity that was LoI.
imastalker co.
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the game will be unveiled in january along with Boktai.
imastalker co.
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all i can say is take my word for it.
does anyone else (besides Miburuo) find it inexcusably insane that anyone is defending CV64?
im a huge Castlevania whore, ive loved is since i first played CV on the NES.
but there is nothing redeeming about the first CV64 game (never played the remixed one). it is a bad bad game. it had many problems and was extremely ugly.
i fail to see how it was a step in the right direction towards an actually playable 3d CV game.
im a huge Castlevania whore, ive loved is since i first played CV on the NES.
but there is nothing redeeming about the first CV64 game (never played the remixed one). it is a bad bad game. it had many problems and was extremely ugly.
i fail to see how it was a step in the right direction towards an actually playable 3d CV game.
Quadrophenic
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As a good Konami whore, I played ALL Castlevania games and my opinion is that the N64 Castlevania games aren't worse than Lamment of Innocence.
IGA always spoke bad about the N64 incarnations of Castlevania but the fact is that his first 3D vania has the same flaws but it adds one: REPETITIVE level design to death.
IGA always spoke bad about the N64 incarnations of Castlevania but the fact is that his first 3D vania has the same flaws but it adds one: REPETITIVE level design to death.
DS is new hardware. People will buy it and they will need games for it. One of those games could very well be a Castlevania. Not to mention that DS is slightly more capable and has cheaper media. As for PSP I'm sure there will be a Castlevania for it eventually.drohne said:
legacy of darkness isn't a great game by any means, but it's definitely better than lament of innocence. I had less of a problem with the controls and more of a problem with the far too strict adaptation/interpretation of old school 2d castlevania in 3d in the n64 games than anything else. the 3d games would have been much better metroidvanias than the gba games, and I'm not joking there. the gba games were good (or at least decent, I personally hated cotm because it felt like a not even half-assed version of sotn and konami fucked me over on getting aria by making it go out of print 5 days after it went retail) but that kind of open-ended exploration/backtracking stuff would have been godlike in 3d (and to an extent there was exploration in the n64 CV games, but it was only exploration/backtracking throughout the linear-progressing levels) while the gameplay of the n64 CVs would have been badass in 2d even if it would have just been a rehash of the older 2d CV games.