It makes me fucking sick that the smell of weed was part of this reprehensible piece of shits defense. Fuck this guy so much.
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AP: Dashcam video shows officer firing 7 shots into Castile car
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It makes me fucking sick that the smell of weed was part of this reprehensible piece of shits defense. Fuck this guy so much.
A Serious Man
Member
Fuck this racist goon. He's calmly and politely informed of the firearm and automatically assumes Castile is a thug who will try to murder him at the first sign of movement. How are you supposed to reach for your ID at that point? Did he really think Castile would tell him about the gun if his intent was to pull it on him? Why do the people in a position of power have the right to slaughter others as soon as they feel uncomfortable?
I wish a prosecutor would make this point during a trial at some point.
elrechazado
Banned
But Castile might have had reefer madness, so it's understandable.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Prosecutors have a hand in the jury selection process.
I realize others have responded to you and you may consider this dogpiling but I'll say this anyway. Within the Black community, the reputation of police are well known, this has happened since the conception of the US, if you think this is a new media craze then go into Black communities that can tell you tales of police escalation, violence, and murder spanning generations. I would dare you to tell them and me, that it's just media material.
At the end of the day, police are, and I said this in other topics as well, they are 100% responsible for their reputation. That is not a fact that is up for discussion or disputable. If they wanted to change public perception they would, they would work and change the police force. But so-called good cops, turn a blind eye to bad ones, and bad ones get away with murder. So skepticism of the police force is well warranted.
As a Black male living in the US I never feel safe when an office is present. I just don't. When the police decide to change then maybe I can have a change of heart. But I will say this, Black skepticism doesn't fill prisons with bodies or kill citizens and not face punishment. Complacency makes a person party to in the police force. And telling African Americans to leave....umm we weren't products of immigration.
May Castile rest and peace.
That anyone bought that nonsense when he shot seven times into the car with said child and another passenger is infuriating. He deserves no fucking sympathy.
elrechazado
Banned
So does the defense. If jury selection were magic for prosecutors, they would win every case.
Secret Fawful
Member
Fuck any society and every institution that allows murder like this to go unpunished.
Jmanunknown
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The One and Done;241399101 said:
Listen to this Richard Pryor joke from 1974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf3ZiSZPMYU
The officer is a monster he killed an innocent man and then instead of doing the right thing and admit he was wrong he smeared the man who he killed reputation all in an effort to save himself. The City and tax payers will end up footing the bill again as they put a price tag on Philando's corpse and the cycle will continue.
If you have issue with police in this country, tough shit.
or become white.
I would imagine either would work for J-Rzez.
Were "I wasn't reaching" his dying words? This murder and trial result are tragic, heartbreaking, and infuriating beyond description. There are no condolences immense enough to adequately express how sickening and saddening this is.
Yep. To add: talk to any old Italians, Irish, or Polish people in this country. They'll have stories of police abuse, too. Almost every ethnicity, even those now considered White, have a long and well documented history of suffering and discrimination at the hands of police in this country. And all of it, throughout history, is clearly known by multiple generations to have been motivated by racism. Every major police department in the country has a long and documented history (and present) of extensive corruption.
When we look at pictures from the Civil Rights Movement, it is police officers who are on the malicious end of high pressure water hoses and beatings. To this day, white Baby Boomers will tell you how horrible the Kent State shootings were. White people in rural areas will tell you how police like to flaunt their local power. Every white kid who grows up in the suburbs knows that certain officers in their neighborhood will try to stick you with bullshit tickets to fill quotas, or creep on women. Or has another white friend who has family in the force so gets away with shit. Every white kid who grows up in the suburbs alongside minority friends can tell you how much more often those friends get pulled over.
Everybody in this country knows that law enforcement as an institution is rotten to the core in myriad ways. I personally know some police officers, know that they try their best as individuals to help people, and as a white guy from the suburbs who grew up around minorities I still say this. It is documented fact, and it is in the history, folklore, and pop culture of every ethnicity and income bracket. But when that police abuse comes down on minority demonstrations and citizens, so much of the country is suddenly willing to defend the honor and sanctity of law enforcement to the last.
Suddenly a situation reminiscent of Kent State is much less terrible. The protesters deserved it. Suddenly a situation reminiscent of past ethnic abuse, even against their own blood, feels more distant. That was so long ago! It's just the media outrage machine! Suddenly all the childhood experiences of neighborhood impropriety are forgotten. The cops were only abusing their power, it was harmless.
Every time a tragedy like this occurs too much of the country suddenly find themselves knee deep in insincere bullshit of their own making, defending institutions that have abused them in ways large and small for decades. Unwilling to believe that people are actually suffering these injustices, despite their extensive historical precedent, simply because they refuse to do so. It's willful and malicious ignorance. It's privilege in action. It's racism. The institutions and the country feed each other's injustices, and it's a self sustaining oppression machine.
I cannot imagine having to endure the constant and consistent existential stress, anger, and sadness that people of color experience from these events.
Yep. To add: talk to any old Italians, Irish, or Polish people in this country. They'll have stories of police abuse, too. Almost every ethnicity, even those now considered White, have a long and well documented history of suffering and discrimination at the hands of police in this country. And all of it, throughout history, is clearly known by multiple generations to have been motivated by racism. Every major police department in the country has a long and documented history (and present) of extensive corruption.
When we look at pictures from the Civil Rights Movement, it is police officers who are on the malicious end of high pressure water hoses and beatings. To this day, white Baby Boomers will tell you how horrible the Kent State shootings were. White people in rural areas will tell you how police like to flaunt their local power. Every white kid who grows up in the suburbs knows that certain officers in their neighborhood will try to stick you with bullshit tickets to fill quotas, or creep on women. Or has another white friend who has family in the force so gets away with shit. Every white kid who grows up in the suburbs alongside minority friends can tell you how much more often those friends get pulled over.
Everybody in this country knows that law enforcement as an institution is rotten to the core in myriad ways. I personally know some police officers, know that they try their best as individuals to help people, and as a white guy from the suburbs who grew up around minorities I still say this. It is documented fact, and it is in the history, folklore, and pop culture of every ethnicity and income bracket. But when that police abuse comes down on minority demonstrations and citizens, so much of the country is suddenly willing to defend the honor and sanctity of law enforcement to the last.
Suddenly a situation reminiscent of Kent State is much less terrible. The protesters deserved it. Suddenly a situation reminiscent of past ethnic abuse, even against their own blood, feels more distant. That was so long ago! It's just the media outrage machine! Suddenly all the childhood experiences of neighborhood impropriety are forgotten. The cops were only abusing their power, it was harmless.
Every time a tragedy like this occurs too much of the country suddenly find themselves knee deep in insincere bullshit of their own making, defending institutions that have abused them in ways large and small for decades. Unwilling to believe that people are actually suffering these injustices, despite their extensive historical precedent, simply because they refuse to do so. It's willful and malicious ignorance. It's privilege in action. It's racism. The institutions and the country feed each other's injustices, and it's a self sustaining oppression machine.
I cannot imagine having to endure the constant and consistent existential stress, anger, and sadness that people of color experience from these events.
This has me super triggered because a similar situation happened to me in Arkansas. This was a few years before it became common place to hear about black men being slain in mass, but as I was pulling into a restaurant to meet some friends for lunch, an officer pulled up behind me, blocking me in. No lights. No siren. I was unaware of this, so I start to get out of my car. I hear from behind me "get back in your car." Confused,I turn around to see an officer with his hand on his pistol, who then reiterates " GET BACK IN YOUR CAR " (FUN FACT: This particular officer had been shot the year before in a college apartment drug bust! The fact that he wasn't fully drawn and ready to fire seems like a miracle at this point.)
My friends are all in the restaurant watching this go down.
He tells me he pulled me over for my broken taillight lens and gives me a ticket. I learn later from one of my friends who was watching everything (and has ties to the local police) that the real reason I was pulled over that day was because my car and "features" supposedly matched that of someone they were looking for. So black with dreads. Any number of people. I got the ticket because I got out of the car and gave the cop "attitude". Now imagine if I had actually given the cop some attitude for stealth stopping me while I was hungry and embarrassing me in front of my friends, which I've literally seen white women do.
excelsiorlef
Member
What the fuck.
What the flying fuck?!?! Oh ny gosh. FUCK THIS GUY! The piece of shit got me fumming! I seriously wouldn't be surprised if Vigilante justice starts kicking off for these Police officers (these assholes not all) are demons in disguise. Fuck.
excelsiorlef
Member
The One and Done;241399944 said:
I'm impressed that you literally all lives mattered a cop murdering a black man.
No I'm actually not impressed at all.
It's a tragedy in one direction only: an innocent man is dead, family has been shattered and the murderer walked scott free
Opus Angelorum
Member
The fact he shot him 7 times suggests at the very least that he wasn't a very well trained officer. One shot to the legs would have been enough to deter any perceived aggression.
I'm not discounting the fact it's straight up murder, and likely race fuelled.
I'm not discounting the fact it's straight up murder, and likely race fuelled.
If the police dont want to be associated with the bad apples, then they should stop protecting them when they kill innocent people. You dont get to defend these fuckers and shield them from public scrutiny and then get to be absolved for not being one of them. Theyre directly contributing to the problem.
PataHikari
Banned
The majority of cops aren't bad.
All cops are bad.
There are no good cops.
Good cops get chased out of the job for standing up to brutality. Good cops get fired when they talk down a mentally ill man instead of shooting him. Good cops get forced into mental institutions when exposing corruption.
Good cops very quickly stop being cops.
This is so horrible. Where is the nation's sympathy for this murdered man and his family? This shit makes you so angry.
This is a powerful post and I would strongly agree with every word.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Did something happen that the nation should care about?
Sounds like your standard Tuesday to me.
That is not a lie for i remember those cases. Absolutely disgusting.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
So he shot an immobile man seven fucking times within a foot of a child and another passenger.....
because he was a black man smoking, and that means that at any minute he would kill both people in the car.
ErasureAcer
Banned
The cop admits on tape "I had no effing idea where the gun was."
The whole legal system is fucked. Burn it down.
Police are the protectors of whiteness and make them feel safe. Black people are the Other.
How about go to prison for the rest of your life for murdering an innocent person?
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Maybe the cop was shook because he knew that this was JUST another of the FIFTY PLUS times they'd be stopping Philando Castile, harassing him and letting him go with no charges, citations or ANYTHING.
If you've spent 14 years harassing one guy you know by now isnt doing a fucking thing wrong, then yeah maybe you're gonna be a scared piece of shit now you know he has a gun.
Maybe you'll think he got it to finally end the years of harassment.
Oh, that can happen?
I'm sorry, I thought this was America.
If you've spent 14 years harassing one guy you know by now isnt doing a fucking thing wrong, then yeah maybe you're gonna be a scared piece of shit now you know he has a gun.
Maybe you'll think he got it to finally end the years of harassment.
Oh, that can happen?
I'm sorry, I thought this was America.
Really is depressing to go on news.com.au's Facebook page with the story and just seeing the ignorance and casual racism from my fellow Aussies.
"So the Mexican cop is racist towards the African American civilian? I didn't get that bit in the video. If the civilian had followed the instructions given to him he would still be alive today."
"Easy to judge someone who has to expect that they could lose their lives every time they pull someone over. I'd be taking no chances either. "
From one fellow aussie to another fuck you cunts.
"So the Mexican cop is racist towards the African American civilian? I didn't get that bit in the video. If the civilian had followed the instructions given to him he would still be alive today."
"Easy to judge someone who has to expect that they could lose their lives every time they pull someone over. I'd be taking no chances either. "
From one fellow aussie to another fuck you cunts.
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
the cop is a piece of shit... but now i ressent the jury even more, fucking assholes
Yeah, because cops are shooting white people all the time. They're so fucking tense around us.
Give whichever shithead said that an extra Fuck You from me
FloatingDivider
Member
Yeah this is murder. You can see his hand reach for and un-holster his firearm within a second of the word firearm being said. Philando's fate was drawn up at that point and that cop was going to see whatever his escalated mind told him he was going to see. He then proceeded to panic execute a man with seven rapid fire shots. It seems pretty clear cut to me and it'd be baffling that the American justice system is failing this badly, but it's probably failing as intended.
ReplacementPelican
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Here in the U.K. we have something called the 'IPCC' which is an independent body that oversees complaints against the police.
Some of the investigators are police but it's actually enshrined law that commissioners can't have previously worked for the police. They do the same thing for the border agency now too.
It's a bit under-funded and under-resourced and definitely needs more power but I think that maybe the US would benefit from this. I'm sure Republicans would naturally hate it and it would become a partisan issue though. Difficult to envisage anything changing for the better with the way the republicans act though.
Some of the investigators are police but it's actually enshrined law that commissioners can't have previously worked for the police. They do the same thing for the border agency now too.
It's a bit under-funded and under-resourced and definitely needs more power but I think that maybe the US would benefit from this. I'm sure Republicans would naturally hate it and it would become a partisan issue though. Difficult to envisage anything changing for the better with the way the republicans act though.
There's been attempts at this in the US. Unsurprisingly the independent investigator eventually gets either defunded or defanged and closed down
Sounds almost like Castile would have been safer if he had not announced that he has a gun. How messed up is that.
he was dead either way. that cop looked like he knew he finally had a chance to kill someone with a gun and took it. psycho fuck.
Yea that's what gets me. He would've been safer had he been actually arrestedand handcuffed and they found the gun during a search. It's ridiculous
cops have already shot people while handcuffed so not even that works
and while prone on the ground with their hands up
MastaKilla
Member
I have a friend in law enforcement who said the same thing and it ended with us yelling at each other. I think it's complete bullshit than officer who signs up for a dangerous job can be so fucking careless and inconsiderate about another person's life. Sure, be cautious and aware and ready. But the way they try to make shit look and sound like it's plausible and an unfortunate fact of the job really pisses me off. The guy openly carried his gun in an open carry state with a valid license to do so. If you're the cop and he politely and calmly tells you that, then I don't want to hear "I was scared" or "I had a family too" when you decide in 7 seconds to shoot him to death in front of his young daughter and wife.
I'm not upset with you, I'm just so upset with the law enforcement community acting like fucking lobbying politicians instead of seeing the humanity in people. This system is so broken beyond repair and if anybody says anything about it they get shitted on in evey which way. Look at Colin Kaepernick, the guy can even get a job now. I'm sick of the brush back we get when we say there's a very real problem in our criminal justice system. The "it's one bad cop not all of them" talk is completely missing the point that's it's an entirely flawed and racist system to begin with.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
J Rzez's posts are a refreshing reminder of the American resistance to police reform.
When they see cops with itchy trigger fingers blowing away minorities and not being held accountable, it's the system working as intended. The projection behind his protestations is palpable - people who think like him are intentionally chosen for juries in such cases.
When they see cops with itchy trigger fingers blowing away minorities and not being held accountable, it's the system working as intended. The projection behind his protestations is palpable - people who think like him are intentionally chosen for juries in such cases.
ReplacementPelican
Member
I assume, given the size of America, a federalised version of an IPCC would be untenable due to pure numbers and would likely have to run state-to-state with a federal oversight commission.
That being said, if its state-run that would mean Republican states would like de-fund and de-fang, as you'd noted.
Why is this though? Is there legitimate concerns over 'small government' or something? I don't really understand the benefit in having a police force that's largely unaccountable. It isn't really a 'left' or 'right' issue, is it? Its just sort of sensible.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
The DOJ put out dissertation-style reports on the systemic violence and racism in the Chicago PD and Ferguson PD. Sessions came into into office, literally said "TL;DR" and said we won't be doing that anymore because it's disturbing to suggest bias in local policing.
Yes, that's what he thinks is the disturbing part.
As long as you're male that is rich, white or with the police, the law will turn the other cheek.
If you're a minority, however, expect to be thrown in prison or possibly killed without doing anything wrong thanks to the aforementioned. The system does not care.
The bias is staggering and difficult to not be completely disgusted with. Yet it continues on. Why is this still happening?
If you're a minority, however, expect to be thrown in prison or possibly killed without doing anything wrong thanks to the aforementioned. The system does not care.
The bias is staggering and difficult to not be completely disgusted with. Yet it continues on. Why is this still happening?
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