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AP: Paul Manafort secretly worked for Russian billionaire to "benefit Putin gov."

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Xe4

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There's no contest. Manafort is pure evil
I dunno man, Stone is a dirtbag of the highest fucking order. Like, dude was a Nixon dirty trixter, and has engaged in spreading numerous conspiracies in order to aid republicans at the expense of other peoples lives.
You don't seem to understand how this works. Watergate didn't play out in a day.

Someone will testify to stay out of prison for decades, and all the dominos will fall into place

I don't think you read the thread if think I don't know what I'm talking about. I referenced Nixon deleting tapes a few posts later. I know these things take time, that still doesn't change the fact no one has been able to find a smoking gun yet.
 
what did he say? I don't have sound at work

Reporter: "So to be clear: Trump has no financial connections with any Russian oligarchs?"

Manafort: "Th-that's what he said. I-Th-that's what I sa-. That's obviously what the our position is."

^This is verbatim
 

Snaku

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The fact that Manafort is hiring a PR agency when he most likely has spooks, potentially from both the US AND Russia, following his every move just shows the level of stupidity of these folks.

Exactly, dude should be rolling over for the Feds and going into witness protection before he ends up dead.
 

ivajz

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I don't know if it was pointed out yet, but the Trump taxes returns we got were from 2005. The year before Manafort moved into Trump tower.
 
I don't know if it was pointed out yet, but the Trump taxes returns we got were from 2005. The year before Manafort moved into Trump tower.

Yeah if we get on anything from the last decade I'd be interested to see how it looks at that point.

With that being said, I've got so many 2's and 2's to put together I could get to 2048 easy.
 

kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
Here is the thing.

It's very possible that the PRESIDENT OF THE USA had no idea this was going on.

They keep flattering him, telling him what he hears is fake news, and that he's the best !

And this moron believes it.

Trump isn't a traitor, he's literally a puppet.

This is terrifying.
I'm sure that's the impression that he'd like to cultivate *now* but he has plenty of direct, questionable ties to Russian oligarchs of his own, like the one oligarch that bought a Florida property from him for 2.5 times the asking price and whose private jet has coincidentally landed at the same small airports at the same exact time as Trump's private jet multiple times since then.

Trump is completely unscrupulous and has no respect for the principles this nation was founded on. For him to be nothing more than a puppet would require a degree of ignorance so willful, he'd practically have to be a literal manchurian candidate for it to be believable.
 
I'm sure that's the impression that he'd like to cultivate *now* but he has plenty of direct, questionable ties to Russian oligarchs of his own, like the one oligarch that bought a Florida property from him for 2.5 times the asking price and whose private jet has coincidentally landed at the same small airports at the same exact time as Trump's private jet multiple times since then.

Trump is completely unscrupulous and has no respect for the principles this nation was founded on. For him to be nothing more than a puppet would require a degree of ignorance so willful, he'd practically have to be a literal manchurian candidate for it to be believable.

Trump sees the world as a series of dollar signs.
 
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I always avoided this dude because of his Kushner connections. Are people finding him to be legit?

He has been ahead of a lot of this stuff before MSM got their hands on it. I know many love Louise Mensch around here, and she retweets and interacts with him all the time.
 

Gumbie

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Plot twist


Putin actually reports to Trump instead of the other way around.

m-night-shyamalan.jpg
 
Wow being a traitor isn't even that bad! Emails are x10000 times worse ! Lock her up ! They're all the same ! Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama
 
It's an interesting timeline. The Ukraine has been trying to question Manafort for a bit now, but the White House hasn't cooperated. Now the AP comes out with this incredibly well sourced story. Feels like the Ukraine is trying to force Trump's​ hand.
 

VariantX

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You know if you wanted to pitch the stuff thats going on with this as a serious movie, you'd never get anywhere unless you pitched it as a comedy. You literally cannot make this shit up.
 

Morts

Member
Sometimes when this stuff comes out I think it seems more and more obvious that something untoward was going on and something will have to be be done, obviously. But he keeps getting to govern and the majority of people around me don't seem to notice or care, I start to wonder if I'm the conspiracy theorist now.
 

BlitzKeeg

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Sometimes when this stuff comes out I think it seems more and more obvious that something untoward was going on and something will have to be be done, obviously. But he keeps getting to govern and the majority of people around me don't seem to notice or care, I start to wonder if I'm the conspiracy theorist now.

When the conspiracy theorists run the country, the ones telling the truth are going to look crazy.

Trust me, you're not alone in thinking this. The american people need to wake the fuck up. This isn't just another "bad president".
 

rambis

Banned
I have to think at this point shit would move a lot quicker. So much more electronic surveillance and technology available to investigators. So much more electronic communications and transactions performed by perpetrators.

Plus us simply living in the age where people are able access much more information and tend to want answers more quickly.
I don't know what you all are referring to but there's no magic button you can press that produces "answers". The essence of investigation is that people still have to talk, and that can take years.

Not aimed at you, but its kinda annoying how some people go into every thread about this expecting a megaton and quickly dismissing anything that isnt as a non story.
 
It's an interesting timeline. The Ukraine has been trying to question Manafort for a bit now, but the White House hasn't cooperated. Now the AP comes out with this incredibly well sourced story. Feels like the Ukraine is trying to force Trump's​ hand.

Should have never taken that arms package off the platform. I think that is going to come back and bite Trump squarely in the ass.
 

BigDug13

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I don't know what you all are referring to but there's no magic button you can press that produces "answers". The essence of investigation is that people still have to talk, and that can take years.

Not aimed at you, but its kinda annoying how some people go into every thread about this expecting a megaton and quickly dismissing anything that isnt as a non story.

That's not what I said though. All I said was that When Compared to the length of the Watergate investigation, investigations now have so much more technology than before and criminals leave so many more digital footprints than before. I wasn't saying it should be quick. I was just saying it shouldn't take upwards of 2 years like Watergate.
 

Dartastic

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This is massive. As far as I'm concerned at this point, Trump is an illegitimate president whose policies need to not be enacted.
 

DonShula

Member
Sometimes when this stuff comes out I think it seems more and more obvious that something untoward was going on and something will have to be be done, obviously. But he keeps getting to govern and the majority of people around me don't seem to notice or care, I start to wonder if I'm the conspiracy theorist now.

My dad used to tell me that Obama was going to ruin the place and he was the most disastrous president of all time. The conspirators were socialists that wanted to take our freedom. He gave me a copy of a Glen Beck book and said it was important I read it.

Now that we have an actual threat as president, he doesn't want to talk politics anymore.
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
My dad used to tell me that Obama was going to ruin the place and he was the most disastrous president of all time. The conspirators were socialists that wanted to take our freedom. He gave me a copy of a Glen Beck book and said it was important I read it.

Now that we have an actual threat as president, he doesn't want to talk politics anymore.

watch, when this all goes down he'll blame Obama for creating a hyper-partisan atmosphere that led to the election of Trump.
 
Can't tell if jokes or oblivious or troll


His campaign manager who lived in Trump tower (and still does)

Not a joke or troll. Others in here, aside from myself, also pointed out this as per the AP report. It's a just small piece to a potential bigger puzzle.

His "unofficial" campaign manager whom Trump asked to step down amid the controversy when this came out pre-election. There was nothing in the story that indicated Trump had direct involvement in Manafort's dealings with Russia. Yes, he lived in the hotel and was part of the campaign but that's not enough.
 
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