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Apple finally releases "two button" mouse

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Phoenix said:
Too old to learn a new trick with the mouse :). I have one of those wrist pad things to keep my wrists elevated.
ugh, those are just as bad, because they still put pressure on your wrist. a little bit of behavioral training could save you years of pain!

re: clicking. my favorite keyboards are the old mechanical switch IBMs. those things click like crazy. big fan of the tactile feedback, regardless of the noise. it's just so insane that they would manufacture a noise over a silent mechanism.

also a big fan of the original intellimouse. that was a great design. the apple mouse shape just isn't comfortable for me, and the clicking mechanism is bizarre and uncomfortable
 
Hate, hate, hate the Apple mouse. It's just dying to be so different that it throws away all the strides in comfort companies have made in the last 10 years.

This new mouse looks to share the same basic design philosophy as it's predecessor.

Staying with logitech, thanks.
 
This little scrollwheel will make people fall in love with Apple iProducts much like the... scroll wheel on the Apple iPod which makes that shit brick stand out ahead of all other players!

SCROLLING THROUGH MUSIC HAS NEVER BEEN MORE EASY.
 
f_elz said:
Those new iBooks are nice. My 800 G3 has a bit of life left.

My G3 can't run OSX well (only 128MB of RAM and it still has 10.0.4 on it so I am not paying for the upgrades) and it can't run much at all. It takes forever just to boot.

I still have an original AirPort base station so I may get a new extreme one in the future.
 
Marconelly said:
It feels different. I don't like the titter tatter feel of Apple's mouse. I dont' like how the whole thing shifts in my hand when I click the 'button'.

Yeah, I think that pretty much sums up a major complaint for me. The whole mouse is moving downwards as opposed to just the button. Its like the whole thing is a button and that just feel wrong. Now if the front of the mouse was some sort of soft material that you pressed into and the rest of the mouse stayed still - that would feel better than the whole mouse moving.
 
ManaByte said:
My G3 can't run OSX well (only 128MB of RAM and it still has 10.0.4 on it so I am not paying for the upgrades) and it can't run much at all. It takes forever just to boot.

There is the problem right there.
 
from reading the reviews it sounds like you can't click both left and right mouse buttons at the same time

this is a HUGE and utterly ridiculous design flaw.
 
Bah the one button feel/two button action is a triumph of style over functionality. Obvious visual differences between seperate tactile actions are a *good* thing.

360 degree wheel on the other hand is very nifty.

Edit: No double click? Dubya-Tee-EFF
 
~1995 - July, 2005: "Apple is stupid for not releasing a 2 button mouse"
August, 2005: "Apple is stupid for not releasing the same 2 button mouse as everyone else"

Yep, roughly as predicted.
 
I think you're confused. It's more like the fact that it took them something like 15 years (not 10) to come out with a two button mouse, and for all their bitching about 2 button mice 'confusing the user' they've done it in a way that is only cosmetically different, and perhaps even more confusing for the end user than having two distinct and obvious buttons.

I look at that mouse and I imagine a little old lady saying "why does it do something different when I have my finger resting on the right side?!?!?!?"
 
RoadStar said:
dang apple's going to take over the mice seen now! first music then the world! haha

it's funny how worked up people get when apple releases something... if microsoft had released a new mouse there would be 5 replies.
 
what kind of logic is that? Why would an old lady be going out of her way to get a mighty mouse? They are still packing the one button mouse with macs...
 
iced lightning said:
it's funny how worked up people get when apple releases something... if microsoft had released a new mouse there would be 5 replies.

Seriously...

It's the Apple iProduct syndrome. When it comes to A/V recording I'm all there. When it comes to the die hard loyalists I just want to puke. It's not anything that really hasn't been done before if anyone really wanted to. Faux innovations like touch sensitivity and a scroll ball are pointless, the later having been done before. Somehow the first part of that sentence seems very familiar...

Mundane shit like this and the response it gets "FIRST THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, NOW THE WORLD!" simply scares me.
 
Lemurnator said:
Seriously...

It's the Apple iProduct syndrome. When it comes to A/V recording I'm all there. When it comes to the die hard loyalists I just want to puke. It's not anything that really hasn't been done before if anyone really wanted to. Faux innovations like touch sensitivity and a scroll ball are pointless, the later having been done before. Somehow the first part of that sentence seems very familiar...

Mundane shit like this and the response it gets "FIRST THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, NOW THE WORLD!" simply scares me.

The only reason I own a PC is because all the games are on PC.

If Mac got the same games at the same time I would only own a Mac.
 
Wait, does this mouse not allow you to rest both of your clicking fingers on it at the same time? The way I understand all your descriptions is that it's just like the current Apple mouse, except that depending on whether a finger is on the left or right side of the mouse, it'll click left or right. So no resting like on a normal mouse?
 
I'm pretty sure that, when I right-click, I lift my left finger anyway.
I would assume that most other people do the same thing...

...still, it seems like (from the reviews) Apple is being differently just for the sake of being different, not so much for the sake of usability.

The squeeze sensor is kinda neat though.
Dragging icons by holding the left mouse button works just fine...but it would be neat to "grab" icons and move them around with this stupidly named mouse.
 
I've NEVER been a fan of the newer Apple mice (well, out for several years now) where the whole thing is a button or whatever. It's just because I'm not used to them, but I end up having trouble double-clicking even because I'll rest my hand on the other half of the mouse making it impossible to click properly.

I dunno, I just don't see what advantages such a design affords.

Anyway this new mouse is out there I guess, I'd like to try it out though I highly doubt I'd prefer it to my good ol' Intellimouse (simple, two button with a wheel - nice and light, nothing too fancy).
 
I don't get what problem people have with Apples current mouse. Hold each side of the mouse between your thumb and 3rd finger on the white tabs, rest the other two at the front of the mouse, and press those down to click (as if there was a mouse button). No part of the mouse should touch anything but your fingertips.

Seriously, the fact that the whole mouse is a button thing is totally a non issue. If thats too hard a concept to master or get used to, go and buy whatever horribly disfigured behemoth you like from Microsoft or Logitec. They all work.
 
Pochacco said:
I'm pretty sure that, when I right-click, I lift my left finger anyway.
I would assume that most other people do the same thing...
I don't lift the other finger when I click, but I guess I must be unique if nobody else is complaining about this. It was the first thing I thought of!
 
Soybean said:
I don't lift the other finger when I click, but I guess I must be unique if nobody else is complaining about this. It was the first thing I thought of!

I don't lift my index finger when right clicking, either. Apparently that's the only time it matters. Might not be hard to adjust but I'd have to try it first.
 
MX1000Laser_w.stand.jpg


Still the king.

I'll admit the scroll whell and tilt function won't be as smooth as the minitrackball, but what it lacks there it makes up for in comfort and tactile feedback.

Also, the up/down buttons that bracket the scroll wheel is amazingly handy...

for surfing GAF; without using the scroll bar, you're able to quickly move up and down large threads... even more efficiently than using the middle click and scroll method (which often requires you to move the mouse up or down to gain enough room so that you can scroll up or down fast... and then requires an extra 2 button clicks on top of that).

The other functions, including left and right clicking as well as motion, are exemplary... the distance that it can be used from is amazing... over 30-40 feet away I'd say. The surfaces it will respond to... it's battery life (not an issue with corded mice admittedly, but then you lose out with the cord, feeling its weight and its tether).

It's application switcher is also pretty handy... when you're too lazy to mouse down to the toolbar and click, press the application switch button and a menu is given to you... even if you don't use the likes of Firefox or Opera with tabbed browsing, you can enjoy something just as if not more efficient with this mouse.

The only problem I've had with it is that, the back and forward buttons didn't work in Opera... but that's easily remedied by changing the buttons into generic mouse buttons via the software drivers; so a bit of broken redundancy from logitech there.
 
Hooker said:
Games - I can't play games anymore without a MX5*0 equivalent mouse


Let's take CS:S for example.

Left: Fire
Right: Secondary Fire
Middle-click: Reload
Button 3: Primary Weapon (Rifle) (scroll wheel up)
Burron 4: Secondary Weapon (Pistol) (scroll wheel down)
Button 5: Knife (big button left)
Button 6: Grenades (small button left)
Button 7: Bomb (task switcher button)

Using the scroll wheel to cycle through weapons takes too long. (and DAMN BF2 for not able to bind keys to the scroll wheel!!!)

Funny, I used only 3 buttons on my intellimouse(5 buttons) for all of my FPS.
 
iced lightning said:
it's funny how worked up people get when apple releases something... if microsoft had released a new mouse there would be 5 replies.
Because Apple has what many would describe as the best industrial design team in the PC industry, which has helped them transition solely from a technology company to a lifestyle company. MS commissioned Phillipe Starke for mouse designs, and they looked like ass. There was a thread on it on the old GAF.
 
Hitokage said:
Why have 10 buttons on your mouse when you have 22 easy to reach buttons on your keyboard. ;)

Because I want those fingers primed on WASD, right index finger on fire and hand on mouse.

That leaves me with my thumbs, pinkies, right middle and right index finger.

Seriously though; the MX1000 works much better in windows then as a super multi button mouse in games.

It also works decently as a 'remote control' for my desktop, for when I sit back and watch shows on the TV from the video out.
 
iced lightning said:
it's funny how worked up people get when apple releases something... if microsoft had released a new mouse there would be 5 replies.


You are being pretty liberal there.
 
Ars Technica three-page review

As it turns out, Apple blew the description of its "aural feedback" and "touch sensitivity" out of proportion and led most of us to believe that 1) there was some sort of speaker built into the mouse with synthetic mouse sounds coming out of it, and 2) the shell might be solid-state touch-sensitive like our beloved iPod wheels. That is absolutely not the case—I even stuck my ear up to the mouse while using it for several minutes to be sure (and received a few strange glances in the process).
 
Well here is my 0.02 based on my trying to use it at an Apple Store this morning in Atlanta.

Pros:
* Like the trackball - that is nice

Cons:
* Clicking is still a pain in the ass, and even moreso if your hand rests on the mouse
* Squeeze buttons suck less than on earlier Apple mice, but still suck nonetheless


Overall:
* Its not for me, but I wouldn't mind seeing some other vendors slap a trackball in place of the scroll wheel. Microsoft was kinda there with the lame attempt at the tilt wheel, but the scroll wheen is bvetter. Wish it was bigger though, much the same as I wish the whole mouse was bigger.
 
McFly said:

Yikes...

I can't believe that Apple finally made a two-button mouse! With a middle button and scroll wheel functionality no less! Cool beans! As soon as I saw the news this morning, I decided to make a quick trip down to the Palo Alto Apple Store and snag one for a quick review - it's a good thing I went early, they only received 10 of them and I bought the second to last one. With California tax, the cost was $50.96, quite a premium over the roughly $15 I paid for the black Microsoft scroll-wheel mouse it's replacing, but hey, it's a cool Apple product, right? I knew I'd be paying a premium for this stuff, and this mouse is pretty innovative.

Christ, talk about a grade A Apple zombie.
 
Picked up a Mighty Mouse today, out of sheer curiosity, knowing I had two weeks to return it if I was the slightest bit displeased with it. I used in with my PowerBook all afternoon at work.

The scroll ball is teeny-weeny but works just as well as any scroll wheel I have experienced. Its diagonal scrolling capabilities are fine and all for those who have a use for it. All 3 of you. But seriously, it works like a champ.

The touch sensors are not overly sensitive...99% of the time; you can rest your right finger on the mouse while left clicking and vice versa. For the four hours or so I've been using it, though, it has incorrectly registered 2 left clicks, acting as if I had right clicked. That's 2 times too many in my opinion and greatly degrades my support for Apple's use of a fancy-pants technology where the traditional, mechanical method works flawlessly. Tsk...

Speaking of clicks, I assumed prior to my purchase that the scoll ball click was independent of the left and right "touch-sensitive" clicks. I was wrong. It presses the whole mouse down as well. This explains why Apple did not add in a software action for simultaneous left and right click; the scroll ball click is both left and right click seemingly.

I was most excited about assigning the squeeze button on the sides as the Application Switcher. I did. It doesn't function as I hoped. The App Switcher pops up, but unlike command-tab, it doesn't automatically select the next application. You have to left click on the app icon you want to switch to. Additionally, what I failed to realize when daydreaming about the App Switcher assigned to a mouse button is that I use command-n frequently after switching to an app (e.g. Safari) to open a new window. Therefore, because I use a keyboard command immediately after accessing the App Switcher, I might as well stick with command-tab. That is, unless I find or make a script that automates command-n, and then assign that script to, say, the scroll ball click. I don't really want to geek out on a mouse button though.

I am happy that I can assign "Button 3" functionality to the scroll ball click, as Safari treats Button 3 as open URL in new tab. That's sped up my surfing somewhat; I no longer have to hold down command when clicking on a URL. And yes, I am aware this can be accomplished with most 3-button mice.

Message to Apple: Think different all you want. Don't do different unless practical.
 
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