Robb
Gold Member
Keep job / Screw with Tim Sweeney
Just one example of the impossible decisions these guys have to face every day.. This is why they’re paid the big bucks.
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Apple has rejected Epic Games' subimission of their own Epic Games Store in IoS
Just one example of the impossible decisions these guys have to face every day.. This is why they’re paid the big bucks.
Comandr
Member
What were they supposed to say? “Hahaha jokes on them we were going to do it anyway?”
You think that everything said in a press conference is the bare truth? There’s no strategy behind it? You seriously think Apple never had USB-C for iPhone on the docket?
I’m happily charging my 15 Pro Max with the same Type C cable I charge my other devices, thanks to the intervention of EU regulators.
People are happily installing emulators on iOS thanks to regulatory pressure.
People are eager for regulators to improve the product they already like. That’s what you’re not getting.
He’s not likely to lose this one, though. And he’ll happily pay the install fee Apple charges.
I hope Apple makes a show of force here and just pulls out of the EU.
Before you screeching nerds scream at me about what a big market the EU is for them- import. Buy from the UK or Switzerland.
I think a demonstration of integrity is more important in the long run than short term cash loss. Apple certainly has enough stockpiled they can afford it.
Apple deleted multiple VPN apps off the AppStore in Russia on request from the Russians. And you’re here advocating they pull out from the more lucrative EU region?
‘Demonstration of integrity’ indeed.
Russia forces Apple to remove VPN apps from the App Store
Apple has caved to pressure from Russian authorities and removed a number of the best iPhone VPN apps from the App Store in the country.
appleinsider.com
Wouldnt you getting an android sent a fairer message to apple rather than eu designing phones and forcing to comply? You act as if eu knows what customers want. Gdpr, digital euro, chat control, are all regulations that are awful and dangerous. And they decrease chance of new phone companies from forming because they might prevent business models like funding os development on app store fees and just from apple fucking things up with stupid decisions like lightning connector.
realcool
Member
Sweeney betrayed me and then he lied, tried to hide
and I died deep inside, and you know the reason why
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Well, something like “We were going to change to USB-C before the decision as we’ve seen that it will be more beneficial for our consumers” or some bullshit.
Yes, I truly believe that Apple forced to switch to USB-C due to EU regulation instead of their proprietary charger that they sell for millions in licensing fees.
Why did they have it already much before on ipads? They would have made more money on cables like you said, so why the change before eu?
Isn't a better solution to just buy an Android? They have phones that equals or even suprasses the iPhone.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
I don’t know. What I know is that Apple used a proprietary charger for their phones from the first iPhone.
ScHlAuChi
Member
Yep GDPR is clearly awful and dangerous! ...for companies violating it:
Norwegian court upholds illegal data-use fine for dating app Grindr
A Norwegian court on Monday upheld a $6 million fine for LGBTQ+ dating app Grindr after finding it illegally shared users' sensitive data.
www.thelocal.no
Chat Control - no objection there, that is dangerous, but technically impossible.
I already have an Android phone. I’ve used two phones for over a decade.
Why should I not be keen on moves that can improve my experience with iOS?
You think the people excited about emulators on iOS should have moved to Android instead?
I feel like much simpler legislation would have sufficed without having to click cookies on every site and there would be market pressure to provide better terms of service. Digital euro enables spying and withholding transactions much easier and there is plans to prevent cash transactions over 5000.Yep GDPR is clearly awful and dangerous! ...for companies violating it:
Digital Euro - it doesnt replace cash money, so what is your point?Norwegian court upholds illegal data-use fine for dating app Grindr
A Norwegian court on Monday upheld a $6 million fine for LGBTQ+ dating app Grindr after finding it illegally shared users' sensitive data.
Chat Control - no objection there, that is dangerous, but technically impossible.
They moved to only USB-C on their MacBooks, and had been touting their iPad Pros as computer replacements, including direct access to tons of inputs like regular PCs. They absolutely had to move to Type C on iPad in line with their marketing.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Yew right trash on top of trash is too much trash
How is it confusing?
The EU has mandated Apple to allow 3rd party marketplaces on iPhones. They’ve agreed to comply but have so far been throwing up obstacles to approvals.
Epic will likely win this case.
No. It would not be. Consoles are not general purpose computing devices and are sold subsidized with the entire business model centered around relatively low hardware cost with profit from software sales and royalties.
Apple sells their iphones with significant profit margins and advertise the devices as general
Purpose computing devices.
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proandrad
Member
Okay, thank you dumbing it down, that makes perfect sense now. But Apple’s profits shouldn’t have anything to do with this.
i want my own experience thats why i have android, not a curated experience i have basically no control over.Oh here comes the " Mac's can get viruses too " bs . The ratio to virus / malware infections is a minute amount compared to windows and android.
If you want a crappy experience get an android. Problem solved.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Then why are you in this thread?
because this is thread for the people who want to be able to use their devices their own way, apple make great hardware its just a shame about apple themselves.Then why are you in this thread?
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
They've now accepted their EGS submission. OP should be updated. 
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I Love Rock 'n' Roll
Member
Someone is saying "F*ck you" to Epic. That's great news to me!
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They've now accepted their EGS submission. OP should be updated.
Someone is saying "F*ck you" to Epic. That's great news to me!
They caved. Premature celebration
diffusionx
Gold Member
Nobody has yet explained to me why Apple is obligated to put everybody’s stupid app on their own store, when they allow side loading.
Topher
Identifies as young
CircleOfFire
Member
Oh look at the surprise on my face...
MarkMe2525
Banned
The people in here that are willing to bend the knee, to the walled garden of Apple, blows my mind. I don't particularly like Epic either, but I'll never bet against competition. If Apple is fighting this, rest assured it would benefit their customers, while stealing some coin from their trillion dollar coffers.
Apple have used monopolistic practices (as well as great products) to carve out a majority share of the mobile market in 1st world countries. They purposefully don't play nice with other platforms by ignoring standards (even when they are superior) to force their customers to submit to their proprietary solutions, and by breaking features so that they are degraded when used cross platform.
This isn't coming from an Apple hater, I have an Airbook, iPad, and Apple tv, but just like with politics, I refuse to be manipulated by tribalism to "vote" against my best interest.
Apple have used monopolistic practices (as well as great products) to carve out a majority share of the mobile market in 1st world countries. They purposefully don't play nice with other platforms by ignoring standards (even when they are superior) to force their customers to submit to their proprietary solutions, and by breaking features so that they are degraded when used cross platform.
This isn't coming from an Apple hater, I have an Airbook, iPad, and Apple tv, but just like with politics, I refuse to be manipulated by tribalism to "vote" against my best interest.
Topher
Identifies as young
Think you mean Macbook
MarkMe2525
Banned
Don't call me out like that. I was ranting, I'm not responsible for what I write when I'm ranting.
Topher
Identifies as young
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Starbuck2907
Member
Cheaper apps or app subscriptions is entirely possible. It’s why apps like X have different subscription fees depending upon where you sign up, web or device. “Apple tax”
Barakov
Member
Fahdis
Member
I hope Apple makes a show of force here and just pulls out of the EU.
Before you screeching nerds scream at me about what a big market the EU is for them- import. Buy from the UK or Switzerland.
I think a demonstration of integrity is more important in the long run than short term cash loss. Apple certainly has enough stockpiled they can afford it.
Apple began implementing USB-C into their mobile products in 2018 with the iPad. So let’s not pretend the only reason they ever switched over was because of the EU’s constant moving goalpost mandates.
A smart manufacturer slowly doles out new features to keep numbers up. Long past are the days of radical changes to annual phone releases. At this point, you just drip feed must have features, even if it means playing the long game.
Holy fucking shit I've read bad takes. But this one is the worst of them all. In this case a Multi-Trillion dollar company. Be damned that you're getting drip fed features Android had 8 years ago where the stupidest will pay for it. And also damn the EU for mandating things that are consumer friendly by changing a port that everyone already had. Those greedy bastards made you buy a wire made in a Mongolian basket weaving sweatshop. We should send you to Mars for your entitlements, please leave Earth.
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Hudo
Member
You would be surprised how many corporate cock suckers are on GAF.Holy fucking shit I've read bad takes. But this one is the worst of them all. In this case a Multi-Trillion dollar company. Be damned that you're getting drip fed features Android had 8 years ago where the stupidest will pay for it. And also damn the EU for mandating things that are consumer friendly by changing a port that everyone already had. Those greedy bastards made you buy a wire made in a Mongolian basket weaving sweatshop. We should send you to Mars for your entitlements, please leave Earth.
Fahdis
Member
I'm baffled. These kinds of people are the easiest to brainwash into believing anything.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Cut to five minutes later the EUC was notified Apple actually un-rejected the store and approved it. So, I guess that the bravery ended there.
Apple RN
Epic is one step closer to relaunching Fortnite on iPhones — in the EU.
Hours after posting that a notarization submission for the Epic Games Store had been rejected by Apple, Epic and its CEO Tim Sweeney now say it has been un-rejected (a familiar situation here). We’re still months away from EU residents actually getting the store on their iPhones and iPads...
www.theverge.com
Corporate bootlicking in this case keeps boldening a company who, thanks to their own hubris, will likely lead to regulations making the product worse. So, great job loving the company so much you would like it to get worse and worse (the corporate bootlicking, paid congress people refusing to pass any law that could hold Apple or MS accountable has a limit too, just further out than other countries where Apple tries to pay $0 taxes in).
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Goalus
Member
No lies detected.The iPhone is already trash.
It is therefore well suited for trash apps.
Topher
Identifies as young
Goalus
Member
I hope that, too. They are not needed at all.
proandrad
Member
iPhone users to Android fan boys.Holy fucking shit I've read bad takes. But this one is the worst of them all. In this case a Multi-Trillion dollar company. Be damned that you're getting drip fed features Android had 8 years ago where the stupidest will pay for it. And also damn the EU for mandating things that are consumer friendly by changing a port that everyone already had. Those greedy bastards made you buy a wire made in a Mongolian basket weaving sweatshop. We should send you to Mars for your entitlements, please leave Earth.
RazzleDazzleRB
Member
I’m not a big fan of governments making technology decisions for me.
Cyberpunkd
Member
You mean things like developing Internet?
RazzleDazzleRB
Member
Government not forcing me to use the internet
Fess
Member
That’ll come too once they get this done. On mobile and consoles and cloud services and TVs. They want to be everywhere. And Microsoft is waiting in the shadows.
MarkMe2525
Banned
They aren't "making decisions" for you, they are forcing Apple to allow you the ability to make these decisions for yourself.
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Remind me when last MS or Sony went on stage and argued that your Xbox or PlayStation could replace your PC.
RazzleDazzleRB
Member
So what if I wanted to buy a phone with a lightning connector or any other connector? I can’t now because governments are forcing technological decisions. What if a phone manufacturer has a better solution than usb c? Now they can’t do it because they are penalized. I’d rather let the consumers decide because I don’t trust governments to always make the right decisions and it stiffles innovation.