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Spiderjericho
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Technology is always moving forward. Might as well get an iPad 2 now. If the next generation is better, sell the old one.
Personally, the tablet experience still isn't mature.
Like I said pages back, maybe 2 to 4 GB of memory, a quad-core ARM and maybe a NGP like graphics processor, an OS that isn't EXACTLY like the phone's and not having to be tethered to iTunes would make the perfect tablet for me.
I also like the Android tablets integrated HDMI, support for SD cards (mostly), usb port and the tablet viewed as external storage device.
But from looking at the latest Galaxy, it's obvious that a slim profile sacrifices the HDMI and some of the functionality of the thicker tablets.
Also, there's a website I HAVE to go to for my job. The lack of flash makes the iPad a poor option to get that work done, and I don't see a mobile version.
Personally, the tablet experience still isn't mature.
Like I said pages back, maybe 2 to 4 GB of memory, a quad-core ARM and maybe a NGP like graphics processor, an OS that isn't EXACTLY like the phone's and not having to be tethered to iTunes would make the perfect tablet for me.
I also like the Android tablets integrated HDMI, support for SD cards (mostly), usb port and the tablet viewed as external storage device.
But from looking at the latest Galaxy, it's obvious that a slim profile sacrifices the HDMI and some of the functionality of the thicker tablets.
Also, there's a website I HAVE to go to for my job. The lack of flash makes the iPad a poor option to get that work done, and I don't see a mobile version.
brotkasten
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You sound like someone who would enjoy a 2012 Android tablet.Spiderjericho said:
Spiderjericho
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brotkasten said:
or a 2012 iPad if Apple takes the Android/HP/Blackberry/Windows challenge seriously. Their hardware refresh cycle should switch from one year to six months.
Except for the 512 RAM and Flash support, the iPad probably has the best tech in a tablet right now.
Android tablets at the end of the year are getting KAL-EL and Amazon is jumping on the Android train.
But some argue that there isn't a tablet market, it's just iPad, since the others aren't selling (except for maybe the Nook Color).
Spiderjericho
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Lonely1 said:I would wait for a Win8 tablet.
That's a pretty good point. If it has soho and enterprise network support, I'd be all over since it would look like another computer on the domain or work group.
Spiderjericho said:
Unfortunately this is true. Hopefully the competition steps up their game. Courting developers is the greatest challenge, since by default everyone develops for iOS due to the largest installed customer base. iPod still dominates MP3 players, iPhone still dominates the smartphone market (for a single manufacturer, Android is on everything but there isn't one particular phone ripping up the sales charts), and iPad is basically the only tablet people will buy. I doubt this will change much in the next few years, iPad will remain by far the most dominant tablet. I've given up hope on a superior alternative which is why I'm thinking of getting an iPad 2 now.
The transformer is selling because it looks like a laptop with detachable tablet screen, and it's aggressively priced. If other tablets came with keyboard docks at the $499 price point, they would likely be doing a lot better too. Including a keyboard dock is genius, because it comforts everyone who is concerned about a tablet not being as useful as a laptop for word processing.
Buckethead
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Tell them this is 2011 not 2001 and to make the switch to h264 and CSS.Spiderjericho said:
Spiderjericho
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Buckethead said:
LoL, I will.
And the Asus is merely selling out because of the price and supply constraints.
If any android tablet can sell more than 500,000 units I'd be surprised. I think it's a little early to tell, but I think the demand is more because of Apple's marketing and place in the technology market.
But I think we'll know in a few months or turn of the year when Asus, Aconia and Samsung announce the sales of their tablets. Honestly, I think the first MAJOR Android tablet will be the Amazon with KAL-EL, Amazon marketplace, Icecream Sundae, etc.
Spiderjericho said:
I'd liken the xoom to the droid 1 of tablets. Its really the start of something that has the potential to be just as big as it's nearest competitor...if not bigger. Just like the phones however, I dont ever see a singular device outpacing any of the ios counterparts.
It was only, what, a couple years ago where no one could have imagined ios NOT being the dominant mobile platform. Counting the honeycomb tablets out now, is certainly premature.
kinggroin said:
I don't think it's a lock that tablets will play out the same way as smartphones. Far from it.
In fact, the only dominant Android tablet I think we'll see will be from Amazon, and is going to be locked down to Amazon's ecosystem, more like iOS than vanilla Android.
It's not a Droid 1 because the smartphone market is dictated by carrier subsidies. Unless these things are sold for a penny or with buy-one-get-one-free deals, there's not going to be as huge of an uptick. Maybe there will be a huge uptick because of cheap resistive tablets in China and India, but that's not going to affect the apps that consumers want.kinggroin said:
Finally, tablets emphasize the unique apps more than on the phone. The unique experiences of things like Starwalk or GarageBand, games like Sword and Sworcery, or even interactive books like Our Choice. Android's large marketshare still hasn't created a good market for developers to make money--an app that was basically a book about environmentalism was able to make a ton of money and reached the top chart on launch. World of Goo outsold it's PC and Wii versions, even though there were less than 10 million iPads when World of Goo launched, and there are a ton more Wiis and PCs.
Tobor said:
Well for one, I chose the word potential. Just like its silly to say for sure they wont succeed, so to saying anything is a lock.
Second, I said we probably wont ever see a single android tablet get the kind of hw numbers even the og ipad managed. For the same reason its the case with phones...there's really no singular point if focus in the hardware side of things. I mean, what, the closest we've ever seen is with the og droid and the evo; yet those are miles away.
No. IF (and I admit, its a bif IF) there's any chance of android tablets being the most popular, it'll be because they offer more choice at much more competitive prices on the hardware side. Google needs to unify the os first however, then bake it till its golden brown (this takes time).
It was easier to accomplish in the cellphone markets since apple was (fortunately for Google), tethered to at&t in the US and Android was open source. It filled in a gap for folks who wanted a cool smartphone like their iphone owning friends, but were not on the right provider and/or couldnt afford one.
Edit: Numble, I should have clarified. My droid 1 analogy wasnt so much about hardware as it was about the launch of an OS that shows real promise.
thewesker said:
This and I own the speck case too. It won't lock into a standing position for shit. Crappy rubber parts. Its also pretty heavy. May buckle and just get a smartcover or try the cover linked below this post.
Anyone else have a strong recc for a cover similar to the speck pixelskin?
Copernicus said:
That's why comparisons to the first Motorola Droid (the first Android phone to do gangbuster sales, and actually got to 1 million sales faster than the first iPhone) is premature. Additionally, Eclair went AOSP about 2 weeks after the Droid launched, ushering in tons of Android phones that any random OEM in China or Korea could create. Xoom runs a proprietary OS that only a few OEMs have access to. That will presumably change with ICS, but there are too few similarities (beside the manufacturer) to adequately liken the Xoom to the Droid 1.
My gadget lust has me wanting to pick up a tablet and I have been following honeycomb for a while, and I got to try it the other day at a store and spent a good 20 minutes going through the OS and seeing what it had to offer.
The truth is that I was left very unimpressed with it, and that right now it feels like Honeycomb is an unfinished and superficial platform. Compared to my netbook which cost me $249 last year, half the cost of your average honeycomb tablet, the difference in usability, functionality and productivity is just huge! this isn't just an Android problem, the ipad suffers from the same issues to me as well thanks to Apple's design decisions and closed ecosystem, in just how limited they are when we can all agree there should be so much more potential. Truth is though, out of all the tablets on the market today, the best one is the ipad 2, and its the only one I could recommend to anyone.
Anyways, not saying that Honeycomb and tablets can't come good, but I feel like it needs another 12 months to get where it needs to be, and I wouldn't recommend one of these to anyone at the moment.
The truth is that I was left very unimpressed with it, and that right now it feels like Honeycomb is an unfinished and superficial platform. Compared to my netbook which cost me $249 last year, half the cost of your average honeycomb tablet, the difference in usability, functionality and productivity is just huge! this isn't just an Android problem, the ipad suffers from the same issues to me as well thanks to Apple's design decisions and closed ecosystem, in just how limited they are when we can all agree there should be so much more potential. Truth is though, out of all the tablets on the market today, the best one is the ipad 2, and its the only one I could recommend to anyone.
Anyways, not saying that Honeycomb and tablets can't come good, but I feel like it needs another 12 months to get where it needs to be, and I wouldn't recommend one of these to anyone at the moment.
OldJadedGamer
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Anyone have any luck with the web browser Skyfire? Want to get opinions before putting up the $5
It gets the job done if you want flash audio or video. But some sites like Hulu block it. If you visit a lot of flash sites, it can be useful. I find I use iCab more as an alternative browser. I only find myself needing flash mostly on local TV news sites that use flash for their videos (and only random links lead me there), or thisismynext.com's streaming podcast.OldJadedGamer said:
It's supposed to have a Twitter and/or Facebook overlay, but I don't use that. I've heard iSwifter is a better flash-enabled browser, that also lets you view Huli, but I've never tried it.
numble said:
You know...you're right. The G1 may be a more apt comparison as both devices ushered in a very early, but very promising, OS. Okay, so lets see where Google takes their tablet operating system a year from now...and if we see the first real droid-esque breakout tablet for the android platform.
My apologies btw for shitting up your thread with android talk. I'm out, but thanks for the friendly back and forth.
Ken Masters
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My mom wants a cheap laptop mainly for internet use, I'm thinking of just getting her an iPad instead, good/bad move?
Hell, it'd be better than a Netbook since she wouldn't have to put up with anything she doesn't need to. Also she'd get the added benefit of getting addicted to casual games and Angry Birds.
Definitely. If that's all she needs, get her one.
My dad bought my mom, who knows nothing about computers, a cheap Netbook right after the iPads came out just for email and FaceBook. She never uses it. Ever. My dad always ends up reading her her email on his own laptop and she never even looks at FaceBook. It sits mostly untouched in the corner of her workshop. (Had I known he was going to do that, I'd have just given her my old G3 iBook which would still have been better.) I recommended he get her an iPad when they came out and he shot me down and bought her that mistake. Then at the end of the year he bought himself an iPad and loves it. I bet if she had one, she'd actually use it. Hell, if the iPad 3 is so good I might get one and give her my iPad 2.
Definitely. If that's all she needs, get her one.
My dad bought my mom, who knows nothing about computers, a cheap Netbook right after the iPads came out just for email and FaceBook. She never uses it. Ever. My dad always ends up reading her her email on his own laptop and she never even looks at FaceBook. It sits mostly untouched in the corner of her workshop. (Had I known he was going to do that, I'd have just given her my old G3 iBook which would still have been better.) I recommended he get her an iPad when they came out and he shot me down and bought her that mistake. Then at the end of the year he bought himself an iPad and loves it. I bet if she had one, she'd actually use it. Hell, if the iPad 3 is so good I might get one and give her my iPad 2.
Nope, they'll replace it on the spot as long as AppleCare still applies. The replacement just comes in a brown box and is not with the same fancy retail box though. Buying from Apple will let you go to a store and return it within 14 days with no restocking charges, even if you bought it online.Zzoram said:
Apple customer service with a broken iPad without Apple Care would probably be more positive than Best Buy with the protection plan. I don't say that to bring down Best Buy, I say it because I've only heard great things about Apple Store customer care regarding current Apple product owners.Zzoram said:
Also, with Apple care you can wait a year before you add it.
LyleLanley
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Zzoram said:
Think about the resale value before you get it engraved.
Zzoram said:
I buy it for my laptops but I feel that Apple Care is unnecessary for iPad/iPhone/iPod's. If there is a problem with those devices (such as backlight leakage or dead pixels) you're most likely going to notice it right away within the 14 day return period and can get it exchanged on the spot no questions asked.
Spending $79 for a warranty on a $500 device is kinda pricey IMO.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
The iOS devices are tanks. They'll be fine without an extended warranty, IMO. Laptops, on the other hand... I just don't trust those things.
And hey, buy an iOS device with an Amex and get a free one year warranty extension.
And hey, buy an iOS device with an Amex and get a free one year warranty extension.
Buckethead
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My iPad feikon it's face about 4 feet from my dresser to my hardwood floor and has no issues of any kind.
Maybe in a rare bunch, but yeah, +1 for no warranty.
Maybe in a rare bunch, but yeah, +1 for no warranty.
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