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[NYR]

Only problem with the tethering thing is that it requires you to have it on month-to-month, whereas the iPad data plans let you buy one month at a time, IIRC.

Spoiler

for the love of god, jailbreak your goddamn phone

Yeah, but not in Canada. Tethering is free.

 

[Marty Chinn]

I think Apple's strategy of concentrating it's money on things that are experienced by everyone (IPS display, unibody aluminum structure, thinness, weight and battery life), while keeping a lower price point is better than putting it all there and having a higher entry price point (while still having clunky displays or heavier, thicker plastic bodies). If you never use the adapters, you save money, but you can't buy a dongle to add an IPS display to your device, or make your device thinner or lighter.

Cameras won't be experienced by everyone, but I guess an external adapter would be ugly. I understand where you're coming from but the price point for those ports really are negligable. Apple just knows it can make a ton more money by not offering it internally. Seriously, $39? Plus a USB and SD card slot would go a long way that would appeal to everyone. HDMI maybe not so much, but USB and SD definitely. The only reason they don't is not a benefit to the end user whether it be cost or anything else but simply to line Apple's pockets. So his point is true that none of thta benefits the end user.

 

[numble]

The point is that if I want to watch tonight's Survivor on my iPad I have to pay money for it, unless there's some other method I haven't figured out yet.

Doesn't CBS.com stream to iPad?

From iPad 1 launch:

The Web site for the CBS network, for instance, will stream only one TV show, “Survivor,” on the iPad on Saturday, even though the site streams many other shows online in Flash form. CBS says other TV shows will be made available for iPad viewing later.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/02/business/media/02netflix.html

 

[Burger]

Cameras won't be experienced by everyone, but I guess an external adapter would be ugly. I understand where you're coming from but the price point for those ports really are negligable. Apple just knows it can make a ton more money by not offering it internally. Seriously, $39? Plus a USB and SD card slot would go a long way that would appeal to everyone. HDMI maybe not so much, but USB and SD definitely. The only reason they don't is not a benefit to the end user whether it be cost or anything else but simply to line Apple's pockets. So his point is true that none of thta benefits the end user.

What would you do with a USB slot?

 

[Of All Trades]

Why can't I redownload my music from iTunes? Apple sucks!

This will stun you but both Apple and content providers can suck.

Why else are people buying the iPad in droves?

Do you even understand what's being discussed or are you still stuck on the whole widget thing?

What exactly do you want USB storage for anyway?

Because I can't redownload songs from iTunes? Is this a serious question? I know you get destroyed on prices in Mordor but I can buy a 2TB external HDD for like $100 and memory sticks come in cereal boxes. I bought a 16 gb flash drive from Costco like two years ago for $25.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Simple. I care about reading RSS feeds. I don't care about the weather often enough to need a widget. I can press one button and check it. The stuff I do want to know, like how many emails I have waiting, I already get. I'm less averse to the idea on the iPhone, bite sized data makes more sense to me there. It's just not how I use my iPad, and if they do add them, I'd hope they're optional or hidden, just like in OS X.

The key to the RSS reader is that it turns on when when I want it, takes up the full screen, then disappears until I need it again. That's how I want to use my device.

It's not how you use your iPad because you have no choice on how to use it. It really is no different than an RSS reader when you break it down. It's a centralized location to quickly look at different info. It could be a number of thing, latest news, latest sport scores, recent RSS feeds, you current agenda for the day and so forth. There's a wealth of reason to have all that available in some widget form rather than what we have now. I find it hard to believe you can't understand wanting a central and quicker access to info when you utilize a RSS Reader which simply is a replacement of having to go to every website to see what's going on. You don't like doing it there, so why can't you understand that people wouldn't want to do it with Apps?

Widgets should definitely be optional, especially if they're intertwined like on Android. I would certainly not mind a compromise of having one or two screens of widgets and then like multitasking, some limitations on how you design your widgets, but to not understand how it could benefit something in a tablet form factor is kinda boggling.

I don't think it's an issue of complexity either because it doesn't have to be. Just like push notifications, you turn on and off the ones you want, and like App screen management, you position them the way you want. I don't get what's so complicated.

What would you do with a USB slot?

Well in an ideal world, it would let me have an external HDD so I can transfer photos to it from an SD card, but that's my private use case. It's the one reason I can't use an iPad alone on travel and will need a laptop which makes the iPad now redundant in that case. I recognize that not everyone has this need though.

What it could be used for reasonably is well, instead of having to carry two cables around with you all the time, you would just need one USB cable which then you can use to read photos off of to use in certain apps. You could do the same with video. In fact Tobor told me with an iPad, if you buy the USB adapter, you can hook your iPhone up to it to use the video you captured on the iPhone to be used in the iPad version of iMovies. That's would be a huge benefit and make iMovies more useful on the iPad to me because realistically, I'm going to be capturing movies onthe iPhone and not the iPad like I think most people will. There's a number of benefits that come along with it including the fact that you wouldn't have to buy an expensive adapter that you have to carry around with you, making it a third unit to carry (regular USB, Apple USB, USB adapter) when it's all USB and could be simplified to one cable. I understand Apple's financial incentive, but to the end consumer it hurts you more than it benefits you.

 

[bob page]

For those looking for a smartcover combo, I just picked up this Booq Boa sleeve. Fits with the iPad 2 + smartcover and looks awesome:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003G40KWA/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[kehs]

We are talking about file type support? I thought we were talking about why content providers aren't supporting mobile devices...

What files don't work on iPad?

I'll let of all trades clarify, but "this content is not supported on this device"usually has to do with file type support(plug ins), where as "this content is not availalble for this device" usually has to do with licensing(hulu).

edit: yeah it was an ipad/iphone thing, my bad, carry on.

 

[Tobor]

It's not how you use your iPad because you have no choice on how to use it. It really is no different than an RSS reader when you break it down. It's a centralized location to quickly look at different info. It could be a number of thing, latest news, latest sport scores, recent RSS feeds, you current agenda for the day and so forth. There's a wealth of reason to have all that available in some widget form rather than what we have now. I find it hard to believe you can't understand wanting a central and quicker access to info when you utilize a RSS Reader which simply is a replacement of having to go to every website to see what's going on. You don't like doing it there, so why can't you understand that people wouldn't want to do it with Apps?

Widgets should definitely be optional, especially if they're intertwined like on Android. I would certainly not mind a compromise of having one or two screens of widgets and then like multitasking, some limitations on how you design your widgets, but to not understand how it could benefit something in a tablet form factor is kinda boggling.

I don't think it's an issue of complexity either because it doesn't have to be. Just like push notifications, you turn on and off the ones you want, and like App screen management, you position them the way you want. I don't get what's so complicated.

I understand everything you're saying. It doesn't interest or bother me. I'm fine with going into the apps.

If we agree that they should be optional, then the only disagreement we have is on personal need, which isn't going to change.

 

[Of All Trades]

It wasn't a troll as I answered the question posed.

The question that was on like page 10 of OT? Did the thread actually summon you with its eldritch powers?

When you troll out the magical line, how can anyone take you seriously? Especially when your experiences of usage aren't matching the general user's?

From talking to friends with iPads (who are in no way power users) their experiences largely match mine. They like reading People and other magazines but are frustrated at being blocked from web content. They don't like having to plug it into a laptop to sync iTunes. None of them know what Air Video is.

Why can't I watch today's BBC content on the Netflix site? Because of content providers. It's that simple.

Why would I want to watch BBC content on the Netflix site? Why wouldn't I watch it on the BBC site?

Doesn't CBS.com stream to iPad?

Yes but Survivor episodes (and from what I can tell all other shows) are blocked. Clips are allowed. If I go to the website on a laptop everything is available.

 

[Burger]

This will stun you but both Apple and content providers can suck.

This might upset you, but TV companies want you to watch your TV, Music companies want you to buy CD's, and Movie companies want you to go to the theatre.

They don't give a fuck about you, or your silly notions of portable anytime media.

Do you even understand what's being discussed or are you still stuck on the whole widget thing?

People buy iPads because they work, because they have Apps, because the experience is familiar... and they don't have to worry about files.

Because I can't redownload songs from iTunes? Is this a serious question? I know you get destroyed on prices in Mordor but I can buy a 2TB external HDD for like $100 and memory sticks come in cereal boxes. I bought a 16 gb flash drive from Costco like two years ago for $25.

If Apple get their way, that might change soon. Are your songs not on your computer, you know, the one you plug your iPad into via USB to copy your songs across?

Shit, with Home Sharing you don't even need the songs on your iPad. Or are you one of those Napster throwbacks who want to put files into folders and spend a couple of days playing with ID3 tags and file names?

I've got 2 external drives and countless USB sticks. Lord knows why I'd ever want to plug them into my iPad though.

 

[Of All Trades]

I'll let of all trades clarify, but "this content is not supported on this device"usually has to do with file type support(plug ins), where as "this content is not availalble for this device" usually has to do with licensing(hulu).

edit: yeah it was an ipad/iphone thing, my bad, carry on.

Lack of MKV support is a separate issue since that's what I back all my movies/TV up as, but Air Video deals with that.

 

[Burger]

Lack of MKV support is a separate issue since that's what I back all my movies/TV up as, but Air Video deals with that.

Are they x264's with AAC audio inside a MKV container? If so you just need to change the container format to MP4, which you can do using MKVtools:

http://www.emmgunn.com/mokgvm2dvd/mokgvmhome.html

If it's just the audio then it doesn't take long to convert that, but otherwise you don't need to transcode your files. If you are using some other video format... then don't.

 

[Of All Trades]

This might upset you, but TV companies want you to watch your TV, Music companies want you to buy CD's, and Movie companies want you to go to the theatre.

They don't give a fuck about you, or your silly notions of portable anytime media.

I'm not certain which is worse, the fact that you seem unaware of the existing options for portable anytime media or that you seem to think that portable anytime media is bad.

People buy iPads because they work, because they have Apps, because the experience is familiar... and they don't have to worry about files.

So you don't understand.

If Apple get their way, that might change soon. Are your songs not on your computer, you know, the one you plug your iPad into via USB to copy your songs across?

No, they're on external hdds, along with my movies, tv shows, and comics (and psp games and GoG games).

Shit, with Home Sharing you don't even need the songs on your iPad.

I do if I'm not at home?

Or are you one of those Napster throwbacks who want to put files into folders and spend a couple of days playing with ID3 tags and file names?

No I just put the cd in and windows does the rest. It makes a folder, sticks the mp3s in there, and seems to label the songs fine. I don't think about it too hard. It's very nice. Then I move it into the "music" folder on the external hdd.

 

[jon bones]

are you one of those Napster throwbacks who want to put files into folders

alright i'm out of here

 

[giga]

Are they x264's with AAC audio inside a MKV container? If so you just need to change the container format to MP4, which you can do using MKVtools:

http://www.emmgunn.com/mokgvm2dvd/mokgvmhome.html

If it's just the audio then it doesn't take long to convert that, but otherwise you don't need to transcode your files. If you are using some other video format... then don't.

Speaking of remuxing, that's going to be done on the fly soon with Plex. No more transcoding anything except for 5.1 audio.

http://elan.plexapp.com/2011/03/14/coming-attractions-part-5/

 

[Burger]

1) I'm not certain which is worse, the fact that you seem unaware of the existing options for portable anytime media or that you seem to think that portable anytime media is bad.


2) So you don't understand.


3) No, they're on external hdds, along with my movies, tv shows, and comics (and psp games and GoG games).


4) I do if I'm not at home?

1) Of course I don't hate it, but I can wrap my mind around the factoid that it's beyond the control of Apple.

2) What I don't understand is why you think making the iPad more like a XP 'Tablet Computer' is a good thing.

3) Doesn't matter where they are then, as long as they are in iTunes.

4) Then plug your iPad into iTunes and click Sync. Or do it manually. It's easy, I'm sure you can find a tutorial at apple.com, or take it into a genius bar and get them to show you. Or get your mum to show you, I'm sure she's figured it out.

 

[mrkgoo]

Shit, with Home Sharing you don't even need the songs on your iPad. Or are you one of those Napster throwbacks who want to put files into folders and spend a couple of days playing with ID3 tags and file names?

I've got 2 external drives and countless USB sticks. Lord knows why I'd ever want to plug them into my iPad though.

c
I don't know about you, but I'm really anal about syncing. I just have to constantly sync and will do so several times a day.

However, I think that many, many people do not do this, and maybe even sync once a month or less. For those people, getting content onto their iPad without a computer is pretty important.

Obviously for me, it's a non issue, since I sync way more often than is necessary, but I wonder how often that is for others and, indeed, most people?

 

[LyleLanley]

Just got my iPad 2, now I just need to find a good case before I go on my trip on sunday.

 

[krypt0nian]

This is more about Of All Trades being left behind by the tablet market, than him leaving the iPad behind.

Clearly the momentum the iPad has now means that by and large people are satisfied. As more pads sell, more web content will be on offer. We've seen that already with most major sites already offering HTML5 goodness. I personally cannot recall when I was last stymied by the lack of content on the iPad. But that's me. Of All Trade's friends are having opposite experiences.

 

[hyp]

Just got my iPad 2, now I just need to find a good case before I go on my trip on sunday.

congrats. mine just got delivered. i've had ipad2 blue balls for far too long. my body is READY.

 

[NumberTwo]

Everyone should try out "Zite" magazine, it's kind of like Flipboard but less flashy. It aggregates news from a bunch of different mediums including rss and tweets. I've actually found myself using it more than any other news aggregate app.

 

[LyleLanley]

Anyone know if apple stores or best buys are selling cases that cover the back? I don't care if it has smart cover tech or not.

 

[Burger]

c
I don't know about you, but I'm really anal about syncing. I just have to constantly sync and will do so several times a day.

However, I think that many, many people do not do this, and maybe even sync once a month or less. For those people, getting content onto their iPad without a computer is pretty important.

Obviously for me, it's a non issue, since I sync way more often than is necessary, but I wonder how often that is for others and, indeed, most people?

Yeah but the iPad doesn't run iTunes. It runs iPod.app

In order for anything to change based on how it's historically been done would involve ditching the 'device as a slave of iTunes' way of doing things. I'm sure Apple is working on something (cloud based storage/streaming), but it's not going to involve pluging in a USB HDD and copying files.

 

[Marty Chinn]

This is more about Of All Trades being left behind by the tablet market, than him leaving the iPad behind.

Clearly the momentum the iPad has now means that by and large people are satisfied. As more pads sell, more web content will be on offer. We've seen that already with most major sites already offering HTML5 goodness. I personally cannot recall when I was last stymied by the lack of content on the iPad. But that's me. Of All Trade's friends are having opposite experiences.

But why do we automatically assume that this is good? Sales doesn't always mean quality or that things are good. Things could be extremely mediocre but still sell well. I'm not saying that the iPad is that, but the conclusions drawn are based on a false pretense. As many of you Mac fans should know, you thought OSX was vastly superior to Windows but if you're going by the numbers, Windows would look better based on that false pretense.

 

[Piggus]

c
I don't know about you, but I'm really anal about syncing. I just have to constantly sync and will do so several times a day.

However, I think that many, many people do not do this, and maybe even sync once a month or less. For those people, getting content onto their iPad without a computer is pretty important.

Obviously for me, it's a non issue, since I sync way more often than is necessary, but I wonder how often that is for others and, indeed, most people?

I don't sync very often, but I probably should. I guess I just find it to be a hassle.

 

[UrokeJoe]

Picking mine up at 5:30 from FedEx, wasn't home when they tried to deliver. When I checked the status this morning it still said Friday by 4:30pm. Yay early!

 

[Marty Chinn]

I don't sync very often, but I probably should. I guess I just find it to be a hassle.

I think going with wireless syncing would make it a lot less of a hassle, but I wonder how many people would bother even then. Maybe automated wireless syncing might be nice so you don't even have to think about it.

 

[Burger]

But why do we automatically assume that this is good? Sales doesn't always mean quality or that things are good. Things could be extremely mediocre but still sell well. I'm not saying that the iPad is that, but the conclusions drawn are based on a false pretense. As many of you Mac fans should know, you thought OSX was vastly superior to Windows but if you're going by the numbers, Windows would look better based on that false pretense.

The iPad isn't great because it's selling well.

It's selling well because it's great.

 

[krypt0nian]

But why do we automatically assume that this is good? Sales doesn't always mean quality or that things are good. Things could be extremely mediocre but still sell well. I'm not saying that the iPad is that, but the conclusions drawn are based on a false pretense. As many of you Mac fans should know, you thought OSX was vastly superior to Windows but if you're going by the numbers, Windows would look better based on that false pretense.

Where is the mass outcry? I'd this was a major issue, once the hype died down and you were alone with our iPad for a while, the problems would be vocalized. With that many millions of something out in people's hands, it would be deafening. But instead you see articles posts etc saying how it fits into your life.

Example: the browser experience on the PS3 is terrible. This is a well known fact, and has been shouted from the highest mountain. When there are wide scale issues, consumers aren't quiet about them.

Word of mouth from the iPad 1 should have put a damper on iPad 2's launch if it were as terrible as some make it out to be.

 

[LyleLanley]

Is anyone else having trouble taking out the sim card from their ipad 2? No matter how hard I push the sim ejector tool it barely moves the sim card holder.

 

[commish]

But why do we automatically assume that this is good? Sales doesn't always mean quality or that things are good. Things could be extremely mediocre but still sell well. I'm not saying that the iPad is that, but the conclusions drawn are based on a false pretense. As many of you Mac fans should know, you thought OSX was vastly superior to Windows but if you're going by the numbers, Windows would look better based on that false pretense.

Hey, OSX isn't vastly superior to Windows, and this is coming from a mac guy.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Where is the mass outcry? I'd this was a major issue, once the hype died down and you were alone with our iPad for a while, the problems would be vocalized. With that many millions of something out in people's hands, it would be deafening. But instead you see articles posts etc saying how it fits into your life.

Example: the browser experience on the PS3 is terrible. This is a well known fact, and has been shouted from the highest mountain. When there are wide scale issues, consumers aren't quiet about them.

Word of mouth from the iPad 1 should have put a damper on iPad 2's launch if it were as terrible as some make it out to be.

Sorry but what? Go take a survey and most people won't give two shits about the PS3 browser. People complain about Flash and other issues all the time but it always gets downplayed as being such a vocal minority. I think the Flash thing is an annoyance at best. Would I like Flash? Sure because I would like 100% of the Internet, not 80 to 90%. Everytime it's brought up, it's dismissed as a troll, someone who hates Apple, or mocked for why would you go there, nobody goes there, or even a simple dismissal of it's not Apple's problem, contact the provider. Not to mention there really is no other option or competition at this point. The iPad is the best out there because it's practically the only thing out there aside from the Galaxy Tab, and the Xoom. Even the Xoom doesn't support Flash yet. Review sites mention Flash all the time too.

There's a difference between terrible and being mediocre with not knowing better. People buy mediocre products all the time or have mediocre experiences because they don't know better. I'm not explicitly saying this is the case with the iPad, but I'm merely pointing out it's using bad reasoning to make the conclusion. Again, using the Windows example, based on the way you conclude the iPad's quality and status, are you saying Windows is superior to OSX?

Hey, OSX isn't vastly superior to Windows, and this is coming from a mac guy.

And Windows isn't vastly superior to OSX either. They're a wash IMO, but the number of people out there who use it and sales of each OS would imply a different story. So I'm just saying just because a lot of people out there like something, doesn't automatically mean it's quality or there aren't issues.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Anyone know if apple stores or best buys are selling cases that cover the back? I don't care if it has smart cover tech or not.

Yah there's a faux leather Griffin case that does the job very well - covers front and back. When more 3rd parties come on board with cases I'll re-assess my current solution, but it's doing the job right now.

Fake edit: This thread has really gone down the crapper.

 

[commish]

Yah there's a faux leather Griffin case that does the job very well - covers front and back. When more 3rd parties come on board with cases I'll re-assess my current solution, but it's doing the job right now.

Fake edit: This thread has really gone down the crapper.

IIRC, iPad 1 thread wasn't much better at release. "What the fuck do I need an iPad for if I have a laptop?" "Is this just a big ipod touch?" etc etc

 

[Of All Trades]

1) Of course I don't hate it, but I can wrap my mind around the factoid that it's beyond the control of Apple.

If Apple is currently, for example, the largest music retailer in the US then it is not beyond their control. As gatekeepers of the App Store, allowing browsers that tell websites "I am a laptop" is not beyond their control.

2) What I don't understand is why you think making the iPad more like a XP 'Tablet Computer' is a good thing.

I don't think tablets should be desktops. I don't think tablets should act as upgraded iPhones.

3) Doesn't matter where they are then, as long as they are in iTunes.

iTunes is slow and unpleasant for me, and in my experience drastically worsens as you move away from music files.

4) Then plug your iPad into iTunes and click Sync. Or do it manually. It's easy, I'm sure you can find a tutorial at apple.com, or take it into a genius bar and get them to show you. Or get your mum to show you, I'm sure she's figured it out.

The point is that I don't want to have to use a PC to use my iPad for even basic functions.

 

[krypt0nian]

Sorry but what? Go take a survey and most people won't give two shits about the PS3 browser. People complain about Flash and other issues all the time but it always gets downplayed as being such a vocal minority. I think the Flash thing is an annoyance at best. Would I like Flash? Sure because I would like 100% of the Internet, not 80 to 90%. Everytime it's brought up, it's dismissed as a troll, someone who hates Apple, or mocked for why would you go there, nobody goes there, or even a simple dismissal of it's not Apple's problem, contact the provider. Not to mention there really is no other option or competition at this point. The iPad is the best out there because it's practically the only thing out there aside from the Galaxy Tab, and the Xoom. Even the Xoom doesn't support Flash yet. Review sites mention Flash all the time too.

There's a difference between terrible and being mediocre with not knowing better. People buy mediocre products all the time or have mediocre experiences because they don't know better. I'm not explicitly saying this is the case with the iPad, but I'm merely pointing out it's using bad reasoning to make the conclusion. Again, using the Windows example, based on the way you conclude the iPad's quality and status, are you saying Windows is superior to OSX?



And Windows isn't vastly superior to OSX either. They're a wash IMO, but the number of people out there who use it and sales of each OS would imply a different story. So I'm just saying just because a lot of people out there like something, doesn't automatically mean it's quality or there aren't issues.

If were talking surveys the latest I've seen show people ridiculously happy with Apple.

No one besides the vocal minority scream about Flash. I'm correct in saying that if there were major issues you would hear it everywhere and the word of mouth would have placed a damper on iPad 2’s launch.

Which never happened.

 

[Marty Chinn]

If were talking surveys the latest I've seen show people ridiculously happy with Apple.

No one besides the vocal minority scream about Flash. I'm correct in saying that if there were major issues you would hear it everywhere and the word of mouth would have placed a damper on iPad 2’s launch.

Which never happened.

Lots of people screamed about the antenna on the iPhone 4. Problem or not a problem? If you're about loud vocal, by your definition then it was a problem. We know Apple never fixed it. We also know it didn't hurt sales. Problems aren't always deal breakers. I have certain issues with the iPhone that I think are problems but that didn't stop me from upgrading from a 3G to a 4. I think it's just false conclusions that it's not an issue because it sells. The more realistic bottom line is that the iPad is a solid product, people love Apple for their solid products but also for their style and status, but let's not forget the fact that there really is no competition out there so there's really nothing to compare it to. Nothing is better. That doesn't mean it can't be better. It also doesn't mean people are ignorant either. How many people hooked up SD feeds to their brand new HDTV and thought they were now living in an HD world? Ignorance is sometimes bliss. Either way there's no way to make a conclusion based on simply pure sales or how hot a product is.

 

[Twilight Princess]

i have mixed feelings about the apps. for example, i want to find a decent note taking app. there are plenty of these in the app store, but none works well enough to replace paper and pen like my tablet + inkseine + onenote. so far i've looked at upad, noteplus, penultimate, note taker hd, sketchbook, 7notes, etc

 

[Of All Trades]

Where is the mass outcry? I'd this was a major issue, once the hype died down and you were alone with our iPad for a while, the problems would be vocalized. With that many millions of something out in people's hands, it would be deafening. But instead you see articles posts etc saying how it fits into your life.

Maybe people have been conditioned into accepting mediocrity? Lack of vision? Competing products with different failures drowning out the issue? Apple's marketing department? All of these at once?

The simple fact that almost every counter to "don't like the home screen" is something along the lines of "ugly widgets suicide clock" shows that you and others simply can't envision a better product.

Example: the browser experience on the PS3 is terrible. This is a well known fact, and has been shouted from the highest mountain. When there are wide scale issues, consumers aren't quiet about them.

Marty covered this.

Word of mouth from the iPad 1 should have put a damper on iPad 2's launch if it were as terrible as some make it out to be.

I think the real problem is that you (and this applies to a lot of GAF, particularly in games) can't conceive of someone actually finding something mediocre or average. It's either Best Ever or Eldritch Horror. I don't hate my iPad. I actually like it a lot, although I will continue to condition that with the price I paid for it. I just think there are a lot of things wrong with the product, some minor, some major, and clearly there are some people who just can't handle criticism of the product in any shape or form. Some of that is almost certainly due to paying well over $600 for even a base model+case.

 

[krypt0nian]

Lots of people screamed about the antenna on the iPhone 4. Problem or not a problem? If you're about loud vocal, by your definition then it was a problem. We know Apple never fixed it. We also know it didn't hurt sales. Problems aren't always deal breakers. I have certain issues with the iPhone that I think are problems but that didn't stop me from upgrading from a 3G to a 4. I think it's just false conclusions that it's not an issue because it sells. The more realistic bottom line is that the iPad is a solid product, people love Apple for their solid products but also for their style and status, but let's not forget the fact that there really is no competition out there so there's really nothing to compare it to. Nothing is better. That doesn't mean it can't be better. It also doesn't mean people are ignorant either. How many people hooked up SD feeds to their brand new HDTV and thought they were now living in an HD world? Ignorance is sometimes bliss. Either way there's no way to make a conclusion based on simply pure sales or how hot a product is.

That's the way you choose to see it.

 

[Burger]

If Apple is currently, for example, the largest music retailer in the US then it is not beyond their control. As gatekeepers of the App Store, allowing browsers that tell websites "I am a laptop" is not beyond their control.

iTunes is slow and unpleasant for me, and in my experience drastically worsens as you move away from music files.

It's not Apple's fault CBS/HBO/Whoever won't let you watch TV on your iPad. Literally nothing to do with them.

I'm not going to pretend that iTunes for PC isn't awful, but don't expect that sort of relationship between PC/iDevice to change in the near future. Although you never know with Apple, so I wont bet either way.

Apple recently started to call the iPad 'Post PC', so I'd expect them to slowly, but inexorably push in that direction.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Jesus Christ, there are two Marty Chinns now.

 

[Marty Chinn]

That's the way you choose to see it.

Maybe this is a better example, before the iPhone existed, there were phones out there praised to be amazing, and awesome and there was very little complaining. That is until we saw an iPhone and how it changed how we view smartphones today. It was just vastly superior and people partly out of ignorance didn't know any better. Only then did people start seeing the light. Just because those sold very well and nobody complained didn't mean they weren't mediocre and that there wasn't a lot of room for improvement. Sometimes people don't see or understand till they see the difference.

 

[Blackhead]

That's the way you choose to see it.

I think the great demand for Skyfire when it debuted on the AppStore indicates that lots of iPhone and iPad users want Flash.

 

[krypt0nian]

Jesus Christ, there are two Marty Chinns now.

I wasn't going to say it.

 

[Blackhead]

Are there better alternatives to iCircuit?

 

[Burger]

Maybe this is a better example, before the iPhone existed, there were phones out there praised to be amazing, and awesome and there was very little complaining. That is until we saw an iPhone and how it changed how we view smartphones today. It was just vastly superior and people partly out of ignorance didn't know any better. Only then did people start seeing the light. Just because those sold very well and nobody complained didn't mean they weren't mediocre and that there wasn't a lot of room for improvement. Sometimes people don't see or understand till they see the difference.

This is what I feel like when I have to read your posts:

 

[mrkgoo]

Jesus Christ, there are two Marty Chinns now.

So intense.

 

[neojubei]

Jesus Christ, there are two Marty Chinns now.

Seems like it.