Apple smartwatch conference - March 9th

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Who covers their watch with a blank face and only takes it off when they use it? It's a watch ffs, an always on display should be standard. Notice how Apple always advertises the watch with the display on instead of the blank slab it usually is

Well, nobody, because the technology hasn't been implemented before. If you can't see it, there's no point in having it on and wasting power is there?
 
Well, nobody, because the technology hasn't been implemented before. If you can't see it, there's no point in having it on and wasting power is there?
You can't see a watch on your wrist?! Get your peripheral vision checked. And it's not just for you, it's for everyone else to see as well.
 
You can't see a watch on your wrist?! Get your peripheral vision checked. And it's not just for you, it's for everyone else to see as well.

Are you high? The display is off when your arm is down. It lights up when you raise you arm to look at it. I don't know about you but I can't see my watch when my arm is down.
 
Are you high? The display is off when your arm is down. It lights up when you raise you arm to look at it. I don't know about you but I can't see my watch when my arm is down.

Everyone else can see your watchface when you arm is down (even if you can't see it). Otherwise guys would wear, or not wear, jewelry instead of a watch
 
Everyone else can see your watchface when you arm is down (even if you can't see it). Otherwise guys would wear, or not wear, jewelry instead of a watch

So what you're saying is that if you have any device that's a screen/consumes battery life out in public, it should always be on whether or not you're looking at it because other people might need to see the time.
 
Everyone else can see your watchface when you arm is down (even if you can't see it). Otherwise guys would wear, or not wear, jewelry instead of a watch

This is a very strange argument. I'd want the screen on at all times because turning on the screen only when your arm is raised will inevitably be more finicky than I'd like but I couldn't care less if some stranger happens to see my watch with the screen off.
 
Are you high? The display is off when your arm is down. It lights up when you raise you arm to look at it. I don't know about you but I can't see my watch when my arm is down.

What happens if I walk like this?

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This is a very strange argument. I'd want the screen on at all times because turning on the screen only when your arm is raised will inevitably be more finicky than I'd like but I couldn't care less if some stranger happens to see my watch with the screen off.

Exactly my thoughts on it. I don't give a damn what anyone else sees. As long as the motion of moving your wrist to your face is consistently recognised, that's fine.
 
So what you're saying is that if you have any device that's a screen/consumes battery life out in public, it should always be on whether or not you're looking at it because other people might need to see the time.

What I'm saying is that everybody else apart from Apple has been able to figure out to offer an always-on display or at least the option of one. If you want to turn off the watch face to eek out a couple more hours of battery life on a android wear device, that's your choice.
 
As a huge pebble fan... I never really get why pebble fans try to pick fights with android wear/apple watch.

If you are sold on apple watch advertisement, there is no way in hell you would buy the cheaper price/feel/look pebble.

Every single bulletpoint is on the complete opposite spectrum. (touch screen, no touch screen, low res screen, retina screen. touch screen, only tactile buttons, 1 day battery, 1 week battery, etc)
 
What I'm saying is that everybody else apart from Apple has been able to figure out to offer an always-on display or at least the option of one. If you want to turn off the watch face to eek out a couple more hours of battery life on a android wear device, that's your choice.

The Moto 360 doesn't have an always on option, and even if it did, leaving the screen on constantly destroys the battery life. It makes no sense.
 
The Moto 360 doesn't have an always on option, and even if it did, leaving the screen on constantly destroys the battery life. It makes no sense.

It does, kind of. Ambient display can be always on from the review I read while it pulses more on a G Watch like it does on phones.

That said, for a 6 or so hour hit on battery life, it wouldn't be worth it for me.
 
I am a huge fan of Apple products, have a lot of them, but this one is a really weak attempt in comparison to the competition. I think Apple Watch 2 might be the true first smart watch that they make that interests me. Right now Microsoft Band is more appealing to me.
 
Everyone else can see your watchface when you arm is down (even if you can't see it). Otherwise guys would wear, or not wear, jewelry instead of a watch

I'm really not following this logic.

The only thing I'm thinking is that you can't really "show off" your Apple Watch if the screen is turned off most of the time?
 
I'm really not following this logic.

The only thing I'm thinking is that you can't really "show off" your Apple Watch if the screen is turned off most of the time?

That's what I'm reading. The watchface is a key part of a watch. People aren't complimenting you about how nice your watch band is.

with the screen off its just a black box

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There is a reason why you don't see many images of smart watches with the screen off (same for smartphones).
 
That's what I'm reading. The watchface is a key part of a watch. People aren't complimenting you about how nice your watch band is.

with the screen off its just a black box

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There is a reason why you don't see many images of smart watches with the screen off (same for smartphones).

The whole concept is odd to me. Probably because I'd only wear a watch, smart or otherwise, for function rather than fashion.

I think Apple can get away with it though once it's recognised. You have an Apple thing on your arm! Fashion!
 
my Nike Fuelband broke after 2 years and going back to having to pull out my phone to check the time is quite a bit more of a hassle.

let alone the fact that you can't really discretely check the time on your 5 inch phone than just looking at your wrist.

I'm looking forward to what Apple has to offer. i wouldn't go for any model than the entry level sports watch, though.
 
The whole concept is odd to me. Probably because I'd only wear a watch, smart or otherwise, for function rather than fashion.

I think Apple can get away with it though once it's recognised. You have an Apple thing on your arm! Fashion!

That's what they are hedging their bet on for sure. Curious what the gender breakdown will be after a year for sales.

Besides the apple fanboys... I can't really see this being that hot for guys. Big or small... something about the chiclet shape doesn't scream dude watch.

but then I know shit little about fashion these days :P
 
The whole concept is odd to me. Probably because I'd only wear a watch, smart or otherwise, for function rather than fashion.

I think Apple can get away with it though once it's recognised. You have an Apple thing on your arm! Fashion!

I am sure it will have an apple logo on the band somewhere. Even with the screen off they will make it recognizable.
 
my Nike Fuelband broke after 2 years and going back to having to pull out my phone to check the time is quite a bit more of a hassle.

let alone the fact that you can't really discretely check the time on your 5 inch phone than just looking at your wrist.

I'm looking forward to what Apple has to offer. i wouldn't go for any model than the entry level sports watch, though.

You just described enjoying the function of a normal watch.
 
the iPhone doesn't have an Apple logo on the front either. The home button placement / shape + screen / bezel ratio has become somewhat 'iconic' for the product line.

I do believe they're hoping for the "digital crown" to be the design feature that makes the watch instantly recognizable.

You just described enjoying the function of a normal watch.

yeah, but being an avid runner and overall gadget geek, a regular watch just won't do for me.
 
the iPhone doesn't have an Apple logo on the front either. The home button placement / shape + screen / bezel ratio has become somewhat 'iconic' for the product line.

I do believe they're hoping for the "digital crown" to be the design feature that makes the watch instantly recognizable.



yeah, but being an avid runner and overall gadget geek, a regular watch just won't do for me.

The whole case is pretty recognizable right now, but not in a very sexy way.
 
the iPhone doesn't have an Apple logo on the front either. The home button placement / shape + screen / bezel ratio has become somewhat 'iconic' for the product line.

ehhh not really. the backside and ios is. Every smartphone looks the same on the front these days at a glance.
 
the iPhone doesn't have an Apple logo on the front either. The home button placement / shape + screen / bezel ratio has become somewhat 'iconic' for the product line.

I do believe they're hoping for the "digital crown" to be the design feature that makes the watch instantly recognizable.

No but it has always had one on the back which people always see when you are using your phone. Also there is a reason so many cases make sure the apple logo is still visible through the case.
 
and the apple watch design isn't that distinct compare to the competition. Can you at a glance tell the difference between the apple watch and like a zen watch or any other squarish android watch?

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Unless you specifically look for the dial on the side, you probably can't (and I expect samsung or other places to rip that off in a year or 2)
 
Having switched back to my 5S from a Nexus 6, I'm genuinely excited to see how this turns out. Android Wear was mostly great from the time I had with it, but a little too half-baked for my tastes in certain areas.

And as others have said, even if you are firmly on Team Green, this is going to be a product to watch (nyuk nyuk). We are in the baby stages of wearables, and competition is going to drive the kind of refinements these products need.
 
It's not that they can't make a recognisable design. It's that the for all the talk of this being "the most personal device" they ever created, the black screen doesn't really lend itself to that. The only thing that will distinguish people from each other is the bands (I doubt people will be able to tell the difference between the aluminium finish or the stainless steel from across a train carriage, for instance).

The phone was never a fashion accessory so I don't think it's the same thing.

I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here. I actually don't think it's that big of a deal.
 
I stopped wearing watches and haven't worn one in years. Better part of a decade. I don't see myself ever wanting to wear one again. This use of tech seems backwards to me.
 
It's not that they can't make a recognisable design. It's that the for all the talk of this being "the most personal device" they ever created, the black screen doesn't really lend itself to that. The only thing that will distinguish people from each other is the bands (I doubt people will be able to tell the difference between the aluminium finish or the stainless steel from across a train carriage, for instance).

The phone was never a fashion accessory so I don't think it's the same thing.

I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here. I actually don't think it's that big of a deal.

I read "the most personal device" thing as "this device is literally attached to my body", not "this device is made of my favorite color".
 
I stopped wearing watches and haven't worn one in years. Better part of a decade. I don't see myself ever wanting to wear one again. This use of tech seems backwards to me.

I don't use a watch, but pulling my phone out of pocket just to check the time, seems more backward.
 
I read "the most personal device" thing as "this device is literally attached to my body", not "this device is made of my favorite color".

No, you're right. I think the tagline was linked to HealthKit.

When they announced the different finishes/sizes, though, they did talk about how a fashion accessory like a watch needs to be unique to fit different people's styles. I can see why someone might think that not always having arguably the most distinctive feature of a watch (the face) could be detrimental to the popularity of smartwatches as a fashion accessory.

Personally, I see them as a new category entirely. I don't think the smartwatch (with its current limited feature set anyway) will displace regular watches any more than a smartphone already did for most people.
 
and the apple watch design isn't that distinct compare to the competition. Can you at a glance tell the difference between the apple watch and like a zen watch or any other squarish android watch?

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Unless you specifically look for the dial on the side, you probably can't (and I expect samsung or other places to rip that off in a year or 2)

My first impression there is wow that strap looks cheap/terrible. :D

The iPhone is also pretty nondescript especially if it's in a case. You could say the iPad doesn't look that different from most other tablets. What's more likely after the Apple Watch launches are people assuming the smartwatch on your wrist is an Apple Watch in a similar way to those who don't know might assume a smartphone is an iPhone or a tablet is an iPad. :) I mean, I can't tell a Rolex from a Tag Heuer from a Timex either so is that hugely important?
 
No, you're right. I think the tagline was linked to HealthKit.

When they announced the different finishes/sizes, though, they did talk about how a fashion accessory like a watch needs to be unique to fit different people's styles. I can why someone might think that not always having arguably the most distinctive feature of a watch (the face) could be detrimental to their popularity of smartwatches as a fashion accessory.

Personally, I see them as a new category entirely. I don't think the smartwatch (with its current limited feature set anyway) will displace regular watches any more than a smartphone already did for most people.

Eh, I think the version I like more is the sport space gray + black sport band. When turned off is unobtrusive as fuck.
 
ehhh not really. the backside and ios is. Every smartphone looks the same on the front these days at a glance.

eeeh, i disagree.

There's a non-functional, but design-reason, why Apple refrains from eliminiating the bezel on the top and bottom of the phone.

the round home button is part of their design language.

the round home button is clearly used as a main design feature of their iDevices.

It's the entire reason to put that (some might say tacky) shiny metal ring around the TouchID sensor - to emphasise the circular home button even more.

it's the one unifying design feature of their iDevice lineup and it's something that stands out from the competition as they have all now gone for either slimmer bezels or software buttons altogether.

That's why they're trying so hard giving their little spinny dial some kind of weird "identity" - 'the digital crown'!
it's meant to be as iconic in design as the click wheel or the home button. That's why it's als off-center, imho.

they don't even show a full, not cut off watch body in any of these pics, yet there's one that's ENTIRELY a closeup of the digital crown.
 
I missed this thread. Apologies for making another one.

I have been waiting for the iWatch for too long. Been holding off on a FitBit for this product. Can't wait for the reveal.
 
Looks like another nice device for people that want to wear a screen on their wrist instead of something that resembles an actual watch. Motorola and LG are the only companies out there on the right track (but still not quite there).
 
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