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[entremet]

I like this MacOS update a lot. Never got the gradients hate.

 

[TTOOLL]

Oh boy, here we go! Bye, Intel!

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Oh shit... architecture changes incoming.

 

[entremet]

Intel has been a huge bottleneck. They had many years, but let themselves get lapped.

 

[TTOOLL]

I can see people crying from miles away. This is HUGE.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Hopefully Office apps will finally not run like shit on Mac?

I won't hold my breath .

 

[Deleted member 1159]

I shattered the camera lens on my XS last week, any word on when my upgrade is coming or is that a later event?

 

[entremet]

Hopefully Office apps will finally not run like shit on Mac?

I won't hold my breath .

I'm a subscriber to O365. It's pretty good on the Mac. The only big issue is Excel and that's with big sheets and macros. Excel just never worked well on Macs.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I shattered the camera lens on my XS last week, any word on when my upgrade is coming or is that a later event?

iPhones will likely be September.

 

[TTOOLL]

Hopefully Office apps will finally not run like shit on Mac?

I won't hold my breath .

I used them everyday and I think they run great, no? Am I missing anything?

 

[Deleted member 17706]

They run great for you all? Resizing windows is choppy as hell, and as entremet pointed out, Excel can get really laggy. Outlook often bogs down and requires restarting for me, too. It's just not nearly as snappy as the Windows versions I also use (both Office 365, so latest versions).

This is coming from an i9 16" MacBook Pro with 32GB of RAM, too... Maybe I'm just picky, but the performance is clearly worse than other native apps for me.

 

[EviLore]

That Adobe performance looked great.

 

[EviLore]

Re: Tomb Raider, that’s in emulation? Not bad at all.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Looks like they got this shit figured out pretty well.

 

[TTOOLL]

Their mobile chips are phenomenal. We finally have a third player, let's see how things are gonna play out. I'm looking forward to see real world tests and benchmarks.

 

[SentientStone]

Will get a new Mac in a few years once the app transition to the new chips matures.

 

[entremet]

Best keynote in a while. I'm surprised ppl thought they would show hardware. It's a developer conference.

 

[TTOOLL]

Will get a new Mac in a few years once the app transition to the new chips matures.

I was planning to upgrade in 2 years maybe, but since I don't use any third party apps I think I'll be good.

 

[Ovek]

Best keynote in a while. I'm surprised ppl thought they would show hardware. It's a developer conference.

They sort of did the Apple CPU dev "accelerator kit" is a new mac Mini

 

[Meicyn]

Since Logic and FCPX are native to ARM now, I hope they’re coming to iPadOS sooner than later.

 

[EviLore]

I’m sure the transition will still be somewhat painful, but PowerPC this is not. Looks like the right move for them long term.

 

[entremet]

I’m sure the transition will still be somewhat painful, but PowerPC this is not. Looks like the right move for them long term.

The Apple Silicon VP is also a very competent executive apparently.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

They said they planned to have consumer models using the Apple chipsets this year, right? Excited to see some performance comparisons.

 

[EviLore]

They said they planned to have consumer models using the Apple chipsets this year, right? Excited to see some performance comparisons.

Yup, by the end of the year.

 

[TTOOLL]

I’m sure the transition will still be somewhat painful, but PowerPC this is not. Looks like the right move for them long term.

It makes total sense for them to ditch Intel. As long as they provide a smooth transition for professionals most people will be ok, everything is pretty much all web-based nowadays. I have Office and maybe other 5 apps installed today, Spotify, Telegram, WhatsApp and can't really remember any other app I use frequently.

 

[Anki]

Very good keynote, much better then previous live ones.

 

[LordCBH]

I am beyond excited for apples new macs with their own chips. I can’t wait to get hands on.

 

[Chittagong]

Very strong show today. Lots of fundamental tech.

CarKey, App Clips, Safari, Apple Silicon, new MacOS look, Translate.

Also iOS widgets FINALLY

 

[SentientStone]

I was planning to upgrade in 2 years maybe, but since I don't use any third party apps I think I'll be good.

I am still fine with my early 2015 MBP and no desktop since currently I only browse the Web and do light media editing.
I am definitely behind the curve in regards to technology though, perhaps I should get an Apple Watch first.

 

[LordCBH]

Also, fucking Version 11 for macOS. DAMN. Never thought we’d leave version 10.

 

[TTOOLL]

Also, fucking Version 11 for macOS. DAMN. Never thought we’d leave version 10.

11 only? They should've gone for 14.

 

[decisions]

Re: Tomb Raider, that’s in emulation? Not bad at all.

The fact that everything was done on an A12Z is awesome. Confident the Macs with new chips will do great.

 

[dottme]

The fact that everything was done on an A12Z is awesome. Confident the Macs with new chips will do great.

And it looks like the Mac can run the IPad software, this is looking good.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I think it's great they finally allow freedom to set default browser and email defaults but it's a shame they don't allow people to have real chrome or real firefox, it's all running on webkit and thus the extension ecosystem of each browser gets shafted.

 

[DrNeroCF]

Transitioning to ARM obviously makes the most sense for laptops, Mac Mini, iMac... but I’m really interested in seeing how much power they can get out of an ARM chip with desktop cooling. Are they going more cores with lower clockspeeds? Are there any high powered ARM servers that we can look at for reference?

 

[Chittagong]

Love Big Sur look except the icons look shit. Drop shadows and bevels everywhere, skeuomorph throwback. I do not understand why not stick with the iOS icons.

Also hilarious how the word ARM seemed like as much a dirty word as GAF is at some forums.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I don't give a shit about Apple going to ARM for their my little pony linux OS. But that Foundation Trailer was fucking TIGHT!!!!

 

[jts]

I like this a lot, but seriously I hope it means one thing as well. Put some fucking touchscreens on Macs already.

 

[Blond]

Man, I wish these arm processors would come to surface pro X, that tablet is 100% for my needs.

 

[Jon Canon]

I am very curious about the price impact. Intel must be the most expensive part in the current macs.

So that would mean either cheaper macs or smartphone like margins on every sale.

Tim plz.

 

[Blond]

I am very curious about the price impact. Intel must be the most expensive part in the current macs.

So that would mean either cheaper macs or smartphone like margins on every sale.

Tim plz.

I think we found the answer lol.

Also, new iOS is 100% everything that would pull me away from android except I STILL need software to put media on it. Yes, I still put music and videos (largely all my training videos so I don't have to use the TV) and would prefer to not use iTunes anymore, like at all, but they have everything else I want. Maybe next year?

 

[Coolwhhip]

Those Apple presenters all have that creepy cult smile when they talk.

 

[EviLore]

Those Apple presenters all have that creepy cult smile when they talk.

It’s the Apple stock options smile.

 

[entremet]

Love Big Sur look except the icons look shit. Drop shadows and bevels everywhere, skeuomorph throwback. I do not understand why not stick with the iOS icons.

Also hilarious how the word ARM seemed like as much a dirty word as GAF is at some forums.

It's just Apple marketing. They are master at this stuff lol.

 

[jts]

Love Big Sur look except the icons look shit. Drop shadows and bevels everywhere, skeuomorph throwback. I do not understand why not stick with the iOS icons.

Also hilarious how the word ARM seemed like as much a dirty word as GAF is at some forums.

Architecture-wise, the move to Intel was a move to x86/x64, but Apple always just mentioned it by the chip vendor Intel even though they could have as well used AMD during that now-ending period. So it is consistent that they mention the new chips by vendor (which is themselves lol) rather than the architecture.

 

[Chittagong]

Architecture-wise, the move to Intel was a move to x86/x64, but Apple always just mentioned it by the chip vendor Intel even though they could have as well used AMD during that now-ending period. So it is consistent that they mention the new chips by vendor (which is themselves lol) rather than the architecture.

That weirdly makes sense. Hmm.

 

[Rentahamster]

How does this architecture change affect upgradeability and pricing?

 

[entremet]

How does this architecture change affect upgradeability and pricing?

It should be cheaper due to vertical integration. However, I doubt Apple will pass off the cost savings to the consumer lol. Apple loves high margins.

 

[Rentahamster]

It should be cheaper due to vertical integration. However, I doubt Apple will pass off the cost savings to the consumer lol. Apple loves high margins.

They do indeed. Is it known yet how well it will play with off the shelf parts?

 

[entremet]

They do indeed. Is it known yet how well it will play with off the shelf parts?

Hard to say rn. Especially since new drivers will be needed obvs.