Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

So, got an offer from a company that wants a 2 month trial period as an hourly contractor.

Both my past gigs were salaried, so this is new to me. I feel like I'm going to accept it because money, but I believe I should keep looking. Do I even put this on my resume?
Do you have income coming in or are you jobless?
 
So, got an offer from a company that wants a 2 month trial period as an hourly contractor.

Both my past gigs were salaried, so this is new to me. I feel like I'm going to accept it because money, but I believe I should keep looking. Do I even put this on my resume?

I wouldn't. Some employers may think its shady to keep looking after starting a new job, but you're doing the right thing.
 
I'm in a similar position, temp-to-hire at the local opera company, so i've had two interviews since i started the temp side of it.

Second interview's out of the way and now i'm nervous, there haven't been any good jobs coming up on local listings lately, so if they pass and the opera does, it's back to the drawing board.

Three people interviewed me at the other place, a nice charity over on another side of town. Two of them asked me whether i would be bored on the job, code for "you're probably overqualified." I think i gave them the right answer, though, because it would be a new position and i'd have challenges in terms of setting things up.

They'll call back next week, fingers crossed.
 
Yeah me being jobless is a big part a left out there. Woops.

Take it. This is the new way people get hired. If you're good and they like you then they'll keep you. They're just trying to avoid hiring a slug and then having to go through months and years of giving you negative reviews to justify getting rid of you.
 
Take it. This is the new way people get hired. If you're good and they like you then they'll keep you. They're just trying to avoid hiring a slug and then having to go through months and years of giving you negative reviews to justify getting rid of you.

Seconded this. If you need the money take it. You can always keep applying while you work at this gig if you're not feeling it.

You're more attractive to employers with a job.
 
Seconded this. If you need the money take it. You can always keep applying while you work at this gig if you're not feeling it.

You're more attractive to employers with a job.

Yea, my recent job I got on Feb helped me. I tried applying to others while on a current job and more attention is held.
 
My gf is looking for a job and a few things happened lately...

1- she was interviewed for a position, then after two weeks they called her for a second interview with the manager for the next morning. Ok. next morning, she is preparing to go for the meeting, and they call again saying that she doesn't need to come because they already found someone for the job.

2- she applied for a job, after a few days she got a call, they talked about the position, even discussed salary expectation, scheduled a interview in the next day. So, she goes there, they gave her some paper where she should fill info about her CV (?), asking where she looks for jobs (sites/linkedin/etc), and stuff like that. Then the interviewer come, talk to her about the company (explain that they connect companies and potential candidates bla bla bla). Then... that is it. She was like, 'oh, but you called me about one position yesterday, how is it? weren't we supposed to talk about it?', and they answered 'oh, you are not eligible for that position, it needs spanish language knowledge'. She gets pissed off (from the inside) and went home.

wtf? the first case is not that bad, but I still see lack of professionalism. it took them 2 weeks to make the second contact, so it is really wierd that they hire someone 'on a hurry' and cancel one interview that was scheduled for the very next day.

but the second case. oh my god. they called her for one specific position. they talked the whole time in english and her cv also states that she doesnt speak spanish (we live in Spain), they even DISCUSSED SALARY briefly, talked about lenght of the contract, other opportunities after the contract would end... she ofc got excited with the interview, went there and then, she was there for absolutely nothing! they just registered her and gave her their site where 'she can take a look at other positions' (btw the registration could also be made through the internet!) and didn't even mention the position that was the actual reason (or should be) that she was there! And gave a shity excuse 'oh, you dont speak spanish'. wtf. they knew it from the beginning.

it sure is soul-crushing. what a lack of professionalism.
 
Been working as a bookkeeper at a small restaurant consulting and bookkeeping group as of October 2015, but the pay is horrible ($30k a year), and I'd rather work for a large company. I'm still working towards my CPA though, gotta finish my PREP courses first. :/ Applying to jobs at the moment, but I'm not really expecting responses from the places I want to work at. Guess I'll just keep steadily applying and hoping for a better gig.
 
Yeah, you got to keep booking it out there, though I would love a 30K job right now. I make about $75-80 a week.

I have an interview on Monday for a Grad Assistant job at a college. They want me to make an outline for topics to discuss in an orientation for new tutors. I have no clue where to start.
 
I asked earlier but didnt get a reponse i dont think....can anyone share their experiences with temp agencies? Ive literally given my info to 4 different ones in the past two days
 
Yeah, you got to keep booking it out there, though I would love a 30K job right now. I make about $75-80 a week.

I have an interview on Monday for a Grad Assistant job at a college. They want me to make an outline for topics to discuss in an orientation for new tutors. I have no clue where to start.


Not too sound sarcastic but have you googled orientation templates? You can flat out steal some and/or just use examples to jump start yours
 
So an update for my job. On Monday, I found out a few things. One, they jumped the gun like crazy and thought I was ready, but apparently, not every person that should of been involved on both sides even knew any of this. Two, I applied for a Help Desk Level 1 job, but they felt after hiring me that I am overqualified for it. However, there is a Help Desk Level 2/3 job coming in the next few weeks. I agreed on starting the Level 1 job and then sliding into the Level 2/3 when it opens. Now I'm just waiting on when the fuck I start and if we can even do this in the way that I'm thinking.
 
I asked earlier but didnt get a reponse i dont think....can anyone share their experiences with temp agencies? Ive literally given my info to 4 different ones in the past two days
Depends on what they want from you.

Just because they make contact doesn't mean that they'll get you hired. It is useful once in a while though, because they're theoretically looking for places to put you so that they can make a profit.
 
About a month ago I applied for a job that seemed super perfect for me, as if they had read my resume and built the job around it. So I applied, and after a week, got a response back:
We have reviewed your background and qualifications and have found that we do not have an appropriate match for this role at this time.
Of course I was not only disappointed, but kinda pissed - this was a job where the listing was basically asking for me! Their qualifications were my job history and skills. How could they not find me an appropriate match?

Fast-forward to today. I discovered a former coworker now worked for that company, he was saying they had openings, so I asked him to hook me up with a position there (he didn't know I had applied there before). The position he forwarded me (using JobVite) was that exact position - it was still open, and my contact said that sounded perfect for me. Well, I of course re-applied (I do have a better layout for my resume and cover letter now than when I first applied).

Here's my question: was it a waste of time for me to apply for the same job again after being turned down before? Was it bad for my contact that I did so with his name now attached?
 
First time poster, I've been going at it for about two and a half months now in my last semester as an undergrad in accounting.
It's really depressing to hear that many of my classmates of the same major and graduating class are landing full-time positions at public accounting firms or even entry level positions that pay fairly well
and I'm still working part-time at a fast-casual restaurant struggling to get interviews.
I know I should keep my head high and keep going at it, and I'm that type of person in general, but when all you hear is that someone is better than you in the form of a label swapped email, it's...exhausting and soul crushing. :/
/endrant
 
Yup it is.

I've been working at a financial institution as a temp for 9 months now and seeing new people with the same qualification as yours appointed as permanent staff does make you question about yourself.

All in all good luck to all and never give up. *fist bump*
 
Got an offer from the interview yesterday. Smack at the low end of my hiring range, though. I want to see if i can inquire about building in a promise for a raise the next year. Lol, my current boss actually helped me figure out how to phrase that ask, she's interviewing someone else for the job i have now later today.

I'll call them back in a couple of hours to pick it up and take what they'll give me, and i'm a little nervous and not excited yet. But man, i finally made it.
 
About a month ago I applied for a job that seemed super perfect for me, as if they had read my resume and built the job around it. So I applied, and after a week, got a response back:

Of course I was not only disappointed, but kinda pissed - this was a job where the listing was basically asking for me! Their qualifications were my job history and skills. How could they not find me an appropriate match?

Fast-forward to today. I discovered a former coworker now worked for that company, he was saying they had openings, so I asked him to hook me up with a position there (he didn't know I had applied there before). The position he forwarded me (using JobVite) was that exact position - it was still open, and my contact said that sounded perfect for me. Well, I of course re-applied (I do have a better layout for my resume and cover letter now than when I first applied).

Here's my question: was it a waste of time for me to apply for the same job again after being turned down before? Was it bad for my contact that I did so with his name now attached?

Why not? What's the worse that can happen? They reject you. That's the part of the job hunting game.
 
Just had a phone interview for an internship. I'm primarily looking for full-time work, but I definitely need experience in the field I'm going to school for. The interview ended up being 45 minutes instead of 30 since we just kept talking, so hopefully that's a good sign.

How long should I wait to send a thank you email? Until later this afternoon?
 
Just had a phone interview for an internship. I'm primarily looking for full-time work, but I definitely need experience in the field I'm going to school for. The interview ended up being 45 minutes instead of 30 since we just kept talking, so hopefully that's a good sign.

How long should I wait to send a thank you email? Until later this afternoon?

That day is good. Don't wait more than a day. I've sent them minutes after since we all have smartphones now.
 
What are people's opinions on postgraduate certificates?

I graduated with a BA in Psych, but obviously I can't really find a job. I was thinking of maybe going to a college (I think people in the US call it a community college) for a postgraduate program.

I was looking at maybe HR or Management. The best programs I saw were one year long (2 semesters of classes and 1 semester of coop). For clarification, this is from accredited institutions, like George Brown College in Toronto.

However, you don't get a degree or diploma. You get this thing called a postgraduate certificate.

Will companies look at that and just write it off as being useless?
 
What are my options in my situation:

I have a job, it doesn't pay great but is better than nothing. The problem is that I need more money, but all the jobs I've looked that pay better need way more experience than what I have. That, or I find jobs that pay better and I have the qualifications but are in other city(I'm not moving cities)


So, the questions could be: How do I get higher paying jobs if you don't have the experience they ask? Should I be looking at a second job instead, while at the same time looking for a good offer?
 
Fuck man this reminds me of my job searching period after grad school which lasted for like six months because I was solely focused on this one job which I was sure of I was gonna get (of course ended up not getting it and had to start looking from scratch) and it was the fucking worst.

Hang in there folks, shit's the same all across the globe.
 
What are my options in my situation:

I have a job, it doesn't pay great but is better than nothing. The problem is that I need more money, but all the jobs I've looked that pay better need way more experience than what I have. That, or I find jobs that pay better and I have the qualifications but are in other city(I'm not moving cities)


So, the questions could be: How do I get higher paying jobs if you don't have the experience they ask? Should I be looking at a second job instead, while at the same time looking for a good offer?

-Take more responsibility at work
-Learn to play the political game.
-Learn new skills via Udemy, Code School, Code Academy, Lynda.com
-Try to make your boss look good. Give him or her credit. Help them get promoted. Because if they get promoted and you helped, you will be coming up with them. Not 100 percent obviously.
-Speak up at meetings
-Help the company save or make money.

Basically you get what you deserve. The corporate world is not a meritocracy completely, but you need to learn to play the game to progress. You need to learn to look out for yourself, but oddly you can only do that if you look after your coworkers, boss, and company.

You want to avoid passivity. You have the internet, GAF, Youtube, LinkedIN and tons of resources to improve your career skills. Just take it slowly and focus on a target.
 
I asked earlier but didnt get a reponse i dont think....can anyone share their experiences with temp agencies? Ive literally given my info to 4 different ones in the past two days

The thing to remember with temp agencies is that they spend at least 2/3rds of their time working with companies to get jobs to fill and the rest looking for candidates. That's their revenue stream so its the focus. If there is a job you want to be considered for you have to go hard to get their attention. If you have the recruiter's phone number call them multiple times a day until they pick up. Don't leave messages because they won't get listened to but phone calls and repeated emails are the way to go. Even if you don't get that job it will stick in their mind and improve your chances later on.
 
No Google, it wasn't a trick question, maybe it was a poorly worded question. I suppose that my question was more about changing careers I guess. Let's say that I don't know cobol and that my job doesn't use, and all the decent paying jobs require 2 years of cobol. Doing courses online will help in this case even when I don't have work experience?

I'm guessing no, in that case I will have to keep looking and sharpening my skills.

@entremet: "you get what you deserve" ouch, right in the feels bro T_T

Thanks guys, you make good points, I will take this weekend to think about all this.
 
Not too sound sarcastic but have you googled orientation templates? You can flat out steal some and/or just use examples to jump start yours

Thanks. I actually wasn't thinking of the obvious. I have now, but I'm unsure of what program I should use to create this? I want to go with a word document since I have to print this and that's less money I'd have to pay for over a presentation. Not sure if I should make it fancy looking or not either.
 
Had an interview today that I think went well... although the last three times I've said that I didn't get the job. I REALLY hope this one goes through though since it's right down the street and I can save money by walking to work.
 
Anyone dumb down their resume on purpose and have success?

i have two college degrees. a BS in engineering and an AA in liberal arts.

i'm still looking for an engineering gig that suits me but i also need a low level temp job (customer service, call center, data entry) for income. i think people look at my engineering degree and think "why the hell would you want to do this low level job?" and they won't even give me a chance.

so i will only have my AA in liberal arts degree in my resume.
 
I gave in and took my first ever contractor/Tech staffing job.

Ups and downs...

$25 an hour, OT is first 4 hours time and a half, anything after 4 hours is double time.
I really don't do anything. Babysit equipment, log results from simple test I perform every few hours, eat and sleep.

Downside is...shift work, and the crazy kind. One weekend off a month, sometimes 6 or 7 on and 3 or 4 off. Every week a different shift.

Plus I filled the last open position all the company guys were making big OT off of filling.
Already heard a comment on how management brought in us contractors to screw them over on OT.

Have to pull a year and not fuck up for a permanent spot. Should come with a $5-10 increase. It's gonna be a bitch tho trying to be Mr. Perfect for the next 11 months.
Guy they hired before me was contracted to and got the job after his year. But he's got years ahead of my in experience and is by far the most uptight, by the book, meticulous SOB I've ever met.
I had to work side by side with him last week as a training thing on 3rd shift and he was giving me shit about punctuation in my log book while I'm in zombie mode at 4am.
 
I just had an interesting interview the other day. A friend of mine gave my resume to a previous co-worker of his for an opening at the engineering company he works for.

I went in having read over my practice interview notes several times (my mind goes blank during interviews) and ended up not even needing them. It was as if the interviewer already planned on hiring me. We spent a few minutes going over my resume/skills/what I'm interested in, and then about an hour and forty-five minutes going over the benefits package and the company. That's it.

I'm still pretty new to the field, but that was one of the easiest interviews I've had. Now I just have to wait and see if they send me an offer.
 
Anyone dumb down their resume on purpose and have success?

i have two college degrees. a BS in engineering and an AA in liberal arts.

i'm still looking for an engineering gig that suits me but i also need a low level temp job (customer service, call center, data entry) for income. i think people look at my engineering degree and think "why the hell would you want to do this low level job?" and they won't even give me a chance.

so i will only have my AA in liberal arts degree in my resume.

It should not hurt you since you're presumably just out of college, right?

It starts hurting you when you have tons of experience. Keep it on.

Underemployment is very common for this generation sadly. Just hustle and don't give on your dream. We all need money.
 
Bad week on the employment front.

Facebook acquaintance makes self-congratulatory Facebook announcement thanking me for helping him get job I applied for. I get to savor the crushing defeat and receive Facebook notifications every time someone else offers him well wishes.

Will start afresh on Moansday.
 
^Goddamn that sucks. "Hey thanks for the job sucker!"

In good news, when it rains it pours brehs. My aunt of all people maybe be able to get me on a job with DOUBLE the salary I'm getting now. Its a contract position, but that's just how people get hired now, and I know plenty of people there started out in contract positions. Gonna know more next week.
 
Thanks. I actually wasn't thinking of the obvious. I have now, but I'm unsure of what program I should use to create this? I want to go with a word document since I have to print this and that's less money I'd have to pay for over a presentation. Not sure if I should make it fancy looking or not either.


Always consider your audience. Its for new tutors, but is it general tutors or something specialized for tutors? College seniors or seasoned professionals?

Basically, design it like thise tutors are already your customers/employees.
 
I'm not having fun here. I fucking hate this shit.

"Company A": Interviewed for them a few weeks ago, they actually reached out to me via LinkedIn, and it wasn't just a generic "send everyone messages!" thing, they are a fairly small company. Interview went well, they took me to lunch. I heard from them about a week later and they said the next step would be to send me a programming test. They sent me the tests, I had some issues, but I did it, sent it in, and they said next would be to bring me into the office to explain my code/review it with them. That was scheduled. TWO HOURS before it was supposed to happen, I get a call from them saying "You probably saw an appointment cancellation in your inbox, some stuff came up today and we have to reschedule. We will look at all the candidates and send out more tests accordingly." Are you fucking kidding me? I was prepared for that review, I wrote notes and everything! I'm supposed to hear from them again tomorrow or Tuesday.

"Company B": Interviewed with them even more recently, said I would hear within a day or two. They told me they only brought in two candidates, one of which was me, so statistically I have a 50/50 chance of getting it. I would rather work for Company A, but if only Company B offers I will take it. I called three days after the interview, recruiter said she hasn't hear anything yet and will get back to me. Hopefully that is tomorrow too.

I'm very frustrated. 90% of close calls I have had with getting a job fell through because of "lol we are looking for a senior programmer now" or "lol we need a PHP developer" or just silence. This is after going through multiple interviews, being so close.
 
Man, I'm really worried. I've been working in a job outside my field for almost a year now. I don't plan on staying there but I haven't gotten any good offers yet. I'm afraid this will really hurt my future prospects.

I'm very frustrated. 90% of close calls I have had with getting a job fell through because of "lol we are looking for a senior programmer now" or "lol we need a PHP developer" or just silence. This is after going through multiple interviews, being so close.

Hope things work out well for you. That sounds like hell.
 
I'm very frustrated. 90% of close calls I have had with getting a job fell through because of "lol we are looking for a senior programmer now" or "lol we need a PHP developer" or just silence. This is after going through multiple interviews, being so close.

Same here. It sucks hard. I really want to get back to working asap.
 
I think I fucked up today. Had the interview at my old school and I was fumbling over my words. I did fine in practice over the weekend, but for some reason just fucked up during the actual thing. I'm also tired of people never reading my resume. I got asked again if I was in school.
 
I think I fucked up today. Had the interview at my old school and I was fumbling over my words. I did fine in practice over the weekend, but for some reason just fucked up during the actual thing. I'm also tired of people never reading my resume. I got asked again if I was in school.

Don't over rehearse.

You want to sound natural, like you're having a conversation. Stick to 3-5 main points--biggest career wins, challenges overcome, strengths, and work anecdotes that illustrate those.
 
Had an interview today that I think went well... although the last three times I've said that I didn't get the job. I REALLY hope this one goes through though since it's right down the street and I can save money by walking to work.
Maybe I should stop posting about how I feel about my interviews going well because I keep getting rejected after them.

I really did think I had hit it off this time :( The interviewer even liked my degree and we had a natural conversation more than an interview...
 
I'm not suicidal, but I could understand why people can be sometimes.

I had an interview a few weeks ago that went well. They sent me a coding test, I did the test, sent it in, they schedule me for a code review in their office. I prepared for it the night before, wrote notes and everything. Two hours before the code review, they call me saying it's cancelled because "something came up".

Now I got an email today saying they are "moving in a different direction"

THEY TOOK AWAY MY FUCKING CHANCE BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENED, WHAT THE FUCK
 
I think I fucked up today. Had the interview at my old school and I was fumbling over my words. I did fine in practice over the weekend, but for some reason just fucked up during the actual thing. I'm also tired of people never reading my resume. I got asked again if I was in school.

Oh yea, it's really annoying when you get the impression they didn't put in the work and actually read your resume...
 
I'm not suicidal, but I could understand why people can be sometimes.

I had an interview a few weeks ago that went well. They sent me a coding test, I did the test, sent it in, they schedule me for a code review in their office. I prepared for it the night before, wrote notes and everything. Two hours before the code review, they call me saying it's cancelled because "something came up".

Now I got an email today saying they are "moving in a different direction"

THEY TOOK AWAY MY FUCKING CHANCE BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENED, WHAT THE FUCK
Life is awful that way.

/me pats you on the back


The best way to get hired or even to truly be considered for a job is through a connection within the company. If you're doing some coding, you should start going to local tech meetups, get some people to be friends with, and hopefully start a little network.


And have good luck!
 
At the end of this month it will be two months I was at home, job hunting.
Great news today! Going to new job from May! Yay!

Coffee and Dirt Rally nights ahead!
 
I was thinking about asking this in a new thread but you guys are very knowledgeable and I think you'd be able to help me out. I've been done with classes now for a year, spent the last year searching for an internship to fulfill a degree requirement and I'll be receiving my degree in May. Currently still in the internship, started in February. Now, I'm gonna apply to a local gov't entry level position in my field (GIS Analyst I), but I'm nervous as all get out about the whole thing. First off, they say they'd like 2 years of experience with GIS software. Now, including classes and my internship I'd say I have about a year and a half, maybe two. I'm not as worried about the experience thing as it is an entry level position and as such, I feel I'd learn a lot in the job.

What I'm worried about is when job descriptions mention certain things that I really have no familiarity with. In my curriculum, I didn't learn any programming nor did I learn about server stuff (like MySQL), which apparently are a big part of GIS as a career. Now that I'm not a student anymore, I feel like it's hard to learn this stuff on my own since the software is expensive and I'm low on time. So, my question to you all is: should I be honest about my lack of experience with employers, should I "fake it till I make it", or should I continue doing even lower level jobs (like internships) until I learn enough about these things to be proficient?

edit: And to put it on the table, I did great in my GIS classes, but I feel that was due to a great and helpful professor and the fact that coursework is much more cut and dry than any real world scenarios.
 
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