April 2016 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes May 10th

I think it will sell well. Just don't move consoles. Target group is Playstation hardcore that already have a console.

Yea, I don't expect it to move any hardware. But given the troubled history of its development, simply coming out is probably going to get the game more marketing then it ever would have gotten initially I think.
 
confession time, gaf

i bought DS3 and R&C digitally, which means they won't count towards NPD

i'm a disgrace :'(
Well I bought uncharted 4 digitally and I have a prediction it will outsell halo 5 npd launch month sales lol. I will just blame myself if I turn out wrong ;)
 
this is true.

Is the thinking that the price point helped with that digital ratio?

You started pre-selling digital very early with the theme offer, how was the pre-sell ramp? Did the strong reviews cause a hockey stick in the digital pre-sales at the tail?

I'm sure it's a combination of price point, reviews and offers, but what seemed to really move the needle?
 
The people saying TLG will flop remind me of the talk about Ratchet & Clank being lucky to sell 100k for NPD.

Depends on when it releases. Honestly can't see it doing that well in North America if it's going to release during the Holiday season alongside all of the third party AAA multiplat games.
 
Depends on when it releases. Honestly can't see it doing that well in North America if it's going to release during the Holiday season alongside all of the third party AAA multiplat games.

Well that is obvious. I think it should release in September or early October. November would be a death wish.
 
The people saying TLG will flop remind me of the talk about Ratchet & Clank being lucky to sell 100k for NPD.

But predicting <200k for TLG in month 1 =|= saying it will "flop".

That's just the ballpark market opportunity for this kind of game in the 2016 US packaged market.

Sales for games outside of the top 3 aren't generally much bigger than that.
 
It seems July and August will be cooldown months.

SFV - February
MLB - March
Ratchet and Clank - April
Uncharted 4 - May
No Man's Sky - June
FFXV - September
TLG - October?
 
I don't think it will happen as early but it's not entirely impossible for Xbox/PS4 to get a price cut at E3 if they announce Neo/Xbox 1.5 and/or slim models. But would die shrinks even be probable before holidays?
 
I don't think it will happen as early but it's not entirely impossible for Xbox/PS4 to get a price cut at E3 if they announce Neo/Xbox 1.5 and/or slim models. But would die shrinks even be probable before holidays?
I believe Xbone $299 is a given for E3 already... I will be surprised if it doesn't happen.
 
Sorry, i know this is OT, but i can't resist to post this LMFAO

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Well, I had FFXV but that is effectively an exclusive for PS4. :P

You're right about Deus Ex though. I forgot about that.
Might as well count ffxv and kingdom hearts 3 as exclusive lol
Well since were counting deus ex now.. Don't forget the biggest hit of the gen coming to retail this summer. The big game that our children and our children's children will be playing for ages...
Rocket league
 
But predicting <200k for TLG in month 1 =|= saying it will "flop".

That's just the ballpark market opportunity for this kind of game in the 2016 US packaged market.

Sales for games outside of the top 3 aren't generally much bigger than that.

lucky to sell 100k units is not equal to predicting <200k units :)

i think 200k would be the minimum it would sell and it could go up to 300k or more depending on reviews, hype, promotion and timing of release.
 
I think The Last Guardian NPD performance will depend on how strong it is as a single player experience, price and bundling. I mean, if games like The Order and Tomb Raider struggle to push 200K (and add Quantum Break to this list later) what business does TLG have beating out these, more marketable and casual-friendly titles?

The only way it does this is through heavy bundling or if it is priced like Ratchet and comes out to the universal praise that game received. Maybe if it turns out to be a sprawling 30 hour epic, to rival all of these open world RPG lite games, but that isn't what they're making.

I say this as someone really excited for the game. The market just isn't the same as it was in 2006-7 where a quirky single player game could perform reasonably well as a packaged product at retail.
 
lucky to sell 100k units is not equal to predicting <200k units :)

i think 200k would be the minimum it would sell and it could go up to 300k or more depending on reviews, hype, promotion and timing of release.

Neither are saying that "TLG will bomb".

Weird when sales threads get emotional. Saying that 100k or 200k or 300k could be the sales thresholds doesn't mean anyone's predicting a "bomb" or "failure".
 
At this point, if there is a NPD which Xbox one will most likely win in 2016, it's definitive October.

3 weeks of Gears of War 4 and 2 weeks of Battlefield 1 with the XBOX marketing.

If XB1 won't win October (unless we will see something like last year like a PS4 pricedrop)... that's not good.

Remember, PSVR is also releasing on October!

(And the rumored PS4K possibly toward end of year, as well!)
 
Neither are saying that "TLG will bomb".

Weird when sales threads get emotional. Saying that 100k or 200k or 300k could be the sales thresholds doesn't mean anyone's predicting a "bomb" or "failure".
Less than 200k at launch for me is bomb... not just me because I read lot of bomb to SFV, Tomb Raider, etc.

TLG < 200k will be terrible.
 
Why would TLG do good? Last I checked it isn't part of a popular IP or genre, and while its developer is well liked, it's not nearly enough to give it a big boost. Internet hype could help it chart, but I'm not aware of any particular reason it would do great.
 
Why would TLG do good? Last I checked it isn't part of a popular IP or genre, and while its developer is well liked, it's not nearly enough to give it a big boost. Internet hype could help it chart, but I'm not aware of any particular reason it would do great.

Assuming it's good and gets good reviews (the important thing here), why wouldn't it do somewhat decent (>200k)?

It's had troubled development which gives it more spotlight then your typical IP. With that said, I expect Japan and Asia to brunt the vast amount of sales.
 
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