The Strokes
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Orton vs Corbin. Maybe Orton's gonna turn and Luke might get that push.
For the US belt I think Owens vs AJ, which will turn it into the number one belt in SD.
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Orton vs Corbin. Maybe Orton's gonna turn and Luke might get that push.
For the US belt I think Owens vs AJ, which will turn it into the number one belt in SD.
Corbin.
serenewarfare
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Orton vs. Corbin
While I have no problem with them elevating the US and IC titles, it does suck that the actual midcarders have nothing to fight for. Cause you know damn well guys like Aiden English and Curtis Axel aren't going to get to sniff at belts being held and fought for by dudes like Dean Ambrose and AJ Styles.
The Strokes
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They weren't sniffing shit either way. Axel with the IC title, uuuugh.
Those were just examples but you know what I mean. You can't stick guys lower in the card in nothing feuds forever and expect them to get over. They need something to actually win and challenge for and right now, they don't have that because the main event dudes took their things.
And maybe that doesn't matter to WWE, but as a viewer, it really hurts my enjoyment of the show when they put these guys in segments that just feel like filler. Especially on Smackdown, where dudes at that level make up more of the roster.
SD killed Heath tho, he was definitely in a better position before the brand split than where he is right now
His initial push was magnificent tho
sf2fanatic
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Yo Blue, 5 in a row?
excelsiorlef
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You know I figured that might have been the case too because that powerbomb was gross looking.
Bluekaveli
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The Lakers can go to hell. I'm sick of this winning. Silver better be rigging this shit for us. We could've been number 2 to possibly get number 1 but whatever. I guess we have at least top 3.
excelsiorlef
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It's funny when you look at this week's Raw and Smackdown shakeup show. Each did better what the other failed at.
Raw introduced Bliss and I guess James (turning it into a Nia Jax segment aside) much better than Smackdown introduces Charlotte and Tamina...
But Smackdown killed it with their male wrestlers debuts and Raw made none of them look special.
Raw introduced Bliss and I guess James (turning it into a Nia Jax segment aside) much better than Smackdown introduces Charlotte and Tamina...
But Smackdown killed it with their male wrestlers debuts and Raw made none of them look special.
sf2fanatic
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I hope so too. We'll have 2 picks in the first round if so
serenewarfare
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excelsiorlef
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Metlzer backtracks on Shibata injury being a work
https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/851464999029456896
https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/851464999029456896
Time for the European and Television titles to return!
sf2fanatic
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Jinder vs Sina in a vein off battle
What dudes on Smackdown are you referring to?
"Low Card"
1. Ellsworth has a good gig playing sidekick to Carmella
2. Mojo is getting some attention due to Gronk
3. Aiden English got screwed over by Simon Gotch and will likely go back to his old gimmick
4. Tye just debuted and will likely be this year's Corbin for development on Smackdown
5. Jinder just debuted and has a good shot over the next few months to shine
6. Ryder is still injured
7. Rowan just got back from injury, doesn't have much upside right now that he is showing. Plays a nice stooge.
8. Fandango and Breeze are packaged together and are an entertaining comedic tag-team. Both could be used better, but they are taking what they are given and making it work like usual.
9. Ascension are jobbers and not much they can do about it. Authors of Pain will likely take the roll that Ascension originally was hoping they'd get.
So.... not entirely certain what you are speaking about. Raw has the worst ability at developing their talent with their low card mostly being jobbers or veteran talent without much story or character development:
"Enhancement" and "Mid-card" Raw talent
Bo Dallas, Curt Hawkins, Big Show, Goldust, R-Truth, Mark Henry, maybe Kalisto, maybe Elias Samson, Apollo Crews, Titus O'Neill, Darren Young.
Given the Raw group above, they should have Kalisto move to fighting on 205 Live to give that roster more recognized talent. Titus and Darren might as well reunite the Prime Time Players. There may be room for another tag-team in the Raw division since I imagine Sheamus and Cesaro may only have a few more months left before Raw eventually breaks them up. They have been teaming since September '16, so it's been ongoing for 7-8 months now and normally Cesaro tag-teams last 8-12 months. Big Show, Mark Henry, Goldust, and R-Truth don't have much left in the gas tank. Apollo Crews needs a total overhaul. He might as well hang around Goldust and Truth and pray some of their personality rubs off on him. Bo Dallas is hopeless. Hawkins is a jobber. Samson may have some potential for a year of stories.
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well If Dave says so I guess it wasn't a work after all🤷🏻
excelsiorlef
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It seems very likely yes.
Ninja Scooter
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The internet got the scoops. Meltz' rag stays losing.
BackLogJoe
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So I only watch WWEs flagship shows. Can someone tell me something that's on the WWE Network that I can watch to finally see Nakamura in a match? I got fucking trolled tonight. Lol. I know he was on NXT for a year so don't just say NXT. Something specific if you can please.
That forearm looked rough as shit
Discotheque
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NXT Takeover Dallas. His debut match with WWE against Sami Zayn
excelsiorlef
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Meltzer is great but man people take everything he says as gospel in the name of ha ha you got worked bro...
They also take his speculation as reporting...
That is the Meltz problem. He's both an analyst and a reporter and he blurs those lines a lot.
Like when he said based on nothing but his own speculation that Owens was going to maybe fight Balor a Payback a lot of folks just said Metlzer says Owens vs Jericho II isn't happening at Payback....
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Hogan's gonna need a dumpster to burn all these phony baloney dirt rags.
To be fair, you can blame that on other "dirtsheet" websites reporting what Meltzer said as either confirmed fact or rumor when it is, as you said, speculation.
BackLogJoe
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Thanks! Will watch right now.
I think your username could use a couple more Ls, pal.
excelsiorlef
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Other dirtsheet websites fall under people and folks...
Metlzer does it too though because he'll speculate on something while also talking about things he's got inside info on in the same breath.
i said nothing wrong
i said that dave got the info from backstage talent. those backstage talent were confused and were wrong. nothing wrong here mark
Whatever you say, TaLLLLLLLL4LLLLLLLLife
excelsiorlef
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Maybe withhold using get worked as an insult for times when the info is more solid?
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT DAVE
2 quick thoughts:
NXT Takeover: Dallas (Zayn)
NXT Takeover: San Antonio (Roode)
NXT Takeover: Orlando (Roode)
His matches with Sami Zayn and Bobby Roode are drastically different and fantastic.
Zayn is an intense back and forth spectacle where both wrestlers look like unstoppable machines.
The Roode matches at San Antonio and Orlando are methodical, classic wrestling. They're slightly slower but they both really ratchet up the tension.
- 1. Smackdown is the better show now by a mile. The only thing that could elevate it is if JBL is replaced by JR. Fuck, even Saxton was great tonight on commentary.
- 2. SDLive booking is brilliant because you're turning AJ Styles face against Owens AND backing him up with inevitable "USA" chants from the crowd. Super face turn confirmed.
NXT Takeover: Dallas (Zayn)
NXT Takeover: San Antonio (Roode)
NXT Takeover: Orlando (Roode)
His matches with Sami Zayn and Bobby Roode are drastically different and fantastic.
Zayn is an intense back and forth spectacle where both wrestlers look like unstoppable machines.
The Roode matches at San Antonio and Orlando are methodical, classic wrestling. They're slightly slower but they both really ratchet up the tension.
SallyIsNow
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All the Ls in the world won't be able to hide the mark in Pikmark.
excelsiorlef
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What's weird is Dave on twitter even before this was way less absolute about it being a work than he was on the podcast....
excelsiorlef
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Especially after you know he cracked his fucking head open with it and bled as a result...
I just want my boy to be okay and this news about him, and the conflicting reports have been frustrating.
If Shibata has to hang up his boots, I'll be very sad as it seemed like he was really hitting his stride and getting a well-deserved push. He'll always be the true ace of NJPW in my heart. I almost named my cat after him last week.
If Shibata has to hang up his boots, I'll be very sad as it seemed like he was really hitting his stride and getting a well-deserved push. He'll always be the true ace of NJPW in my heart. I almost named my cat after him last week.
Yeah but better he quits now and can try to live a life before ending up braindead or worse.
Shibata is a great wrestler but let's be honest, he chose what moves to use and I'm sure he knew the risks.
excelsiorlef
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Shibata needs to survive long enough to have his match with Bryan in New Japan
THEN they can both retire together
Or you know die together...
Are you actually serious about wanting to see those two especially after this?
New Japan is a lot more cagey about their performers being injured (like Omega's recent injury), so I can see how he would think it's a work with it being publicized as much as it was.
But it's Shibata. That man's obviously going to die in the ring a'la Misawa. He has one speed and it's rushing to his death.
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