Told Shane he was headed to Tokyo to get the elusive seventh star from The Beeg Dave.
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Told Shane he was headed to Tokyo to get the elusive seventh star from The Beeg Dave.
I gotta say both brands did great with the shake-up. Raw got Ambrose, Miz/Maryse, Wyatt, Alexa Bliss and Mickie. SD got Owens, Zayn, Charlotte, Rusev and New Day. Overall those were the most important picks and given how the storylines go from this point things can be shaken up. There's a lot of development that can be done on both sides. Unlike before, where SD was trampling Raw, I think it'll be a bit more even now.
I look forward to the future.
I look forward to the future.
Bluekaveli
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What Raw lacks is good writing and pacing. They'll still lose.
Yup. Especially when Sasha turns. Each show will have one big face and heel to build the division around.
It's crazy to think just how far women's wrestling has come in WWE. When I stopped watching in 2012, people were not shy about admitting that the Divas were the bathroom break. Now, in the just the year since I've been watching again, they've built bonafide stars in the 4 HW and Asuka, people like Alexa Bliss and Ember Moon who are getting tons of buzz and are just on the cusp of being on that Horsewoman level, and even people who have been around forever like Naomi are over. That's to say nothing of up and comers like the Iconic Duo and Nikki Cross who are gaining traction. Hell even Carmella is starting to get reactions!
I criticize the booking for the women at times - especially on Raw - but I'll give the devil its due; the increased focus on and respect for women's wrestling is a good look on WWE's part.
Ahh I see. Hope she returns soon.
Edit: Another benefit of New Day on Smackdown: Traphouse Usos go back to being regulars on UUDD!
This man gets it.
These two hours flew by. Even the rare really excellent RAW these days feels like it is going at it slow.
Some of the post PPV pre Mania SD's had like two matches and were still excellent to watch.
Exactly it's biggest issue. They can put on some nice matches and nice segments but the pacing is all jacked up. They gotta find a way to fix that.
Dark Ninja
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Your forgetting the most important shake up. David Otunga for Byron Saxton. GET FUCKED RAW.
Professor Beef
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Anyone wanna give me a real answer?
serenewarfare
Banned
He's still there. Said he wasn't going to leave because he built SD into what it is.
GavinUK86
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excelsiorlef
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Yup. Especially when Sasha turns. Each show will have one big face and heel to build the division around.
It's crazy to think just how far women's wrestling has come in WWE. When I stopped watching in 2012, people were not shy about admitting that the Divas were the bathroom break. Now, in the just the year since I've been watching again, they've built bonafide stars in the 4 HW and Asuka, people like Alexa Bliss and Ember Moon who are getting tons of buzz and are just on the cusp of being on that Horsewoman level, and even people who have been around forever like Naomi are over. That's to say nothing of up and comers like the Iconic Duo and Nikki Cross who are gaining traction. Hell even Carmella is starting to get reactions!
I criticize the booking for the women at times - especially on Raw - but I'll give the devil its due; the increased focus on and respect for women's wrestling is a good look on WWE's part.
Ahh I see. Hope she returns soon.
Edit: Another benefit of New Day on Smackdown: Traphouse Usos go back to being regulars on UUDD!
Bliss got I'd say the biggest reaction on Raw in terms of Shakeup debuts
Bluekaveli
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Like I've said, give me more story telling and you got me. I don't care about these 15 minute matches, save them for the ppv. Give them 8 minutes and build the story. That's why it worked better back then. Hell some times, I don't care for the 25-30 minute sd matches. 15-20 is good. I'd rather yhem fit more shenanigans in there. Make your fabs lust that extra ten minutes on the ppv.
Get
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Raw
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He was traded to NXT, Shane said that he was hotshotted too fast and must learn where the hard cam is to be a real WWE SuperStar.
serenewarfare
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You want to know how far women in WWE have come?
They are about to dedicate an hour every single week to women's wrestling. Not just for the tournament, but every week after that too.
They are about to dedicate an hour every single week to women's wrestling. Not just for the tournament, but every week after that too.
Stop lying, just tell this poor man the truth
Yeah but SDL has JBL so shit evens out.
I'd be fine if we got more segments like Braun wrecking shit. Anything to fill up the time.
Dark Ninja
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Bryan's 2 Sweet Me story was the best.
Bluekaveli
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Maybe he should watch my damn show instead of working. Keep the rib going.
serenewarfare
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Another good thing about Charlotte on SD is that it opens up the top heel spot on Raw for Sasha to take.
That is pretty awesome
Bluekaveli
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All the segments now are just talking that don't even feel genuine or have heat. Rarely do you even get the beat downs that lead to the matches or some fuckery. That stuff was brilliant. And the braun destruction thing was great.
She got the only reaction, far as I could tell. Save maybe Miz.
She's definitely big, but I still feel like she's just a level below the 4HW + Asuka. Which is why her being on Raw should be great for her. On Smackdown, she kind of sailed past most of the division to the point that Becky was her only competition until Naomi got over. If she continues to improve in the ring, being on a bigger stage with new opponents should be good for her.
Who said anything about Impact Wrestling?
Bluekaveli
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I know you're used to replying to oink but you've got the wrong guy.
excelsiorlef
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Raw didn't really change.... They just replaced guys that were being hurt by Raw with guys that are going to be hurt by Raw....
The only person who might really excel on Raw is Bliss and even then she could end up being third fiddle behind Nia and Sasha so jury is even out on that one. Putting her there was the right move but time will tell if they let her be the mic workhorse the division needs.
Miz was a guy with a believable path to the main event and a title run now has hit not a ceiling but a Shield that will keep him out of it.
Bray will likely just ended up fully cemented as jobber to the stars...
Now, now this could all change if they decided to put the WWE title on Raw with Bray after Payback...
The only person who might really excel on Raw is Bliss and even then she could end up being third fiddle behind Nia and Sasha so jury is even out on that one. Putting her there was the right move but time will tell if they let her be the mic workhorse the division needs.
Miz was a guy with a believable path to the main event and a title run now has hit not a ceiling but a Shield that will keep him out of it.
Bray will likely just ended up fully cemented as jobber to the stars...
Now, now this could all change if they decided to put the WWE title on Raw with Bray after Payback...
serenewarfare
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On the topic of women, Meltzer mentioned last week that WWE is at the point now where they expect Shirai to sign with them and do the tournament.
You think women's wrestling is legit in WWE now? Just wait until she gets there.
You think women's wrestling is legit in WWE now? Just wait until she gets there.
BewareTheBatsie
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So she hasn't signed on for the tournament yet?
I hope she does. Shirai vs Candice for the finals pls.
serenewarfare
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I don't think it's a done deal like Hojo is, but the situation has gone from them being unsure last month to expecting it this month, so they must have gotten some indication to change that.
Also give me Toni Storm or Evie or Hojo over Candice.
Candice is not good at wrestling women. At best she's okay.
Only Raw got going for its self right now is the TT division. Waiting on that Banks turn for me to be more invested in Women's division. They have no mid-card Dean Vs. Miz plz no. Who else's can Dean battle with? The main event picture is straight boring. Roman, Seth, Braun, Finn, and Brock. Joe Vs Seth is weird cause neither of them should be losing. Honesty I'm shocked right now how SD is so much superior then Raw right now other then TT. Vince going undo all of this by the RR. Also SD had the MiTB so it's even more interesting going forward. Honesty Raw needs AJ lol.
Bork ain't fighting nobody until August so the main event is the mid card, which is fun if they all decide they want the IC title. Or maybe Shield versus some sort of Samoan Joe stable in three months of three mans.
This.
broz0rs
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Found this on wreddit where a fan took a vid of the Charlotte and Nia Jax moonsault botch from the third row. Looks scary as hell, and i'm glad Charlotte in on SDL now.
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I hope dream's boy Nasty Nick Nemeth shows up for this Nakamura feud because I'd like to see Nak feel he can go full strong ahead and kick his face in instead of playing it safe.
Ziggler is top three "da fuck was I thinking" liking the dude once upon a time. Everyone makes mistakes oh yes they do...
Ziggler is top three "da fuck was I thinking" liking the dude once upon a time. Everyone makes mistakes oh yes they do...
JesseEwiak
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Ziggler was a guy who looked better than he was before the Indy Invasion and FCW/NXT actually training decent workers.
SallyIsNow
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Jesse confirmed clueless.
GavinUK86
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serenewarfare
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Meltzer specifically said they do not want another Ibushi. No one is getting far in this tournament or being pushed hard without already being signed and committed.
Ugh so green
Charlotte completely botched it by coming up short, but a vet would be able to read that and correct their positioning to try to lessen the botch as much as possible
Nia just stood there like a deer in headlights.
JesseEwiak
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Roman, 4 Horsewomen, plus all the other lower tier indy guys who got some polish while in NXT (believe me, Jon Moxley was not Dean Ambrose when he was first signed when it comes to in ring presence even if I think he's overrated as a worker). I'm not saying NXT has been great, it's just that Ziggler looks a lot worse in comparison.
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