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[Ilive1up]

soooo, with a lot of people hating cena, and people already seemingly in love with ryback...there wasn't much change with what happened there.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

Ryback Heel turn the one nobody asked for

Go play the lottery NOW, son.

 

[ecurbj]

I mean...really though. A count out? Other than that what a spectacular Raw! Ziggles, I love you and congratulations.

But Sexual Chocoloate losing by count out?

 

[FyreWulff]

I like how he did it right after Cena tried to use his chant

Like fuck you, stop doing that

 

[Snaku]

It's all downhill from here folks.

 

[slightconfuse]

In exhausted from this raw

So good.gif

 

[Dave Meltzer]

What a great night of pro wrestling.

It's not getting that good again.

 

[Alucard]

Awful main event, but the Ryback swerve was nice. Loved the "up yours" gesture. PG-13 show to be sure.

That was probably...the best live crowd I've seen ever. For any wrestling event.

Definitely the best Raw I've seen in the three years I've been watching wrestling again.

 

[dream]

But why would we buy the Ryback as a title threat when WWE had Fat Mark Henry destroy him at Rasslemania?

 

[BlazinAm]

Whelp this is a real challenge for the wwe to pull of well.

But why would we buy the Ryback as a title threat when WWE had Fat Mark Henry destroy him at Rasslemania?

The bigger problem is the fact that Ryback hasn't had a ppv win since the summer.

 

[Gorillaz]

That's not a Heel turn. That's a "I want the WWE Title" Statement.

When Cena is the Champ everyone is automatically a Heel

 

[LiquidSolid]

Really crowd? Ryback? Ugh, you disappoint me.

 

[Uno Venova]

That was an amazing crowd, probably the best they've had.

Now it's back to shit.

 

[Aiii]

I'm gonna cool down with some Botchamania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJoynihnXLM

 

[Frustrated_Grunt]

Based on that crowd reaction, no one turned heel tonight except Cena.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Really crowd? Ryback? Ugh, you disappoint me.

why? This crowd just want cena to get fucked up. Ryback delivered.

 

[Kaladin]

Really crowd? Ryback? Ugh, you disappoint me.

At this point we'll cheer for a broomstick over Cena.

 

[Cousteau]

So this marks two times in less than a year that they turn two faces who were more over than Cena heel to try and get Cena cheered.

Its really comical. I hope it continues.maybe Bruno will be next.

 

[Empyrean Heaven]

Look guys, the only way they're doing a Cena heel turn is if they get someone who sells as much merch, if not more, than him.

 

[Ithil]

Ryback is the REAL People's Champion.

 

[atomsk]

What a great night of pro wrestling.

It's not getting that good again.

Yeah, I enjoy the one great night a year.

Back to the same old shit next week.

 

[Htown]

But why would we buy the Ryback as a title threat when WWE had Fat Mark Henry destroy him at Rasslemania?

Triple Threat Match

For Maximum Odds

 

[Net_Wrecker]

I don't even like Ryback and that was still amazing thanks to the crowd. Felt like a Paul Heyman ending with feuds crisscrossing to build towards new feuds.

 

[Spider from Mars]

I hate Yip Yip Yip Sheffield more than Cena. Put him in a body bag CENA!!!!!!!!!

 

[jred2k]

I liked that Raw too much. Any other Raw is just gonna be a let down.

Hopefully it can create some momentum, guys looked like they were having fun wrestling again.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

But why would we buy the Ryback as a title threat when WWE had Fat Mark Henry destroy him at Rasslemania?

Dream, you aren't in THE BUSINESS. So stop trying to understand THE BUSINESS, Dream.

 

[a secret-boss]

I doubt its a heel turn. Seems like rock vs cena thing. Ryback just wants some food

 

[Evening Musuko]

That's not a Heel turn. That's a "I want the WWE Title" Statement.

The commentary team acted surprised. If he isn't heel now, he will be eventually. Just like CM Punk.

 

[British Monsoon]

But why would we buy the Ryback as a title threat when WWE had Fat Mark Henry destroy him at Rasslemania?

That's the sort of Wrestling Logic 101 that's gone entirely out of the window in recent years.

 

[krae_man]

When Cena is the Champ everyone is automatically a Heel

Vince's Roided up favorite will be the exception to that rule.

 

[Snaku]

Triple Threat Match

For Maximum Odds

Cener will AA both of them at the same time!

 

[SquashMatch]

A face more over than Cena!! WOW we must now.........feed him to Cena.

 

[redmetal86]

You know what this means. We'll have to hear Ryback speak again.

 

[TheChits]

Man that was truly a show to remember.

 

[Htown]

DOO DOO

DOO DOO DOO DOO
DOODOODOODOODOO

 

[Frustrated_Grunt]

Man, compared to tonight, our crowd in Greenville is going to suck. I'll try my best though.

 

[Penguin]

I swear the easiest way to turn someone heel is to feud em with Cena.

 

[Officerrob]

It's all downhill from here folks.

Clearly. Ryback vs. Cena? No thanks

 

[BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!]

Amazing that we went through an entire episode of Raw without one barrage of divas post

I had a boner for Fandango, Showster, Ziggler, and Ryback tonight bro. And I ain't even gay!

BEST RAW EVER!!!1!ONE

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I don't even like Ryback and that was still amazing thanks to the crowd. Felt like a Paul Heyman ending with feuds crisscrossing to build towards new feuds.

it's funny because that identical segment would have FLOPPED with a boring typical crowd, but it was pretty damn good because of this one.

 

[UberTag]

So this marks two times in less than a year that they turn two faces who were more over than Cena heel to try and get Cena cheered.

This will ALWAYS be what happens.
First CM Punk then Ryback then whomever the next super-over face that's booked strong will be.
They would turn Undertaker heel for his streak match against Cena.
They would try to turn D.Brine heel to be fed to Cena.
Every over face must be turned heel and fed to the black hole charisma-less face that is John Cena.

Historically this has happened with plenty of other people as well.
RVD was super-over as a face. Turned heel to be fed to Cena.
Batista became BROtista to dismantle Rey and get fed to Cena.
Ditto with Orton.

 

[Zhengi]

See everyone next year post Wrestlemania.

 

[jmdajr]

At this point we'll cheer for a broomstick over Cena.

Did someone say broomstick

 

[toddhunter]

 

[dream]

That's the sort of Wrestling Logic 101 that's gone entirely out of the window in recent years.

I mean, it was just last night! I'm not even necessarily saying the Ryback should have beaten Fat Mark Henry, but shouldn't they have, I don't know, at least not have Fat Mark Henry go over clean if they had this planned?

 

[ecurbj]

Tonight's RAW 9 out of 10. Glad Triple H wasn't there to bore. Mainly because of The Shield, Kane, Undertaker and Daniel Bryan and Ziggles the new World Heavyweight Champion.

I'm

 

[Diablos54]

What an amazing RAW, I'll see you guys at Wrestlemania and RAW the next night next year!

 

[GDGF]

That was fucking fun.

 

[Sephzilla]

Best RAW in a long ass time but it only goes down hill from here

 

[LiquidSolid]

why? This crowd just want cena to get fucked up. Ryback delivered.

Should've been cheering like crazy for Mark Henry then.