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Arcade Fire announce "The Suburbs"

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After 4 listens, I rank the songs like this -

great:
Modern Man
Half Light II
Suburban War

very good:
City With No Children
Half Light I
Rococo
Sprawl I and II
The Suburbs
Ready to Start

good:
We Used to Wait
Wasted Hours
Deep Blue
The Suburbs Continued

weak:
Empty Room
Month of May

bad:
none
 
I agree with the people saying the album could probably be trimmed down a bit, but overall I think it's quite solid. I think I'd rank it below their previous two efforts, but the best songs here are really good.
 
I wish they'd cut down Suburban War a little bit. The first half of the song seems to drag on forever, but the second half is great.
 
Personally, I don't want them to cut anything
Out of this album. I don't think there is any filler. Every song has substance. Even the last song which isn't anything but a reprise seems to work.
 
rhino4evr said:
Personally, I don't want them to cut anything
Out of this album. I don't think there is any filler. Every song has substance. Even the last song which isn't anything but a reprise seems to work.

Well it's clear that it resonates with you, but I guess since I'm 21 I haven't had time to get nostalgic over the suburbs yet. :lol Neon Bible was the album that resonated with me the most, probably because I was just starting to get politically active about a year or so before it came out. I still think Funeral is the best though, even though I can't really "feel" it the way others can since I haven't hit that stage in life yet where I feel like I've lost my youth - it simply has the best sounding music out of all three. There isn't a track I skip on Funeral, though there's one or two on Neon Bible and a couple more on this album.

I've always preferred their more bombastic stuff anyway, so Wasted Hours and Sprawl I and The Suburbs Continued just don't really do anything for me.
 
sphagnum said:
Well it's clear that it resonates with you, but I guess since I'm 21 I haven't had time to get nostalgic over the suburbs yet. :lol Neon Bible was the album that resonated with me the most, probably because I was just starting to get politically active about a year or so before it came out. I still think Funeral is the best though, even though I can't really "feel" it the way others can since I haven't hit that stage in life yet where I feel like I've lost my youth - it simply has the best sounding music out of all three. There isn't a track I skip on Funeral, though there's one or two on Neon Bible and a couple more on this album.

I've always preferred their more bombastic stuff anyway, so Wasted Hours and Sprawl I and The Suburbs Continued just don't really do anything for me.
No doubt..I thought Neon Bible was almost juvinile In certain aspects. It's nice to see the Arcade Fire grow up a bit. Funeral seemed to focus on Tragedy..which I'be never experienced personally (knock on wood) so this is really above what I thought they were capable of, even though I thought funeral was the best of the decade.

Bottom line The Arcade Fire are pretty amazing in a sea of mediocrity
 
I don't know if laid back is the way to describe this album, although it definitely feels that way compared to Funeral... but I think it just fits with the music I listen to these days. Stuff like Bon Iver or Beach House, where I can just close my eyes and drift away with it.

Maybe it has something to do with me turning 30 in September.
 
Vicious said:
I don't know if laid back is the way to describe this album, although it definitely feels that way compared to Funeral... but I think it just fits with the music I listen to these days. Stuff like Bon Iver or Beach House, where I can just close my eyes and drift away with it.

Maybe it has something to do with me turning 30 in September.
Exactly..the band is growing with their listeners. It's a natural progression.
 
Been listening to "Sprawl II" on repeat, and it reminds me about something. One thing that's lacking about this album is regine. To much win bulter on this CD. Which sucks, since his vocals are kinda shitty.:/
 
Regine only ever gets one or two songs per album though. I guess since there's more songs, it is disproportionate that she doesn't get more here...

I actually think Win's vocals are a lot better on this. He's improved a lot since Funeral where he's clearly singing outside his range a lot of the time, although that gives it a certain emotional flair. Definitely a lot better than his vocals on the demo tapes and the Arcade Fire EP at any rate. :lol
 
I agree with the folks saying that those of us around Win's age identifying with his lyrics more.

Perhaps that will cause more of a disconnect for people with the Suburbs. Funeral can really be identified with for anyone who has experienced tragedy --- and Neon Bible works on many levels - even if you weren't a liberal who hated George Bush :lol

I also think there's a borderline spiritual, or maybe biblical component to how Win writes lyrics, which makes sense based on his educational background.
 
ShineALight said:
I'm finishing up my first listen now, I'm on "Sprawl II" and at this point it's the only song I'd consider going back to.

I'm a little embarrassed but not surprised by the fact that I liked them so much as a teen, and it's for the same reasons I find them hard to listen to now. They're so earnest, so desperate in their pursuit of sincerity, they really are a parody of themselves.

The hyperbole is pretty amazing too, a lot of people really think that this is a capital 'M' masterpiece, and I just don't hear it. It's not even one of the best albums this year. Oh well, hope the rest of you find it more to your liking.

Well, too bad you don't like it. You're still morally obligated to buy it, however.
 
so on my first listen, i found the album pretty forgettable.

But I've been replaying it again to get a better feel for the vibe. it is growing on me. It's still not moving me as their last two did but it is getting better.

my itunes pre-order feels justified.
 
I might be interviewing them next weekend for work. I hope this goes through.

Haven't had a chance to listen to the album yet though.
 
"Month Of May" is disposable. I'm not a big fan of the transitions between some songs (the fading). Overall, I think it's an okay album.
 
hateradio said:
"Month Of May" is disposable. I'm not a big fan of the transitions between some songs (the fading). Overall, I think it's an okay album.

It seems like it could be that way... and then you hear the live version, and then you realize that it's Arcade Fire - and is just as much a live band as it is a studio/album band (if not moreso).
 
hateradio said:
"Month Of May" is disposable.
Seriously, I don't care for that song at all. That style of music doesn't play to their strengths at all.
Also, it can't be said enough how great Sprawl II is. Probably my favorite song featuring Regine.
 
Helmholtz said:
Seriously, I don't care for that song at all. That style of music doesn't play to their strengths at all.
Also, it can't be said enough how great Sprawl II is. Probably my favorite song featuring Regine.
Oh god YES! Sprawl II is fuckin phenomenal. Regine's childlike tone fit the lyrics perfectly and it's just a song that Win can't pull off. I am really enjoying the hell out of this album. Another poster said it best, it's their most sophisticated effort yet. Whereas they relied on bombast in the past, the mood of the songs carry this album. It perfectly captures the boredom, nostalgia, loss of hope, and eventual acceptance and conformity that accompanies shedding your childhood and growing up.

As for lyrics, I think it was Miyamoto who once complemented Itoi's writing in The Mother series by saying, (and Im paraphrasing) some people seem to think that vocabulary is about using lots of big words, but Itoi showed me that it's about using common words in the most effective way possible.

"Sometimes I can't believe it, I'm moving past the feeling". Indeed.
 
Alucard said:
Not better than High Violet from The National this year. Hrm. It may grow on me, though.
Well High Violet is a hard album to beat. It only has one flaw, which is the opening song.
I haven't really been in the right mindset for Arcade Fire this past week so I haven't fully listened to The Suburbs yet, but I love "We Used To Wait" and I absolutely could not care less for "Month Of May".
 
K. So this is off-topic a little, but I finally figured out my problem with The Monitor while listening to this. I don't know why because the comparison isn't even to this.

The Monitor is like live Joy Division. It could take a few steps back on the loudness, and density to better communicate its point as a whole.
 
Danielsan said:
Well High Violet is a hard album to beat. It only has one flaw, which is the opening song.
I haven't really been in the right mindset for Arcade Fire this past week so I haven't fully listened to The Suburbs yet, but I love "We Used To Wait" and I absolutely could not care less for "Month Of May".

Yeah, I'm not sure I can listen to Arcade Fire the same way again. So much of my love for them was rooted in their lyrics, which are now rife with angst in retrospect. I still think they're a great band, but I just don't identify with them as much as I did six years ago. There is too much melodrama for me to listen to them on a regular basis anymore.

The National can pull of melodrama because Matt's voice provides a leveling effect; he sounds mature and above the drama, while singing about it. It's effortless for him. I love lines like, "We look younger than feel, and older than we are," or "I won't be no runaway, because I don't wanna run," when they're sung with such disaffection and tongue-in-cheek fashion, without being too self-serious. The National are the thinking man's rock band; they're music for the young professional, which is why I'm identifying with them so much right now.

Conversely, Arcade Fire provide music for your angsty teen years and early 20s, when you're just trying to make some sense of the relationships around you, and questioning authority with no real focus or realistic idea for a solution.
 
Alucard said:
Yeah, I'm not sure I can listen to Arcade Fire the same way again. So much of my love for them was rooted in their lyrics, which are now rife with angst in retrospect. I still think they're a great band, but I just don't identify with them as much as I did six years ago. There is too much melodrama for me to listen to them on a regular basis anymore.
I felt this way, and this is my first time listening to Arcade Fire since 2005 really. I gave Neon Bible a few goes, but never liked it.

Funeral was my favorite record, but I changed and stopped listening to it.

I love this shit though, especially when you've got the time to listen to it in its entirety.
 
Zilch said:
"Music for the young professional"? Ooh, sign me up! :lol

Win Butler angst 4 evah! :D
I get what he's talking about, but I agree with your stance. I enjoy The National's music, but Berringer's emotionally disconnected and almost bored sounding vocal delivery doesn't quite do it for me. Although he posseses a pretty narrow vocal range, I'll take Butler's yelp any day, he's more capable of channeling emotion to me.
 
Win Butler is like a child fighting against a non-existent terror. He's paranoid and sketchy. Berninger is much more self-assured and acts like a social critic who has basically accepted his lot, but who enjoys poking fun at the absurdity of corporate life, while seeing its romantic qualities at the same time.

I dunno, I find much more poetry and beauty in Berninger's disconnected croons than in Butler's whines and cries against the dying light.

*full pretension mode on*
 
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri said:
I get what he's talking about, but I agree with your stance. I enjoy The National's music, but Berringer's emotionally disconnected and almost bored sounding vocal delivery doesn't quite do it for me. Although he posseses a pretty narrow vocal range, I'll take Butler's yelp any day, he's more capable of channeling emotion to me.

He's more capable of being emotional, no doubt. I suppose it's just a matter of personal preference and what speaks to you at whatever point you're at in your life, and how you view the world at the present time.

If this were high school, Butler would be the raving activist, and Berninger would be the guy saying "whatever, man."
 
I like album. Wasn't blown away like Neon Bible and Funeral, but this is a much more lowkey album and I can see it having more replay value. Neon Bible and Funeral got slightly stale for me since they were so bombastic. Not a bad song on this album though.
 
Timber said:
i guess that's why i didn't care for high violet. sucks to be retarded sometimes.

I didn't mean to suggest that you had to be a thinking man to enjoy The National, nor that you had to enjoy them one way or the other. I can understand why some people would not like them, just like with any other band.
 
they're a thinking man's band. after all, it takes a lot of education to understand how a band mining the same well for three LPs can be so lauded by learned philosophers.

bands from the Beatles to Pavement progressed their sound more from album to album than the National have their entire careers.
 
scorcho said:
they're a thinking man's band. after all, it takes a lot of education to understand how a band mining the same well for three LPs can be so lauded by learned philosophers.

bands from the Beatles to Pavement progressed their sound more from album to album than the National have their entire careers.

I don't think you're listening closely enough; they didn't start their careers with Alligator, nor has their sound not progressed since that album.

From
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to
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was a huge step.

Then from Sad Songs For Dirty Lovers to Alligator was an even more monumental evolution, and the Cherry Tree EP was the bridge for that change in a more serious and pensive direction. Boxer was another evolution, and is probably the most sophisticated record they have ever released, with an air-tight percussion section, and a stronger focus on rhythm and hooks that grew on you with repeated listens. High Violet has a more varied sound than Boxer and features some of the band's most dense recordings.

If you think the band hasn't progressed, then I think you ought to try listening to their debut and their newest album, just to see how far along they've come.

Anyway, even if you consider their evolution to be a mild one, they're still an extremely consistent band that is refining what they're good at. Honestly, they could write another three albums like Boxer and I would eat them up gladly. That's not likely to happen though, as the band has said that they will try going in a different direction with their next record.
 
scorcho said:
they're a thinking man's band. after all, it takes a lot of education to understand how a band mining the same well for three LPs can be so lauded by learned philosophers.

bands from the Beatles to Pavement progressed their sound more from album to album than the National have their entire careers.

Pavement and The Beatles are some of the most acclaimed rock bands of all-time, that's a pretty high benchmark. And it's arguable the progression from Please Please Me to Help! isn't larger than the one from The National to High Violet. Rubber Soul might be a different story, but using the Beatles discography as a roadmap, The National haven't yet reached that point in their career. That would be their next one.

And there was very little progression from Brighten the Corners to Terror Twilight, so if you feel like The Boxer and High Violet are too samey, that's par for the course on the Pavement comparison (not to say either Pavement album is bad, I love Pavement).

But really, I don't see the value in comparing one band's discography to another's, in that way. I love Guided by Voices and all of their best albums are pretty similar, sonically. Not a big deal as long as the songwriting remains solid.
 
This album is definitely a grower. I liked it a lot more after multiple listens. It also seems more of a complete or consistent record if that makes any sense. It's hard for me to pick individual songs as my favorites because they seem to compliment each other really well (well, besides month of may for me, I always skip it). While Funeral will probably always be my favorite, I think this album is at least as good as Neon Bible. It has a really nice mellowed out sound, which is quite different from Neon's darker and serious tone.
Edit: Really liking Half Light I and II
 
scorcho said:
they're a thinking man's band. after all, it takes a lot of education to understand how a band mining the same well for three LPs can be so lauded by learned philosophers.

bands from the Beatles to Pavement progressed their sound more from album to album than the National have their entire careers.
I completely agree..for the life of me I can't figure out how people can love the national so much. I really liked alligator, but everything since then seems like a total retread. If I took all their songs and put it on shuffle I'd have a really hard time distinguishing what tracks came from what album..the only thing that's gotten better is the production, the band has become completely boring to me.

The Suburbs is a triumph. I never thought they would top Funeral but I think they have. This album feels less calculated and much warmer their previous releases..especially Neon Bible which was a cold as it's subject matter.
 
its probably just me, but i like winn's voice less and less from album to album.. it was best on the self-titled ep and funeral

compare this to suburbs
 
rar said:
its probably just me, but i like winn's voice less and less from album to album.. it was best on the self-titled ep and funeral

compare this to suburbs
I actually like his voice more now. It's not nearly as grating. It's much more focused within his range. It fits the album perfectly
 
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