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[Kevyt]

Really Ouro? ;_;

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Unvote: Haly

Vote: EzekelRage

It is very strange that he seems quiet going by the last game. He could be busy, maybe he didn't had time but hopefully this will pressure him to become more active and hear his side.

But I guess we shouldn't really worry about inactive players that much because of mod kills. That will make the game more interesting.

In the AC game there were a lot of barely active players and somehow they made it to the end-game. I didn't really like that.

 

[El Topo]

So we lynch at night, too? Sorry, I've never played a Mafia game with this tweak before.

We lynch during the day. Once the ritual sacrifice is over the night begins.

 

[Ourobolus]

So we lynch at night, too? Sorry, I've never played a Mafia game with this tweak before.

Night time is when people who have power roles typically use them (sometimes there are day roles though). This also typically includes a night-lynch by the mafia.

 

[Ourobolus]

Really Ouro? ;_;

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It makes it easier for me to search!

 

[Palmer_v1]

Vote: Mike_Hawk689

He has yet to place a vote and is one of the least active players. Visualante2 is in the same boat.

I'm still mildly concerned about Mazre due to his general lack of self-defense. I don't think GLT is a Mafia because he's been leading on votes on and off for a while, and nobody has tried to take the heat off of him by railroading someone else. I'm also worried the votes on him are to get heat off Mazre.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Night time is when people who have power roles typically use them (sometimes there are day roles though). This also typically includes a night-lynch by the mafia.

Okay, I think I get it.

So, then, it would behoove KGB to have someone in the mission so they can ace two people per night phase (one on the mission and one at Town), but I guess it doesn't matter how many people they have in there, as long as they do have someone there.

 

[Haly]

I might be. Wouldn't they still be immune from Town lynching for one cycle, though, even though they can lynch each other?

No....

Okay, let's start this from the beginning.

Day Starts
     Discussion starts
     People volunteer
     We vote for a player to get lynched
Day Ends, whoever has the most votes gets killed, top 4 volunteers go on the mission
Twilight Begins
     No discussion allowed
     Twilight roles happen here     
Twilight Ends
Night Begins
     No discussion allowed
     Mission starts here, 4 players given a temporary chat using quicktopic.com
     Mafia will use power roles (if any) this time, and also assign kills to their players
     Town power roles may also be active during this time
     Both Mafia and Town are limited to targeting people in their group. A Mafia not on the mission can only target Town who are not on the mission, and vice versa. A Town Power Role on the mission can only target another player on the Mission, and vice versa
Night Ends
New Day Begins
     Volunteers return from mission
     Someone might be dead from either mission or non-mission group, maybe multiple, maybe none
     Repeat as before

 

[Palmer_v1]

Okay, I think I get it.

So, then, it would behoove KGB to have someone in the mission so they can ace two people per night phase (one on the mission and one at Town), but I guess it doesn't matter how many people they have in there, as long as they do have someone there.

Now I'm at a point where I think this is a deliberate ruse.

 

[Haly]

I give up.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Now what do I have wrong? Whatever Mafia on the mission can kill anyone else on the mission, and whatever Mafia aren't can kill anyone else not on the mission, so that's two kills, unless no Mafia members got into the mission or they choose not to make a kill.

 

[Ourobolus]

Okay, I think I get it.

So, then, it would behoove KGB to have someone in the mission so they can ace two people per night phase (one on the mission and one at Town), but I guess it doesn't matter how many people they have in there, as long as they do have someone there.

Mafia still only gets one kill (as a team, they decide who carried it out) UNLESS they have some power role that allows them to do otherwise. Where they use it is up to how they decide to play - they are constrained by the same mechanics as the town.

 

[Mazre]

Mazre – Early volunteer. Other posts have been pretty short, although some of them have been contibutive, although I do disagree to some point that people who are not interested in the missions from the get-go are suspicious. Something bugs me though, it feels almost like Mazre is almost indifferent to the votes he has received, mostly judging by the posts he made answering to posts that had voted him.”Votes are pretty elastic, so no harm doing so early—”. Almost like he is sure the votes won’t have any bigger affect? Weird.

Thanks for taking the time to put your reads together. You are correct I am mostly indifferent to votes being cast against me. It's day 1, and the only tallies that matter are the one where someone has a majority or where the clock has struck 0. I've addressed concerns as often and as best I can, beyond that my fate is outside of my control.

 

[QuantumBro]

Now what do I have wrong? Whatever Mafia on the mission can kill anyone else on the mission, and whatever Mafia aren't can kill anyone else not on the mission, so that's two kills, unless no Mafia members got into the mission or they choose not to make a kill.

Unless there are special rules that I don't know about, mafia as a team can kill one person a night. So if one of them goes on the mission, they can kill someone else on the mission or someone in the town, but now both.


I am right about this, right? Septimus is making me doubt if I understand this.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Now what do I have wrong? Whatever Mafia on the mission can kill anyone else on the mission, and whatever Mafia aren't can kill anyone else not on the mission, so that's two kills, unless no Mafia members got into the mission or they choose not to make a kill.

The Mafia are only able to give one Kill command a night. Any Mafia member can send that Kill to Ouro. It will only work if they are in the same place as their target. Mafia A is on the mission. They could use the single Kill command to kill someone else on the mission. Mafia B is not on the mission. They can use the single Kill command to kill someone not on the mission. If Mafia A uses the command, Mafia B cannot, and vice versa.

All of this is assuming they do not have extra ways to kill. I personally think this will be a bloodier game than average.

Spoiler

Sorry Brett

 

[Septimus Prime]

Okay, I get it, finally. It definitely makes sense to have at least one Mafia member on the mission, then, and it might make more sense to have unique roles outside the mission so they have a larger pool of people on whom to use their abilities.

 

[squidyj]

I don't wanna be part of the team that night 1's Seath I just don't.

 

[Mazre]

I'm still mildly concerned about Mazre due to his general lack of self-defense.

Huh? Pretty sure I've addressed most every query in my direction. Is there something I've missed or something in particular you would like clarified/explained?

 

[Palmer_v1]

Okay, I get it, finally. It definitely makes sense to have at least one Mafia member on the mission, then, and it might make more sense to have unique roles outside the mission so they have a larger pool of people on whom to use their abilities.

Correct, though I doubt they'll kill a mission member this early, because it either gives us a very small pool of players to investigate, or confirms that they have a way around the constraints. Thus my desire to be in the relative safety of the mission today. For lack of any claimed power roles, there are a handful of town that make for juicier targets than the rest.

 

[Haly]

I will vote aggressively to keep Seath from being lynche, if it comes to that.

This is my penance, my burden to bear.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Huh? Pretty sure I've addressed most every query in my direction. Is there something I've missed or something in particular you would like clarified/explained?

I saw your previous post and intended to go back to see what I missed, but I haven't yet. I may have simply glossed over your posts cause I was on mobile for a while. If so, I apologize for the accusation! If not, eat a giant dick, Pam!

 

[Septimus Prime]

Correct, though I doubt they'll kill a mission member this early, because it either gives us a very small pool of players to investigate, or confirms that they have a way around the constraints. Thus my desire to be in the relative safety of the mission today. For lack of any claimed power roles, there are a handful of town that make for juicier targets than the rest.

That would be a deadly power. It would pin suspicion upon a small pool of players, but I don't think we would be able to confirm the power's existence until we lynch the others in the mission and find out they were all Town.

 

[Mazre]

If not, eat a giant dick, Pam!

.

 

[squidyj]

So..... here's a list of everyone who hasn't been voted on not even once.

Arkos
YesNOnoNOYes
Quantumbro
Palmer_v1
Hobohodo

and to this list I want to add

El Topo
Razmos

and I want to hear what everyone thinks of these players in particular.

I think I've made my thoughts on Arkos, Palmer Razmos and Hobohodo somewhat known. but I'll reiterate those as well. I'll do it in a separate post because It might take a few minutes to write up.

 

[Palmer_v1]

So..... here's a list of everyone who hasn't been voted on not even once.

Arkos
YesNOnoNOYes
Quantumbro
Palmer_v1
Hobohodo

and to this list I want to add

El Topo
Razmos

and I want to hear what everyone thinks of these players in particular.

I think I've made my thoughts on Arkos, Palmer Razmos and Hobohodo somewhat known. but I'll reiterate those as well. I'll do it in a separate post because It might take a few minutes to write up.

I swear I had a vote on me earlier. I'm surprised by that and Arkos.

 

[squidyj]

I swear I had a vote on me earlier. I'm surprised by that and Arkos.

well I mean this list is only as good as Ouro's accounting so you never know.

 

[Enker]

Mafia still only gets one kill (as a team, they decide who carried it out) UNLESS they have some power role that allows them to do otherwise. Where they use it is up to how they decide to play - they are constrained by the same mechanics as the town.

Thanks - I had that question myself. Makes sense that there wouldn’t be two kills a night. Now I may volunteer for the next mission.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Guys, I now have the top post of a new page that all of Danganropa thread will have to view repeatedly while they wait for the next Day to start. What gif should I post?

 

[QuantumBro]

Guys, I now have the top post of a new page that all of Danganropa thread will have to view repeatedly while they wait for the next Day to start. What gif should I post?

 

[cooljeanius]

Thanks - I had that question myself. Makes sense that there wouldn’t be two kills a night. Now I may volunteer for the next mission.

Hey, while you're here, any responses to the suspicions people have been voicing about you?

 

[Ourobolus]

well I mean this list is only as good as Ouro's accounting so you never know.

I got this. Don't fret your little head. Take another day to come up with another "joke."

 

[Mazre]

Request for reads

Arkos - Seems earnest enough, may be taking advantage of his newness as cover but no conclusive evidence to me of such.

Yesnononoyes - Lean positive, has been a steady contributor in spite of timezone hurdle

Quantumbro - feels like he's flying a bit under the radar but has been consistent so far

Palmer_v1 - I love active players, based solely on this games events I have no reason to trust/distrust him more than anyone else at this point

Hobohodo - Lean negative, but only slightly

El Topo- Seems focused on following his gut, can't fault that day 1

Razmos- Seems consistent to me with his previous behaviour, maybe a little lower than usual, not raising a lot of alarms for me yet

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Ezekiel was in the bottom 5 of my last check. If his posting habits are wildly different from before, it could be worth pursuing. I honestly didn't watch the AC thread much early on, though, so he hadn't stood out to me any more than the other inactive players.

Thing is about judging my posting behavior compared to last game is when I entered the game 3 days had been completed and I had a bunch of information to go through. No one can say I would've posted that way at the beginning of the game since they have no game to compare it to. At the moment I have nothing really but looking at posting behaviors. Was gonna do a vote count but someone had recently done it.

 

[El Topo]

Since you asked about it, let me show you what others think about me.

Dude's frickin' amazing. I remember when some guy was trying to mug me, held a knife at my throat actually, when Topo came and just knocked that guy out with a roundhouse kick.

He was unbelievably good in the first mafia game. Like, I couldn't believe how amazing he was. If he's mafia we're all dead already. I trust him though.

Bro, I don't trust him. Someone that handsome, intelligent and accomplished is going to end this game way too quickly, whether he is town or mafia. Don't think we should lynch him though, he deserves to survive until the very end.

I'm a crab.

My favourite movie by Jodorowsky.

Topo means mole in Spanish. Lisa needs braces. Topo means mole in Spanish. Lisa needs braces. Topo means mole in Spanish. Lisa needs braces. Topo means mole in Spanish. Lisa needs braces. Topo means mole in Spanish. Lisa needs braces. Topo means mole in Spanish. Lisa needs braces.

 

[Mazre]

Guys, I now have the top post of a new page that all of Danganropa thread will have to view repeatedly while they wait for the next Day to start. What gif should I post?

 

[cooljeanius]

Thing is about judging my posting behavior compared to last game is when I entered the game 3 days had been completed and I had a bunch of information to go through. No one can say I would've posted that way at the beginning of the game since they have no game to compare it to. At the moment I have nothing really but looking at posting behaviors. Was gonna do a vote count but someone had recently done it.

You still keeping your vote on me? Not that I'll be able to reply right away if you are, though, as I'm heading out right now... but anyways.

 

[Arkos]

Now I'm at a point where I think this is a deliberate ruse.

I agree

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So..... here's a list of everyone who hasn't been voted on not even once.

Arkos
YesNOnoNOYes
Quantumbro
Palmer_v1
Hobohodo

and to this list I want to add

El Topo
Razmos

I'll give a breakdown of what I think of each poster including the ones above later.

You still keeping your vote on me? Not that I'll be able to reply right away if you are, though, as I'm heading out right now... but anyways.

We'll see later when I make look at all the posts of everyone later.

 

[QuantumBro]

So..... here's a list of everyone who hasn't been voted on not even once.

Arkos
- Don't think he's a KGB member since he's trying a bit hard to start a fire with some of his posts.
YesNOnoNOYes
- Impressed me with this post. Likely town.
Quantumbro
- No good piece of shit fucking scum! We'd be fools to keep him around another day!
Palmer_v1
- As I said earlier, I find it a bit suspicious that he's pretty open about being a basic drone. Really wants to go on the mission too. Possible neutral.
Hobohodo
- No thoughts one way or another right now.
and to this list I want to add

El Topo
-Bro, I don't trust him. Someone that handsome, intelligent and accomplished is going to end this game way too quickly, whether he is town or mafia. Don't think we should lynch him though, he deserves to survive until the very end.

Spoiler

No thoughts one way or another right now.

Razmos
-Luckily he just barely missed me after he ran over your parents, so I've got no beef with him.

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/L0MK7qz13bU?t=1m3s

and I want to hear what everyone thinks of these players in particular.

I think I've made my thoughts on Arkos, Palmer Razmos and Hobohodo somewhat known. but I'll reiterate those as well. I'll do it in a separate post because It might take a few minutes to write up.

My thoughts are in the post.

 

[Ourobolus]

Announcement: looks like my trip will put me in Montreal around the time that the Day Phase will end. Since I won't have cell service, I'll have to seek out some wi-fi.

Votes only count up until the deadline. I will not count votes after 5PM EDT.

I will try to find something around then and get the update posted, so please be patient!

 

[Arkos]

Announcement: looks like my trip will put me in Montreal around the time that the Day Phase will end. Since I won't have cell service, I'll have to seek out some wi-fi.

Votes only count up until the deadline. I will not count votes after 5PM EST.

I will try to find something around then and get the update posted, so please be patient!

Oh yeah, Montreal, going to spend our pay checks on Canadian champagne or whatever other cheap knock off French crap they have there. Thanks a lot.

 

[Ourobolus]

Oh yeah, Montreal, going to spend our pay checks on Canadian champagne or whatever other cheap knock off French crap they have there. Thanks a lot.

I've blown most of my discretionary funds on lobster the past few days in CT, RI, MA, and ME, so this might be a good change for now!

Spoiler

I could totally eat more lobster

 

[Mazre]

Votes only count up until the deadline. I will not count votes after 5PM EST.

I will try to find something around then and get the update posted, so please be patient!

Point of clarification but your current timer states EDT, assume this is what you meant. Also a reminder to my fellow employees, try not to push your votes to the last minute if possible. Last minute chaos pretty much only favors KGB. If you do have to vote late do remember that there is a 1 post per minute limit, don't accidentally lock yourself out or fumble around with tags etc.

I know there are still 20~ hours to go but do remember timezones/personal schedules mean we're pretty much in final arguments at this point.

 

[Enker]

So..... here's a list of everyone who hasn't been voted on not even once.

Arkos
YesNOnoNOYes
Quantumbro
Palmer_v1
Hobohodo

and to this list I want to add

El Topo
Razmos

and I want to hear what everyone thinks of these players in particular.

I think I've made my thoughts on Arkos, Palmer Razmos and Hobohodo somewhat known. but I'll reiterate those as well. I'll do it in a separate post because It might take a few minutes to write up.

General Thoughts

Unlike the Danganronpa game, there’s very little evidence of anyone trying to bandwagon. From the beginner Mafia wiki reading, this is either because people will consider them scum for doing so or we want to stretch out the day. In retrospect I probably should have voted for someone day 1, but EOD day 2 isn’t too bad (problem is Mazre doesn’t care that much that he has votes, or that I attempted to get him to un-volunteer =) ).

Player Reads:

Palmer - “1st 4” logic, but plenty active and I agree with the sentiment about not lynching active folks yet. His points about wanting to be in the mission make even more sense with the clarification that the KGB can’t double kill if they have members in both camps. I consider him much less suspect then the other 3, but possible scum.

El Topo - Seems to have a good handle on the game and has stuck to his Roy vote while a decent amount of people have switched. See post 681/684 as an example. For now no evidence to presume scum.

YesNo - Appears to be matching her posting style from what I’ve seen on GAF, which is always a good sign that you aren’t trying to hide something. But then again, no votes yet, pressure will do a lot to anyone. For now there is nothing I’ve picked up that would cause me to suspect anything...scummy

Arkos - I really don’t know...possibly playing dumb? A 1st 4 suspect of course...and I nearly voted for him Day 2 before I ultimately picked Mazre.

I will attempt to post my reads on the others in another post.

 

[Kevyt]

It makes it easier for me to search!

Oh I see!

I understand. Thanks for letting me know based Ourobolos o/

 

[Ourobolus]

Point of clarification but your current timer states EDT, assume this is what you meant.

Yeah, my bad. Fixed.

 

[Enker]

Point of clarification but your current timer states EDT, assume this is what you meant. Also a reminder to my fellow employees, try not to push your votes to the last minute if possible. Last minute chaos pretty much only favors KGB. If you do have to vote late do remember that there is a 1 post per minute limit, don't accidentally lock yourself out or fumble around with tags etc.

I know there are still 20~ hours to go but do remember timezones/personal schedules mean we're pretty much in final arguments at this point.

PSA for me on this: As I get home after 5pm EDT on weekdays Monday-Thursday, whomever has my vote tonight will have it until the end of the day phase.

 

[Kevyt]

Sorry all for my slugginesh!

I've been on mobile most of the time and it makes it hard to type long thoughtful posts and keep up with some of the other posts.

Also the reason many of my posts lack substance and coherence.

 

[Ourobolus]

Sorry all for my slugginesh!

I've been on mobile most of the time and it makes it hard to type long thoughtful posts and keep up with some of the other posts.

Also the reason many of my posts lack substance and coherence.

You think that's bad. Try tallying the votes on 18 different people on mobile! ;_;

 

[Kevyt]

I don't wanna be part of the team that night 1's Seath I just don't.

I will vote aggressively to keep Seath from being lynche, if it comes to that.

This is my penance, my burden to bear.

That's okay! If the players think this is the right choice then that's fine. I'll try my best to make a case for myself and prove my innocence but I won't lie that I don't mind getting lynched early in the game.

Spectator mode is so much fun! Also, my role is pretty useless I'm pretty much like an ordinary villager in the AC game.

I'll be the meat shield for someone if need be.

You think that's bad. Try tallying the votes on 18 different people on mobile! ;_;

Based Ouro!

My condolences. However, you're doing a great job!

 

[Enker]

Hey, while you're here, any responses to the suspicions people have been voicing about you?

Yeah, I am an idiot who posted the same thing again after I already knew it was wrong from earlier in the thread. Just was trying to post quickly last night because I got home very late and didn’t reread it. I was expecting to come in today to 4-5 people voting me due to that. Thanks for not doing so.

For activity concerns - This week I am writing my final paper for class so will be much more active come this weekend and beyond (still only at nights M-Th).

I’m trying to reread the thread now so if you have any other questions, particularly as this is my last appearance before the vote I’m here for another hour or two.