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[Haly]

If I have to kill someone, it will be for a good reason and a good cause.

It's difficult to swallow this when you tried to kill roy N1 on a, what's basically, a whim.

In all fairness, lynching me is not "zero risk" either. You give the mafia and other unaligned players another night to do whatever they want, while losing a confirmed neutral role that might be of use, e.g. by testing Ezzi's claim.

Seath's been quiet this day actually. As long as he's not being disruptive like he was on day 2 there isn't a need to lynch him, which was the primary motivator. Not the fact that he's Conway or whatever.

 

[El Topo]

It's difficult to swallow this when you tried to kill roy N1 on a, what's basically, a whim.

It's not like I have a choice anymore.

Seath's been quiet this day actually. As long as he's not being disruptive like he was on day 2 there isn't a need to lynch him, which was the primary motivator. Not the fact that he's Conway or whatever.

I'm sorry, but I don't find it very comforting that your reaction to "Hey, there's a guy that admitted to lying about his role" is "He's laying low, so who cares".

 

[Haly]

It's a matter of priorities. You have, by your own admission, a gun. What does Seath have? I don't want to get tangled up in his mess on Day 3 after it took so much of Day 2 for... pretty much 0 payoff except everyone being suspicious of Seath (which they kind of were anyway)

He's, supposedly, like you. Just playing for funsies and giggles.

Except he can't kill.

 

[Kevyt]

Can we refrain from calling one another idiots and random cursing?

Doesn't really add much to the game.

Based Ouro, you agree right?

 

[Ourobolus]

Can we refrain from calling one another idiots and random cursing?

Doesn't really add much to the game.

Based Ouro, you agree right?

Yes, please try to keep it civil. Let's not have a room full of Darryls here.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

>:C

TOPOPO! Why wouldn't you saaaaaaaaaaay what your camera found out on N2 if you really did use it on Roy? WHY


just how can you use camera on someone that died and not find any useful information HOW

And if you did find something, why wont you share that information already. I mean I would have supplied it earlier if I had such information. what kind of camera 'looks at' someone and.... not see shit. who killed our royroy? :O did you not take the lens cover off or something :x



cabbeh XD you crack me up all the time <3

Mallory, how can you say you are a man of power when you keep hitting star for pounds :>

 

[cabot]

I'm actually quite offended, I never actually used the word idiot. I was incredibly careful with direct insult words.

 

[El Topo]

Yeah, I think personally attacking people in such a way is uncalled for. If I ever did that, I apologize, but I usually try to keep my criticism and frustration within reasonable boundaries.

 

[cabot]

Can we have a mafia game consisting only of darryls?

 

[El Topo]

Can we have a mafia game consisting only of darryls?

Can we have a mafia game consisting only of Blargs?

 

[cabot]

Can we have a mafia game consisting only of Blargs?

Is too much of one thing a bad thing?

No. Of course it isn't

 

[Ourobolus]

Can we have a mafia game consisting only of Blargs?

GAF already went down once because he was lynched, you want that to happen every four days?

 

[Sorian]

GAF already went down once because he was lynched, you want that to happen every four days?

Actually, I believe GAF went down because the universe shifted and two souls were displaced.

Carry on.

 

[Haly]

Shhh you don't exist.

 

[Ourobolus]

That's weird, the thread just jumped from post 2212 to 2214. Odd.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Yes, please try to keep it civil. Let's not have a room full of Darryls here.

You never go full Darryl

 

[Ourobolus]

Sorry, I was cleaning some of the blood up with what I thought was a sanitary napkin...actually I think it is a sanitary napkin, but it seems roytheone left a final message:

Well, I guess it is in you guys' (and gal, hello YesNOnoNOYes!) hands now! But please, for the love of god, TAKE BETTER CARE OF OUR POWER ROLES! Oh, and kristoffer, I really hope I will get a chance to play with you in the future! Good luck to everybody, except the KGB scum!

 

[cabot]

Hey, wait a minute, that seems like a dig at us for the overnight deaths!

ADAMANT DENIAL: roytheone

 

[El Topo]

If I knew who killed royroy, rest assured it would've been the first thing for me to say, YNNNY.

 

[Haly]

What did you get from the gadget? Does the kill override the gadget (and do you still have it) or did you get something else?

 

[El Topo]

What did you get from the gadget? Does the kill override the gadget (and do you still have it) or did you get something else?

In case of roytheone I got a PM on who he protected. I don't have the lipstick anymore.

 

[Haly]

Er, you mean the... camera?

 

[Spoiled Milk]

...if you used only the camera, why would you have lost your camera?

 

[Spoiled Milk]

I mean mascara.

 

[El Topo]

Mascara isn't lipstick.

Mascara Stun Gun, Lipstick Spy Camera.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

That level of detail makes me trust you a little more.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Volunteer

Don't like the mission plan.

Obstructionist. Deceiver. Snake.

 

[Haly]

Opposite reaction, tbh. This should've been part of his initial claim. I don't get the point of trickling details over time.

A proper town claim is direct, upfront, gives all details anyone could reasonably ask for and leave no room for guesswork or vagueries. El Topo didn't even give a reason for leaving out roy's supposed target. Not that I want it to be revealed at this juncture but...

When you're town, and you have a role, you internalize that role and reflexively keep track of everything about it. If questioned, you can bring it up instantly. By giving up details only under duress, or when you make a mistake in terminology, the impression is one of improvisation.

Basically, it doesn't feel natural.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

If I knew who killed royroy, rest assured it would've been the first thing for me to say, YNNNY.

Well you aren't the most forthcoming person topopo~

But thankie for elaboration and details

So next question... Why would you try to use your one-time-use-only gun before you ascertain your target? I don't quite get the thinking here... :3

If I has an assigned target, like the 'Cyborg' ... And my gun is single use, I'd probably wait and see and try to find out more about my fellow players instead of trying to use my gun on N1.

And you were consistently suspicious of Roy on D1 and D2 but you chose the gun instead of the camera first???

 

[Haly]

This is the very first time he mentioned lipstick as well. His initial claim was:

Gun/Camera/Mascara

Gun=Kill, Camera=Track, Mascara = Block

Gun and mascara are left, YNNNY.

And if I'm going deep into flavor, his role pm would be something like:

You are Cate Fox

You are aligned with no one.

You're on a mission from <blah blah> to eliminate a killer cyborg that's been interfering with <blah blah>'s operations. Your superiors have reason to believe he's infiltrated ISIS, and have sent you to eliminate him. To aid you, you've been given three one-use gadgets: a <Gun?>, a Mascara Stun Gun, and a Lipstick Spy Camera.

Each night you may blah blah blah.

You win when you kill the cyborg.

You see? It doesn't scan. For simplicity's sake I would've given him three distinct options (gun, camera, mascara) which are difficult to mix up. I wouldn't have a "Gun of Killing", a "Mascara Stun Gun" and "Lipstick Spy Camera", and then make the commands: GUN, MASCARA, CAMERA, which is what he seems to have internalized before his mixup.

Either Ouro is very sloppy at writing flavor PMs or Topo's making it up.

 

[Haly]

I mean it's a very simple test, really.

El Topo: What is the flavor name of your gun?

 

[El Topo]

I don't quite get your complaint, Haly. Why do you think I called them gadgets in the first place?

 

[Spoiled Milk]

He never said the command was CAMERA.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

I mean it's a very simple test, really.

El Topo: What is the flavor name of your gun?

Tampon Assault Rifle

 

[Ourobolus]

You guys are weird.

 

[El Topo]

The gun is called gun. Sorry.

I'm also not sure where you ever got the idea that the commands were CAMERA/MASCARA/GUN, nor do I get how revealing who roy protected is helping town.

The commands are exactly what you think they are: TRACK/BLOCK/KILL.

 

[Haly]

If this turns out to be real, I'm going to lodge a complaint with Karkador for shitty ass flavor writing.

 

[El Topo]

You guys are weird.

Anyone that hasn't played NOLF is weird. You and me Ouro, we're the only normal ones out there.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

I'm sorry that the gun is not named Excalibur.

 

[cabot]

I think Haly's point is you're making a decision to hide aspects of information following probing. By his logic, if you were town you'd be completely up front, obviously you didn't have to mention the target's name but the fact you knew the target would have been something worth saying up front.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

The gun is called gun. Sorry.

I'm also not sure where you ever got the idea that the commands were CAMERA/MASCARA/GUN, nor do I get how revealing who roy protected is helping town.

The commands are exactly what you think they are: TRACK/BLOCK/KILL.

So the gun is just the gun but the camera is lipstick spy camera and the mascara is mascara stun gun?

Seems.... Off.

* perplexed eyes at you *

 

[cabot]

Pro-town* not town, obviously!

 

[Spoiled Milk]

So the gun is just the gun but the camera is lipstick spy camera and the mascara is mascara stun gun?

Seems.... Off.

* perplexed eyes at you *

You are Sterling Archer but the Honeypot is just the Honeypot?

 

[cabot]

You are Sterling Archer but the Honeypot is just the Honeypot?

We're using honeypot because there could be a few characters that fit that role.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

You are Sterling Archer but the Honeypot is just the Honeypot?

I got confused by the avatars. Sorry yesno!

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

You are Sterling Archer but the Honeypot is just the Honeypot?

I'm Batman. Though.

 

[cabot]

I'm Batman. Though.

You''re my snootikins awww

Spoiler

I feel physically sick

 

[Haly]

Perhaps it's my obsessiveness talking, but do you, Ouro, really not see any problem with:

"You have 3 gadgets! One is a normal gun hidden in your panties. One is a stun gun hidden in your mascara. One is a tracking dart gun hidden in your lipstick."

Like, why would you muddy the players' mental framework like that? It's shoddy design. Of course, El Topo's claim only has 2 guns out of 3 gadgets but ideally, each gadget would be conceptually unique.

I think Haly's point is you're making a decision to hide aspects of information following probing. By his logic, if you were town you'd be completely up front, obviously you didn't have to mention the target's name but the fact you knew the target would have been something worth saying up front.

Yeah, this too. I got sidetracked by the flavor digression but it's still a claim that looks more improvised than internalized.

 

[Ourobolus]

You know I'm not going to comment on people's roles, Haly.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

I got confused by the avatars. Sorry yesno!

No forgive. Everlasting scorn.




I also still needs some explanation on the N1 use of the gun... It's so reckless and not very pro-town... Not to mention full of complete disregard of the role's supposed winning objective.