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Archer [Mafia] |OT| Wait, I Had Something For This
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Spoiled Milk
Banned
I am convinced by Haly, Cabbeh, and YnNnY. I am willing to lynch El Topo. But I would rather do it tomorrow, after we have put El Topo on a mission with EZ, because
1) his bulletproof claim in general
2) his vitriolic reaction to my attempt to test it
3) his preference to just kill El Topo now instead of isolating him in a room with Ezekel to verify his bulletproof claim (and then give more, but not absolute, credence to his alignment)
are all making me very nervous, and I will never trust him until he lets us verify it or tells us who he actually is, because he is obviously not bulletproof.
1) his bulletproof claim in general
2) his vitriolic reaction to my attempt to test it
3) his preference to just kill El Topo now instead of isolating him in a room with Ezekel to verify his bulletproof claim (and then give more, but not absolute, credence to his alignment)
are all making me very nervous, and I will never trust him until he lets us verify it or tells us who he actually is, because he is obviously not bulletproof.
theres no reason for Topo not to just stir some shit and shoot another person on the mission
one day I'll speak real good english honest!
And I doubt you'll get the mission runners to agree with it, since they all (except ER), stand to lose something by either being on the mission (killed by a uncooperative Topo) or off of it (killed by KGB when they see an opening).
I'd scrap it for now and just lynch Topo, or some inactive.
I'd scrap it for now and just lynch Topo, or some inactive.
Eh, your first point for going on them makes sense, but from what you have all said it seems there's not much useful information in the mission chats.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Staying on the volunteer list is bad for ISIS. EZ and Darryl's behavior is so suspect it hurts.
Why would Topo kill someone else if he is in the spotlight? For funsies? I don't believe it.
This is a guy who claimed triple one-shot SK/Tracker/Roleblocker on Day 3, by tying himself up in a "tell all!" on Day 2 and claimed he used his one shot kill on a target out of the blue on Day 1.
Funsies is the only way I can rationalize this behavior, really.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
If you vote for him, I'll vote for him.
But deep down, Haly, I know you don't trust Ezekel after this. Listen to that voice.
I still want Possum to respond first. After that, probably Topo.
I make no promises on Ezekel but I'm thinking about it. Really, I just wish he'd play the same town game I'm familiar with rather than this new Archer gif spam Ezekel.
I make no promises on Ezekel but I'm thinking about it. Really, I just wish he'd play the same town game I'm familiar with rather than this new Archer gif spam Ezekel.
EzekelRAGE
Member
1 - I'm still of the mind that only KGB would be so worried about my BP claim this much.
2 - Think vitriolic is too strong of a word, but meh.
3 - As we have covered, me surviving still doesn't say anything about my alignment.
Also, your thoughts on this?
Also on ET
He specifically says this:
Not that he can still have fun and be used by town or anything like that, but he can't win if he dies today in a lynch. This is after he agreed to take a shot at me, thus wasting his only way to kill. But he already said his win condition has to do with getting rid (I'm reading as killing) of the Cyborg.
So even if he did the test, he wouldnt be able to win. Maybe he is actually the HP? Would make more sense to why he would be so willing to do Kris' theory, knowing he can kill me. If he is HP maybe he made up the role about Cate Archer.
Vote: El Topo
I haven't even posted an Archer gif this day phase.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Essentially what you've told me is that he is definitely not KGB, and that once he wastes his kill on you, he will be as dangerous to us as an ordinary drone. We need all the drones we can get.
You are wrong. Kill conditions means "get lynched". It doesn't matter how the target dies.
He is honeypot, now? Ha! Hahahahahhahahahahahah!
Spoiled Milk
Banned
He hasn't been running a campaign against Ez. He hasn't been trying to get on the mission and in fact he hasn't volunteered yet.
I think Ez is reaching.
He did volunteer and then unvolunteer after pressure was applied. He also wouldnt have had much time for a campaign since i was on his ass D2.
I was right there behind you in some horrifying human centipede like ass eating session.
Oh, shit. Phrasing!
Spoiled Milk
Banned
And send one to QuestionBro, too.
He's on the cusp - if he doesn't show up by tomorrow I will.
He already knew Ezekel was Archer by then, but he still volunteered. Doesn't add up. If he is the Honeypot, why is he putting himself at risk now (with the claim) for a long shot at getting Ezekel than taking the pressure on Day 2 and killing Ezekel in one fell swoop?
What changed in the night to give him balls of steel?
What changed in the night to give him balls of steel?
EzekelRAGE
Member
Did I miss a post where he stated he can win if he lynches a Cyborg?
Do you have any proof that states otherwise? He claimed to he would reveal on Day 3, but asked for a little more time because he didn't think he would survive N2. So he didn't even bother to come up with a post revealing himself. Then when he does reveal it couldve been something he just cooked up in no time.Even when I claimed there was a HP in this game, you came at me with this
When ET mentioned the camera is the stun gun and lipstic is track or w/e you responded with:
The same reason you used to try to say I'm lying about the HP could be used for ET's argument about what each gadget does/If they even exist. You also seem to go out of your way to try and defend him.
Why havent you been as critical of ET's roleclaim as you have been of mine? I think this is the only real time you have come after his claim:
Spoiled Milk
Banned
He said he had a target. Getting someone lynched is a way to kill a target.
Russell's Teapot. You cannot make up a Honeypot role and force me to prove that your scapegoat is not the boogeyman you have invented.
I am not defending ET anymore. I want to at least see if he can kill, and if he can kill you. And then I will probably vote to lynch him.
Because he isn't claiming to be ISIS.
It's okay, though, Ezekel. This entire exchange between us has told me everything I need to know.
VOTE: El Topo
I will fuck over all your shitty anti-town plans.
All these long posts, my god. I'm throwing up my feelings on some ongoing points of discussion, all I can do from mobile right now.
1) The El Topo information trickle seems suspect to me, especially with the lipstick suddenly being thrown into the mix. Mascara always seemed strange to me but Kristoff suggested it may be role blocking (alluded to prostitutes in a standard theme I believe?). How many of us assumed mascara was roll block? Stun gun suggests that to me far more blatantly. Could El Topo have decided to link mascara to role blocking by calling it a stun gun after seeing Kristoffs post. Just makes him seem suspicious to me and as he is claiming neutral I don't see what we lose by lynching him.
2) Kristoffs plan involving ER and ET. When I first read it, or rather once Kris has explained the whole thing with ET shooting ER, I was very much on board and it seemed pretty clever. But as we kept going I'm not sure. Thing is the plan won't go ahead anyway as Daryll seems unwilling to give up his back up slot so it feels like a moot point now.
3) I can get behind a Septimus lynch, I just can't help but feel he is starting to purposely muddy the waters after the inverse Kreiger mistake. I mean that's been at least one misunderstanding per day now.
1) The El Topo information trickle seems suspect to me, especially with the lipstick suddenly being thrown into the mix. Mascara always seemed strange to me but Kristoff suggested it may be role blocking (alluded to prostitutes in a standard theme I believe?). How many of us assumed mascara was roll block? Stun gun suggests that to me far more blatantly. Could El Topo have decided to link mascara to role blocking by calling it a stun gun after seeing Kristoffs post. Just makes him seem suspicious to me and as he is claiming neutral I don't see what we lose by lynching him.
2) Kristoffs plan involving ER and ET. When I first read it, or rather once Kris has explained the whole thing with ET shooting ER, I was very much on board and it seemed pretty clever. But as we kept going I'm not sure. Thing is the plan won't go ahead anyway as Daryll seems unwilling to give up his back up slot so it feels like a moot point now.
3) I can get behind a Septimus lynch, I just can't help but feel he is starting to purposely muddy the waters after the inverse Kreiger mistake. I mean that's been at least one misunderstanding per day now.
EzekelRAGE
Member
That doesn't necessarilly means he wins if he happens to be on a vote to lynch them eihther.
I mentioned about why he would waste his win condition here
He responds with
He doesn't mention anything about another way of winning if he can't kill the cyborg. The last sentence can be read as him not telling his true win condition.
So you think he is now a Lyncher(w/e the role is that must lynch a person), Tracker, Vigilante, and Prostitute?
So after he tests your theory you are willing to vote him out? You posted earlier that he could be useful "even if he was a drone". You made the argument earlier that if he can shoot me, he can be useful because that someone proves he may have the other gadgets.
You aren't being critical of his claims because he claimed third party? That makes NO sense at all. At least you admitted you dont care about whether ET is lying or not.
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squidyj
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YesNOnoNOYes
cabbeh
EzekelRAGE
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Darryl
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Enker
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Haly
Darryl (1)
Septimus Prime
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squidyj
10 votes are needed for majority today.
EzekelRAGE
Member
Voting - TheGoddamn, Arkos, QB,AP, Maz are the ones who havent voted yet i think? I just did a quick skim
Going more on this. You really used alignment in your argument, so why use it now? Why use it an excuse to NOT look at someone more closely. That post makes it seem like you looked more closely at me because I claimed ISIS which was never really apart of your argument.
Going more on this. You really used alignment in your argument, so why use it now? Why use it an excuse to NOT look at someone more closely. That post makes it seem like you looked more closely at me because I claimed ISIS which was never really apart of your argument.
Yeah, buddy. Nothing anti-town about your behaviour.
It's actually a final reveal and a goodbye (from this season of Gafia).
This is GAF after all.
1)
Obviously Cate Archer is not my real role. I'm pretty sure I mentioned earlier that I created cover roles before the game started and this is one of them. I thought that if I had put so much time into creating all these covers, I might as well have some fun.
By the way, thanks for shitting all over my work, Haly. Have you seen the guns they use in NOLF? I think claiming that the flavor text said "Shepard Arms P38 9mm Pistol" was even less believable. Maybe I should've gone with Pistol, eh.
The imaginary win condition? Well, I had actually attempted to hint that it might be more complex ("All that's left...") and I had entertained the thought that maybe some players don't start off as the Cyborg, so it would've been more difficult. I decided to not pursue it though once I realized that you guys were intent of lynching me. I had also originally entertained mission-related conditions or having to kill multiple roles, but very little would have really worked for NOLF and I didn't feel like going completely overboard.
2)
My real role is Robin Hood, the Archer. No second life, no immunity. Three arrows, all have to kill their target for me to win. If that doesn't work, I have to survive until the end. I don't have to kill during the night.
3)
First night I targeted roytheone, but nothing happened and I kept my arrow. The second night I targeted him again, this time successfully. I'm somewhat sorry about that roy, but then again you were the backup for the doctor, which kinda would have went against my role, so it was actually a bit lucky. Why roy? Nothing personal, seems like a wonderful guy. In all honesty, well...Palmer claimed I had forgotten about him. Also I didn't want to kill any new or inactive player and other reasonable targets were on a mission.
4)
Well, I think there's more to say, e.g. regarding the strategies, suspects and plenty of other things, but before I come up with some really long post, an intermission: Any questions?
Spoiled Milk
Banned
lol
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Yeah, where'd you get that role, the Dollar Tree?
Well this role certainly points to me being right about Topo killing roytheone, so I obviously approve of that.
States he made up multiple covers, then reveals another out-of-show character.
I'm actually Basil, The Great Mouse Detective, I have an affinity for cheese but also solving crimes.
TOBEY: El Topo
States he made up multiple covers, then reveals another out-of-show character.
I'm actually Basil, The Great Mouse Detective, I have an affinity for cheese but also solving crimes.
TOBEY: El Topo
No food or drink allowed in ISIS headquarters. Scum?
Spoiled Milk
Banned
Now that we have our serial killer, I am going to reveal my own role.
